The Ultimate Keto Food List for 1st 2 Weeks
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EbonyDahlia wrote: »Do people not get gout on this kind of diet? I would seriously fear eating the foods described for more than two days in a row due to gout concerns. I do know that cutting out sugars helps gout also so maybe the LC would offset all the uric acid production eating like that?
Fructose is now thought to be the problem for those with gout. Meat is not so bad. Sort of like how eating cholesterol does not raise cholesterol, the same is true for uric acid. I believe. My husband is going lower in carbs to treat gout. So far so good.
I do think fructose is a big player but I'm pretty convinced also that if I had a meat glut and I was LC that I would still have a major gout attack. I haven't paid attention to be 100% sure but I think that would be the case. I guess I could experiment and find out!
You realise this is a low carb group, right? If it's not for you perhaps there are other groups that would be better. I've been 4 years keto and I've never had gout, or any other issues eating that way. In fact a lot of the issues I did have (pre-diabetes, joint inflammation, migraines, anxiety) are pretty much gone.
OP why are you looking for foods for 2 weeks only? Keto is not Atkins, you don't generally re-introduce the carbs back into your diet. There is no "induction".
My defense of the OP is when making such a big change, finding the foods to start with is challenging. By the time you get a couple weeks in, the food in your house has turned over such that you are now used to eating the right foods and thoughts like "what can I throw in with this pasta that is quick for dinner" are not at the top of your mind.
Getting started is the hardest part. If you don't do it right, or if you have a real sugar addiction, those first few days can really suck. Being prepared to make it through the first 2 weeks without much thought could be the difference between making it long term and washing out after 3 days.6 -
I'm not sure if the question was for me (JFMP), but I was looking for a consolidated list/cut thru the bs of the BEST foods for a keto diet with specifics. The "2 weeks" was more along the lines of "if you were stuck on an island" type of thing. I want to get the start of this done correctly because I have read that people mess this up quite a bit in the beginning.2
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Ahh right. Just thought you might be confused with atkins.
The first part of my comment was for gout man who said how can anyone eat lots of meat. Just curious why he was here if he didn't like low carb.0 -
EbonyDahlia wrote: »gout man
The worst superhero of them all7 -
I know this is a LC group. I'm interested in it some so I'm asking questions. I'm not trying to discourage anyone but there are some realities doing this that I would have to face also. I do IF which is zero carb when IFing! Also I think a person could be LC and not eat a lot of meat if they wanted to but that might not be easy. I like meat, it doesn't like me!2
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EbonyDahlia wrote: »gout man
The worst superhero of them all
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I would add peanuts, weiners, and quest bars as staples of mine
Quest bars are awesome but in the beginning they can be a crutch. Definitely a better bad choice, lower carb and junk than most other bars. But they are a sometimes food, like being one or 2 to your deserted island, along with lots of meats, fats, and green veggies.
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I know this is a LC group. I'm interested in it some so I'm asking questions. I'm not trying to discourage anyone but there are some realities doing this that I would have to face also. I do IF which is zero carb when IFing! Also I think a person could be LC and not eat a lot of meat if they wanted to but that might not be easy. I like meat, it doesn't like me!
Everyone has their own tolerance of carbs. If everyone ate basically paleo type diet or close to it from birth, they would be around half the carbs of the SAD and be cutting out the most dangerous ones (added sugar, grains and all processed carbage) as well as the harmful veggie oils. Then, most would not need to go lower carb than that ever. Unfortunately, the SAD will eventually damage the metabolism of most people and they will need to cut further.
I know there are vegetarians and near vegetarians in this group. It can be difficult to get to keto levels as a vegetarian (almost have to love eggs) and almost impossible as a vegan, however being low(er) carb and avoiding the carbage is quite reasonable to do without meat.
The great thing about this group is the supportive nature and the fact we don't all expect everyone to do things exactly the same way. Many of us will offer advice and resources, but everyone has to do their own fine tuning to see what works for them.
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I know this is a LC group. I'm interested in it some so I'm asking questions. I'm not trying to discourage anyone but there are some realities doing this that I would have to face also. I do IF which is zero carb when IFing! Also I think a person could be LC and not eat a lot of meat if they wanted to but that might not be easy. I like meat, it doesn't like me!
