How many calls per day?
eva_letsdance
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Hi, i am doing well on keto, but i am not hungry and i hope i am eating enough to con't weigh loss. I have been loosing 1-2lbs per week. I try to eat at least 1200 calls to loose 2 lbs per week according to mfp. I read in a few posts that others are eating more like 1500 cals and loosing faster. Any advice or comments appreciated!
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don't look to much at the calories, if we are staying within our macros we should be good.
I try and hit my macros and haven't noticed a difference whether I am eating 700 calories or 1700 calories.
A lot of people on Keto don't pay attention to calories. Calories in VS calories out is a myth and as long as we are training our bodies to use our fat storages, we will loose weight1 -
If you're losing weight and you're not going hungry and weight loss is your goal, then don't change anything because it sounds like you're accomplishing that just fine.
Just eat when hungry. Not too often. Only low carb foods. Don't eat if not hungry.
Easy peasy
CICO isn't exactly a myth... it just isn't as black or white as the mainstream would have us believe.
You're not going to lose more by eating more but you may still lose even if you increase calories. But I wouldn't eat when not hungry just for that reason personally.9 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »If you're losing weight and you're not going hungry and weight loss is your goal, then don't change anything because it sounds like you're accomplishing that just fine.
Just eat when hungry. Not too often. Only low carb foods. Don't eat if not hungry.
Easy peasy
CICO isn't exactly a myth... it just isn't as black or white as the mainstream would have us believe.
You're not going to lose more by eating more but you may still lose even if you increase calories. But I wouldn't eat when not hungry just for that reason personally.
Right here! Only thing missing here was a mic drop.5 -
I agree with @Sunny_Bunny_ . My weight loss calories were 1350/day (plus I'd eat back 1/2-2/3 of exercise calories). I'm 5'7" , female, was 39y/o and 151 lbs when I started keto. I lost 8 lbs in the first month and it took me a little over 3 months to lose the 23 lbs I wanted to lose.3
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Thank you for all the feedback!1
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »If you're losing weight and you're not going hungry and weight loss is your goal, then don't change anything because it sounds like you're accomplishing that just fine.
Just eat when hungry. Not too often. Only low carb foods. Don't eat if not hungry.
Easy peasy
CICO isn't exactly a myth... it just isn't as black or white as the mainstream would have us believe.
You're not going to lose more by eating more but you may still lose even if you increase calories. But I wouldn't eat when not hungry just for that reason personally.
I agree with Dr. Fung that CICO while trying to achieve weightloss is a myth, but to each their own research right
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »If you're losing weight and you're not going hungry and weight loss is your goal, then don't change anything because it sounds like you're accomplishing that just fine.
Just eat when hungry. Not too often. Only low carb foods. Don't eat if not hungry.
Easy peasy
CICO isn't exactly a myth... it just isn't as black or white as the mainstream would have us believe.
You're not going to lose more by eating more but you may still lose even if you increase calories. But I wouldn't eat when not hungry just for that reason personally.
Bingo! I agree. If you are not hungry and still losing, you are in a great spot.
I lost a bit faster than expected when I was losing but I think it was one of those times when all of the stars align and the heavens sing... My thyroid meds were great, a low stress time in my life, I was active, and AI issues and arthritis were pretty quiet. It was a perfect. I lost over 2 lbs per week which meant I was in a 1000kcal / day deficit even though I ate about 1500kcal per day.
Then a few months later it all stopped, and even though I was only eating about 500-700 calories more per day I started GAINING weight. Ugh! Stress was up, less sleep, and my thyroid was acting up down. I gained 10 lbs in 6-8 months.
Now I am trying to lose again. I need to go under where I was losing at before though. And I am hungrier.
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Scochrane86 wrote: »don't look to much at the calories, if we are staying within our macros we should be good.
I try and hit my macros and haven't noticed a difference whether I am eating 700 calories or 1700 calories.
A lot of people on Keto don't pay attention to calories. Calories in VS calories out is a myth and as long as we are training our bodies to use our fat storages, we will loose weight
This is not good, or even close to correct, advice. Keto is not magic, if you're eating too many calories you won't lose weight. It's true you should stay within your macros, but macros in grams, not percent. If you hit your macros in grams you are by definition eating your calorie goal.
OP it's true that some people might lose faster than you on more calories, but this doesn't mean you'll lose faster on the same calories. Your calorie goal to lose weight depends on your height, weight, age, gender, activity level etc. This will be totally different to someone else. Increasing your calories will not make you lose weight faster, but it might make it easier to stick to your plan if you are hungry on less calories. 2lbs a week is very aggressive, and you might find it hard to sustain. 1lb a week would allow you to eat a little more, and sustain it long term. But do what you're comfortable with. Just don't be surprised if you start eating more, you start losing less ... that's kinda how it works.3 -
CICO is a myth? Oh my.3
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Scochrane86 wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »If you're losing weight and you're not going hungry and weight loss is your goal, then don't change anything because it sounds like you're accomplishing that just fine.
