Question for the Thyroid Experts Out There

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  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    Wow! If you ate 2500-3000 calories a day as a 50 something year old and didn't gain weight on that amount of calories until 6 months ago, I am highly impressed. Lordy, I'd love to be able to eat that much and not gain. I'm 63 and maintain my goal weight in my sedentary life on about 1500 calories. Were you extremely active and has that activity level dramatically decreased for some reason?

    When did you gain this 20 pounds you mention (in your profile) wanting to lose? Where did you track before or is it a glitch in MFP which indicates your 1st visit was April 29. I've used other trackers too periodically. Atkins and My Net Diary. I prefer MFP.

    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say perhaps you're not tracking accurately or you have something seriously wrong. If your calories were truly 2500-3000 and you didn't gain until 6 months ago and now can't lose on 1300...something is wrong that a fat fast isn't going to correct.


  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Also, if any of those test results were prior to the requirement of you dropping your calories so dramatically, I'd have them rerun. Even if they were just a year old and not before the calorie drop. Obviously something, or a bunch of little somethings, changed... You'll just have to keep digging to figure it out.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Any new news??
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    canadjineh wrote: »
    Any new news??

    Hmmm. Here's a twist, new to me but probably old news to many of you vets - iodine vs. environmental toxins.

    https://youtu.be/9BfyEAFgvmU
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Thanks, @RalfLott, maybe I'll try adding a couple mg to my supplement regimen. I don't have flouridated water (on a well) or get bromide from bread since I am gluten free, and I hate regular iodized salt (tastes gross) although I do eat sea vegetables and my salt is Grey Sea Salt from Ile de Noirmoutier, France.
    What I had read lately was that we get enough in our diet but we are low on selenium which enables uptake of iodine.

    Sigh.... one more pill to add to my daily 26 already. :|
  • Foamroller
    Foamroller Posts: 1,041 Member
    canadjineh wrote: »
    Thanks, @RalfLott, maybe I'll try adding a couple mg to my supplement regimen. I don't have flouridated water (on a well) or get bromide from bread since I am gluten free, and I hate regular iodized salt (tastes gross) although I do eat sea vegetables and my salt is Grey Sea Salt from Ile de Noirmoutier, France.
    What I had read lately was that we get enough in our diet but we are low on selenium which enables uptake of iodine.

    Sigh.... one more pill to add to my daily 26 already. :|

    You don't have to use supplements for selenium or iodine. Thx to @baconslave from a hair loss thread...I eat 2 Brazil nuts for selenium. For iodine I eat japanese roasted seaweed, nori. I know you know, but for the others...don't overdo intake of iodine. The "more is always better"-mentality can be harmful when it comes to micronutrients and hormone balance. If seaweed doesn't do the job...maybe splurge on some oysters now and then ?
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Foamroller wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    Thanks, @RalfLott, maybe I'll try adding a couple mg to my supplement regimen. I don't have flouridated water (on a well) or get bromide from bread since I am gluten free, and I hate regular iodized salt (tastes gross) although I do eat sea vegetables and my salt is Grey Sea Salt from Ile de Noirmoutier, France.
    What I had read lately was that we get enough in our diet but we are low on selenium which enables uptake of iodine.

    Sigh.... one more pill to add to my daily 26 already. :|

    You don't have to use supplements for selenium or iodine. Thx to @baconslave from a hair loss thread...I eat 2 Brazil nuts for selenium. For iodine I eat japanese roasted seaweed, nori. I know you know, but for the others...don't overdo intake of iodine. The "more is always better"-mentality can be harmful when it comes to micronutrients and hormone balance. If seaweed doesn't do the job...maybe splurge on some oysters now and then ?