Not sure of the reason for your question other than your reference to gout in another post. If your interest is getting sufficient protein while eating low carb but not eating large amounts of meat and fish, perhaps cottage cheese, plain Greek yogurt, regular cheese and eggs might help? Granted there are carbs in the aforementioned but someone eating a higher amount of carbs than keto levels could fit the carbs in without too much trouble.1 -
I know this is a LC group. I'm interested in it some so I'm asking questions. I'm not trying to discourage anyone but there are some realities doing this that I would have to face also. I do IF which is zero carb when IFing! Also I think a person could be LC and not eat a lot of meat if they wanted to but that might not be easy. I like meat, it doesn't like me!
You might be interested in learning about what a lot of people call "Slow carb" eating. I think it's gained more popularity lately but basically you focus on whole foods, and eliminate processed carbohydrates and so called "white" carbohydrates (rice, potatoes etc) from your diet. It's very easy to be "slow carb" while being vegetarian.1 -
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I know this is a LC group. I'm interested in it some so I'm asking questions. I'm not trying to discourage anyone but there are some realities doing this that I would have to face also. I do IF which is zero carb when IFing! Also I think a person could be LC and not eat a lot of meat if they wanted to but that might not be easy. I like meat, it doesn't like me!
You might be interested in learning about what a lot of people call "Slow carb" eating. I think it's gained more popularity lately but basically you focus on whole foods, and eliminate processed carbohydrates and so called "white" carbohydrates (rice, potatoes etc) from your diet. It's very easy to be "slow carb" while being vegetarian.
I'm trying to do this or something like it. I still allow grains but try to only eat whole grains.0 -
EbonyDahlia wrote: »Do people not get gout on this kind of diet? I would seriously fear eating the foods described for more than two days in a row due to gout concerns. I do know that cutting out sugars helps gout also so maybe the LC would offset all the uric acid production eating like that?
Fructose is now thought to be the problem for those with gout. Meat is not so bad. Sort of like how eating cholesterol does not raise cholesterol, the same is true for uric acid. I believe. My husband is going lower in carbs to treat gout. So far so good.
I do think fructose is a big player but I'm pretty convinced also that if I had a meat glut and I was LC that I would still have a major gout attack. I haven't paid attention to be 100% sure but I think that would be the case. I guess I could experiment and find out!
You realise this is a low carb group, right? If it's not for you perhaps there are other groups that would be better. I've been 4 years keto and I've never had gout, or any other issues eating that way. In fact a lot of the issues I did have (pre-diabetes, joint inflammation, migraines, anxiety) are pretty much gone.
OP why are you looking for foods for 2 weeks only? Keto is not Atkins, you don't generally re-introduce the carbs back into your diet. There is no "induction".
Congrats on the 1000+ days with better health! Not that many Millennium Club members..... yet.
FYI, the new Atkins is not like the old Atkins - it's meant to be permanent, and it's Keto to the core! (Phinney Volek & Westman, New Atkins for a New You)0 -
FWIW-I achieved my weight loss via an approach that was, in part, low cholesterol so ate a lot of legumes which are high in protein (but also high in carbs). I'm one of "those people" who believes most (not all) people can eat whatever they want and still lose weight if they keep calories in line. That said, I also contend it is not just about weight loss. It is also about health and therefore each make their food choices accordingly.
Though I don't currently eat grains, whole or otherwise, I did and I lost 60 pounds. I seem to have no food sensitivities/allergies/etc. Technically I think quinoa is a seed but I ate a good bit of it for protein content. I'll duck and hide now. 1 -
FWIW-I achieved my weight loss via an approach that was, in part, low cholesterol so ate a lot of legumes which are high in protein (but also high in carbs). I'm one of "those people" who believes most (not all) people can eat whatever they want and still lose weight if they keep calories in line. That said, I also contend it is not just about weight loss. It is also about health and therefore each make their food choices accordingly.
Though I don't currently eat grains, whole or otherwise, I did and I lost 60 pounds. I seem to have no food sensitivities/allergies/etc. Technically I think quinoa is a seed but I ate a good bit of it for protein content. I'll duck and hide now.
No need to duck and hide. We all have differences. Some are genetic from birth and some are based on how we treated our bodies before taking our health seriously, so what one can tolerate is not the same as someone else.
I think the only things that are universal is no one does better eating added sugar, processed carbs (i.e. most of what is in the center of the grocery store) or highly processed oils (i.e. vegetable oils like corn, safflower, soybean, etc.). Just removing that stuff will necessarily lower the carb intake of nearly anyone from that of the SAD.3 -
cstehansen wrote: »FWIW-I achieved my weight loss via an approach that was, in part, low cholesterol so ate a lot of legumes which are high in protein (but also high in carbs). I'm one of "those people" who believes most (not all) people can eat whatever they want and still lose weight if they keep calories in line. That said, I also contend it is not just about weight loss. It is also about health and therefore each make their food choices accordingly.