Just eat when hungry. Not too often. Only low carb foods. Don't eat if not hungry.
Easy peasy
CICO isn't exactly a myth... it just isn't as black or white as the mainstream would have us believe.
You're not going to lose more by eating more but you may still lose even if you increase calories. But I wouldn't eat when not hungry just for that reason personally.
I agree with Dr. Fung that CICO while trying to achieve weightloss is a myth, but to each their own research right
And everyone wonders why I trust Fung about as much as I'd trust a rabid dog to guard chickens.1 -
Point is, if you aren't hungry, you don't need to eat. Right now your body has the extra fuel available in storage, you aren't going to starve. Don't worry, you will have hungry days. Eat more then.3
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »And everyone wonders why I trust Fung about as much as I'd trust a rabid dog to guard chickens.
Well, I guess that if you are as experienced a Medic as he seems to be, and have the same experience and qualifications as he has, and have done as much in-depth research on the matter as he has, and have verifiable data and documented information at your fingertips, done by you, over a similar period, then you're absolutely right to not trust him.
That is of course, your privilege.
So, whatcha got?
(PS: A rabid dog is actually the least likely animal to kill or eat a chicken).
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AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »And everyone wonders why I trust Fung about as much as I'd trust a rabid dog to guard chickens.
Well, I guess that if you are as experienced a Medic as he seems to be, and have the same experience and qualifications as he has, and have done as much in-depth research on the matter as he has, and have verifiable data and documented information at your fingertips, done by you, over a similar period, then you're absolutely right to not trust him.
That is of course, your privilege.
So, whatcha got?
(PS: A rabid dog is actually the least likely animal to kill or eat a chicken).
I have the following: Lyle McDonald, Layne Norton, Alan Aragon, Stephan Gueyenet, Andrew Chappell, Rob Lipsett, Mike Israetel, Melissa Davis, and a whole host of others. All of whom have far more qualifications, have actually proven themselves in the fields of medicine, research, and many in actual physical training (beyond extrapolation of data beyond it's actual meaning). And guess who all of them would call borderline fraudulent.
Believe what you wish, but the man has about as much credibility outside of "true believers" as the Ancient Aliens guy. He reminds me of one of those teenagers who, upon being ignored, just start spouting the most ridiculous things they can think of. He is literally arguing against the only thing in nutrition that is essentially settled science. Many things are up for debate: the effect of calories as a unit of measurement, on the human body, is not one of them.1 -
Thank you again for all your responses.2
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In one of the many YouTube videos with links posted here, there is one I saw that had overlapping circles in a Venn diagram with "The Fat Hypothesis" (or something) for one and CICO for the other. Both have proponents. Things are complex and I decided to look in the intersection of those two schools for my diet. I mostly keep carbs under 20 and calories under 2000. This works for me, and the HF keeps me from being ravenously hungry 24/7.2
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Generally, I receive about 8 calls a day and make 10. Depends on my schedule though. 6
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Scochrane86 wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »If you're losing weight and you're not going hungry and weight loss is your goal, then don't change anything because it sounds like you're accomplishing that just fine.
Just eat when hungry. Not too often. Only low carb foods. Don't eat if not hungry.
Easy peasy
CICO isn't exactly a myth... it just isn't as black or white as the mainstream would have us believe.
You're not going to lose more by eating more but you may still lose even if you increase calories. But I wouldn't eat when not hungry just for that reason personally.
I agree with Dr. Fung that CICO while trying to achieve weightloss is a myth, but to each their own research right
This is my first time in this group and I already love it.
1) Dr Fung is as uncredible as they come.
2) CICO aligns with the first law of thermodynamics
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Ah man - there is a lurker here that knows it all. I will have to find another forum.1
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there are so many more variables in the human body than in a simple machine5
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Scochrane86 wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »If you're losing weight and you're not going hungry and weight loss is your goal, then don't change anything because it sounds like you're accomplishing that just fine.
Just eat when hungry. Not too often. Only low carb foods. Don't eat if not hungry.
Easy peasy
CICO isn't exactly a myth... it just isn't as black or white as the mainstream would have us believe.
You're not going to lose more by eating more but you may still lose even if you increase calories. But I wouldn't eat when not hungry just for that reason personally.
I agree with Dr. Fung that CICO while trying to achieve weightloss is a myth, but to each their own research right
I'm curious how you gained your extra weight if it was not via eating more than you expended. I'm also curious how you have successfully lost 82 of those pounds if not by eating less than you expend. I'd love to eat more than I do but 3 years of maintaining indicates if I eat too much on an ongoing basis and don't offset it with increased activity, I will gain weight. I have to address my intake. What other options are there?3 -
tcunbeliever wrote: »there are so many more variables in the human body than in a simple machine
Couldn't agree more but my point still stands.1 -
Awesome I just found out that you can "ignore" members. I saw a troller here, who bashed LCHF on another discussion board but was in our group. I ignored and life is good again. This board's policy prohibits me from naming any users in this manner, so I will abide by them.4
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Where's the fun in that?