    Just so happens I've got a bag of Brazil nuts next to a box of seaweed chews where boxes of crackers once dwelled, and I don't buy new furniture (cats}...... Still, is there a downside to adding a kelp pill?
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Brazil nuts are awesome! I've eaten a handful of Brazil Nuts fairly often most of my adult life. I have only been able to drop my thyroid antibodies from 1100 to 400 (so far) since I have been taking extra selenium. That was the only thing that got me results but now I want to improve my ratio of FT3 /FT4 while still continuing to lower antibodies. I have other autoimmune issues so that may play into selenium/iodine absorption in my case, who knows.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Be very careful on Brazil nuts, please, all. The selenium content of them can vary wildly. And by wildly, you could eat one and be near toxicity level, or you could eat 20 and not even get to therapeutic levels. If you're eating them, they should be organic and regularly testing products. The fact is, less than great areas can produce them, and the climate, conditions, pesticides, and dozens of other factors contribute to the selenium content, and even one tree can produce radically different selenium content. Also, I think I've heard that anywhere from 75-95% of the world's population is allergic to Brazil nuts. So I stick to the yeast based forms of selenium. I stopped taking iodine for a while, due to cost, had a bad reaction to a combination formula, but am considering supplementing it again, but want a baseline test again before I do so. I have bookmarked that video to watch later, hopefully...
  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
    I always go with lugol iodine - I'm a fan of topical supplementation!
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Ugh, didn't realize that about the nuts, @KnitOrMiss - luckily I have no nut allergies at all and try to buy organic, raw, unsalted and in season nuts from a local Dried Fruit & Nut importer that I've trusted for 20 yrs.
  • Foamroller
    Foamroller Posts: 1,041 Member
    edited June 2017
    RalfLott wrote: »
    Foamroller wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    Thanks, @RalfLott, maybe I'll try adding a couple mg to my supplement regimen. I don't have flouridated water (on a well) or get bromide from bread since I am gluten free, and I hate regular iodized salt (tastes gross) although I do eat sea vegetables and my salt is Grey Sea Salt from Ile de Noirmoutier, France.
    What I had read lately was that we get enough in our diet but we are low on selenium which enables uptake of iodine.

    Sigh.... one more pill to add to my daily 26 already. :|

    You don't have to use supplements for selenium or iodine. Thx to @baconslave from a hair loss thread...I eat 2 Brazil nuts for selenium. For iodine I eat japanese roasted seaweed, nori. I know you know, but for the others...don't overdo intake of iodine. The "more is always better"-mentality can be harmful when it comes to micronutrients and hormone balance. If seaweed doesn't do the job...maybe splurge on some oysters now and then ?

    Just so happens I've got a bag of Brazil nuts next to a box of seaweed chews where boxes of crackers once dwelled, and I don't buy new furniture (cats}...... Still, is there a downside to adding a kelp pill?

    First look up symptom of iodine "overdosing", so you know what to look for. That goes for any supplement you take in large quantities...

    Try the kelp...but be wary of possible side effects or placebo :)
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Bull kelp makes awesome crispy salty snacks. I have a bag in my cupboards as we speak.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Foamroller wrote: »
    RalfLott wrote: »
    Foamroller wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    Thanks, @RalfLott, maybe I'll try adding a couple mg to my supplement regimen. I don't have flouridated water (on a well) or get bromide from bread since I am gluten free, and I hate regular iodized salt (tastes gross) although I do eat sea vegetables and my salt is Grey Sea Salt from Ile de Noirmoutier, France.
    What I had read lately was that we get enough in our diet but we are low on selenium which enables uptake of iodine.

    Sigh.... one more pill to add to my daily 26 already. :|

    You don't have to use supplements for selenium or iodine. Thx to @baconslave from a hair loss thread...I eat 2 Brazil nuts for selenium. For iodine I eat japanese roasted seaweed, nori. I know you know, but for the others...don't overdo intake of iodine. The "more is always better"-mentality can be harmful when it comes to micronutrients and hormone balance. If seaweed doesn't do the job...maybe splurge on some oysters now and then ?

    Just so happens I've got a bag of Brazil nuts next to a box of seaweed chews where boxes of crackers once dwelled, and I don't buy new furniture (cats}...... Still, is there a downside to adding a kelp pill?

    First look up symptom of iodine "overdosing", so you know what to look for. That goes for any supplement you take in large quantities...

    Try the kelp...but be wary of possible side effects or placebo :)

    Aha! How do I recognize a placebo effect? :o Is it like a snipe or the US Supreme Court's definition of "pornography"? (Or maybe the effective cost/oz. of urine?)

    I'm with @canadjineh in liking kelp. Is it safer if I think of it as food? :blush:
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