Though I don't currently eat grains, whole or otherwise, I did and I lost 60 pounds. I seem to have no food sensitivities/allergies/etc. Technically I think quinoa is a seed but I ate a good bit of it for protein content. I'll duck and hide now.
No need to duck and hide. We all have differences. Some are genetic from birth and some are based on how we treated our bodies before taking our health seriously, so what one can tolerate is not the same as someone else.
I think the only things that are universal is no one does better eating added sugar, processed carbs (i.e. most of what is in the center of the grocery store) or highly processed oils (i.e. vegetable oils like corn, safflower, soybean, etc.). Just removing that stuff will necessarily lower the carb intake of nearly anyone from that of the SAD.
Would you also include ditching processed animal foods and those from indoor, grain-fed animal in favor of pastured, outdoor animal sources?0 -
I think anything with preservatives in it, like a lot of processes meats have, will wreck the gut biom. We are fortunate to have a lot of elk and deer to eat.0
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I have the luxury of having a dear husband who has a part-time retirement fun job with a company that goes to the coast a couple times a week for fish from local fishermen to supply farm to table restaurants and locals at the farmers market/s so we eat fresh seafood a few times a week at a reasonable price. I've not eaten venison for many years. My Mom would can it and it was delicious. Straight out of the jar with yellow mustard.
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cstehansen wrote: »FWIW-I achieved my weight loss via an approach that was, in part, low cholesterol so ate a lot of legumes which are high in protein (but also high in carbs). I'm one of "those people" who believes most (not all) people can eat whatever they want and still lose weight if they keep calories in line. That said, I also contend it is not just about weight loss. It is also about health and therefore each make their food choices accordingly.
Though I don't currently eat grains, whole or otherwise, I did and I lost 60 pounds. I seem to have no food sensitivities/allergies/etc. Technically I think quinoa is a seed but I ate a good bit of it for protein content. I'll duck and hide now.
No need to duck and hide. We all have differences. Some are genetic from birth and some are based on how we treated our bodies before taking our health seriously, so what one can tolerate is not the same as someone else.
I think the only things that are universal is no one does better eating added sugar, processed carbs (i.e. most of what is in the center of the grocery store) or highly processed oils (i.e. vegetable oils like corn, safflower, soybean, etc.). Just removing that stuff will necessarily lower the carb intake of nearly anyone from that of the SAD.
Would you also include ditching processed animal foods and those from indoor, grain-fed animal in favor of pastured, outdoor animal sources?
I have grass fed and finished when the bank account allows for it. My lunches this week are a nice grass fed roast I fixed in the crockpot this weekend.
Unfortunately I am not made of money so I would say 40-50% of my meat is still from less desirable sources. I would however take that over any of the processed carbage out there.1 -
cstehansen wrote: »cstehansen wrote: »FWIW-I achieved my weight loss via an approach that was, in part, low cholesterol so ate a lot of legumes which are high in protein (but also high in carbs). I'm one of "those people" who believes most (not all) people can eat whatever they want and still lose weight if they keep calories in line. That said, I also contend it is not just about weight loss. It is also about health and therefore each make their food choices accordingly.
Though I don't currently eat grains, whole or otherwise, I did and I lost 60 pounds. I seem to have no food sensitivities/allergies/etc. Technically I think quinoa is a seed but I ate a good bit of it for protein content. I'll duck and hide now.
No need to duck and hide. We all have differences. Some are genetic from birth and some are based on how we treated our bodies before taking our health seriously, so what one can tolerate is not the same as someone else.
I think the only things that are universal is no one does better eating added sugar, processed carbs (i.e. most of what is in the center of the grocery store) or highly processed oils (i.e. vegetable oils like corn, safflower, soybean, etc.). Just removing that stuff will necessarily lower the carb intake of nearly anyone from that of the SAD.
Would you also include ditching processed animal foods and those from indoor, grain-fed animal in favor of pastured, outdoor animal sources?
I have grass fed and finished when the bank account allows for it. My lunches this week are a nice grass fed roast I fixed in the crockpot this weekend.
Unfortunately I am not made of money so I would say 40-50% of my meat is still from less desirable sources. I would however take that over any of the processed carbage out there.
I'm with you there!
Give me a cup - make that a bowl - of broken glass, seasoned with ghost peppers and turpentine, over a shot of carbage any day.0 -
@ kpk54
When I lived in California, I would go tuna fishing a couple times a year and we ate a lot of tuna. Man was that good. I sure miss that!2
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