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It's always pretty obvious when someone is trying to stir things up.
Best to leave them with their apparent boredom6 -
Remember:
debating is cool, but remember to uphold community and group guidelines while doing so.
We are all friends here.
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1) I feel attacked for the first time in this group
2) I have had incredible success with this WOE, following Dr, Fung and trust his research. I am not about to change my mind because some people here have told me im crazy.
3) maybe I should have started my first comment by: what I believe, and what has worked for me.
Thank you all for your unwanted comments.2 -
Scochrane86 wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »If you're losing weight and you're not going hungry and weight loss is your goal, then don't change anything because it sounds like you're accomplishing that just fine.
Just eat when hungry. Not too often. Only low carb foods. Don't eat if not hungry.
Easy peasy
CICO isn't exactly a myth... it just isn't as black or white as the mainstream would have us believe.
You're not going to lose more by eating more but you may still lose even if you increase calories. But I wouldn't eat when not hungry just for that reason personally.
I agree with Dr. Fung that CICO while trying to achieve weightloss is a myth, but to each their own research right
I'm curious how you gained your extra weight if it was not via eating more than you expended. I'm also curious how you have successfully lost 82 of those pounds if not by eating less than you expend. I'd love to eat more than I do but 3 years of maintaining indicates if I eat too much on an ongoing basis and don't offset it with increased activity, I will gain weight. I have to address my intake. What other options are there?
I have lost more weight eating 1700 calories a day than I have ever while eating a 25% deficit.
But I guess my body is working differently than everyone elses.2 -
Scochrane86 wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »If you're losing weight and you're not going hungry and weight loss is your goal, then don't change anything because it sounds like you're accomplishing that just fine.
Just eat when hungry. Not too often. Only low carb foods. Don't eat if not hungry.
Easy peasy
CICO isn't exactly a myth... it just isn't as black or white as the mainstream would have us believe.
You're not going to lose more by eating more but you may still lose even if you increase calories. But I wouldn't eat when not hungry just for that reason personally.
I agree with Dr. Fung that CICO while trying to achieve weightloss is a myth, but to each their own research right
I'm curious how you gained your extra weight if it was not via eating more than you expended. I'm also curious how you have successfully lost 82 of those pounds if not by eating less than you expend. I'd love to eat more than I do but 3 years of maintaining indicates if I eat too much on an ongoing basis and don't offset it with increased activity, I will gain weight. I have to address my intake. What other options are there?
I each much more now than I did before while carrying all that weight, only difference is now I eat the proper foods, and am having great success.
I am sorry for others thinking my advice was terrible, but it really has been workings. I can't believe I came on to this today, after so much positive.1 -
eva_letsdance wrote: »Thank you again for all your responses.
As an old guy doing LCHF for pain management (but weight loss and awesome blood number is a positive side effect) I did a flip on how low to go calorie wise. I ate and ate if hungry but keep the 5% carb 15% protein and 80% fats ratio. I found it very hard to gain weight but possible.
Then I cut back calorie wise to maintain for a while then started cutting calories from at point to lose weight again.
After 2.5 years of LCHF I think in my case to become obese again would require some factor that lead to seriously over eating beyond my now natural state of hunger levels.
You photo indicates you are still young so you have time on your side. I was 63 before I decided to eat for LIFE rather than Death so time was not on my side to get my WOE right.
Best of success. There are many many with awesome advice in this MFP sub group;.0 -
eva_letsdance wrote: »Hi, i am doing well on keto, but i am not hungry and i hope i am eating enough to con't weigh loss. I have been loosing 1-2lbs per week. I try to eat at least 1200 calls to loose 2 lbs per week according to mfp. I read in a few posts that others are eating more like 1500 cals and loosing faster. Any advice or comments appreciated!
To bring it back on track from the side-rail...
If it isn't broken, don't fix it. 1-2lb a week is a safe and healthy rate of loss. Your body is unique and it's only going to lose what it's going to lose. And that means different rates for different people.
As other posters have said, if you start to have a stall or too much hunger, then reevaluate your calorie intake. Using a keto calculator for that can be helpful. Appetite is often a wave, with ebbs a flows. Your appetite may return on some days. It should even out. I personally am a very hungry caterpillar and must watch my calories, because I can pack away a lot of food before I feel full, which leads to weight gain. As long as you stay in a deficit, you should lose weight, baring any medical issues, like insulin resistance or hormonal imbalances, which can make things harder.
But you sound like you are doing fine.
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