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Just seen this website http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/the-truth-about-carbs.aspx .if i was to follower their information then i would be in hospital by now .Before i came of carbs and only kept my intake to around 5%, i was always poorly in my tummy and bowls i suffer with ulcerative colitis, since i have come of all bad carbs i have not had any flare ups and my constipation has gone, All i can say follower what your body says to you.
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I'm afraid I gave it one star. And look at the number of views and the overall rating. I think people have largely made up their own minds it's frankly mostly hogwash.1
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@Sunny_Bunny_ - Want to provide some insight?2
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I couldn't read past the "healthy whole grains and fiber are good for you" BS!
I am definitely in the Listen To Your Body camp. I've had the best gut health I've ever experienced in my life since cutting out all fiber. I've had issues since I was about 8 years old. Had my gall bladder removed when I was 16 due to over 100 stones and have had IBS since long before that. It took about 2 years of gall bladder attacks before they even figured out what was wrong with me since they never in a million years expected someone so young to have gall stones!
Anyway, if you're interested in some reading about fiber, I'd start with these.
https://proteinpower.com/drmike/2006/08/30/is-increased-fiber-intake-really-a-good-thing/
http://highsteaks.com/fiber/
http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/food/fiber/
And I have a PDF of the book The Fiber Menace if you're interested in that.
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Thanks @sunny_bunny_1
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@KnitOrMiss can I just say your new profile pic and haircut is beautiful! Love it!5
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@nikoba - thank you. It's actually a throwback picture from 5 years ago yesterday. I went to get my divorce signed off on by the judge, and I had to rock it and show my ex what he'd given up. LOL I hate my hair that short and having it in my face gets me overheated and nearly triggers panic attacks it is so bad. I nearly always wear it up. But thanks all the same!!
I'm happy to have lost quite a bit of my puffiness in the last 5 years, even if not more weight. 2 -
While we can most certainly survive without sugar, it would be quite difficult to eliminate carbohydrates entirely from your diet. Carbohydrates are the body's main source of energy. In their absence, your body will use protein and fat for energy.
Not really, no it's not, and that's not a bad thing (assuming sufficient protein intake).The Government's healthy eating advice, illustrated by the Eatwell Guide, recommends that just over a third of your diet should be made up of starchy foods, such as potatoes, bread, rice and pasta, and another third should be fruit and vegetables.
Egads! They're trying to kill me!"When people cut out carbs and lose weight, it's not just carbs they're cutting out, they're cutting out the high-calorie ingredients mixed in or eaten with it, such as butter, cheese, cream, sugar and oil," says Sian. "Eating too many calories – whether they are carbs, protein or fat – will contribute to weight gain."
The sour cream I had on my bratwurst and the mayo and cheese on my (bunless) burger today beg to differ...Unless you have a diagnosed health condition such as wheat allergy, wheat sensitivity or coeliac disease, there is little evidence that cutting out wheat and other grains from your diet would benefit your health.
*waves* Hi, not technically diagnosed here to say that you can have issues without a diagnosis. Y'all aren't all-knowing, no matter how much you try to pretend to be.
That article is just painful....10 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Anyway, if you're interested in some reading about fiber, I'd start with these.
https://proteinpower.com/drmike/2006/08/30/is-increased-fiber-intake-really-a-good-thing/
http://highsteaks.com/fiber/
http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/food/fiber/
And I have a PDF of the book The Fiber Menace if you're interested in that.
Many of us do feel better eating more rather than less fiber, and some credible scientists contend that fiber is generally (though not universally) beneficial for gut health......
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Just seen this website http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/the-truth-about-carbs.aspx .if i was to follower their information then i would be in hospital by now .Before i came of carbs and only kept my intake to around 5%, i was always poorly in my tummy and bowls i suffer with ulcerative colitis, since i have come of all bad carbs i have not had any flare ups and my constipation has gone, All i can say follower what your body says to you.
I'm a celiac. I was undiagnosed for over 35 years. Constant constipation to the point that when my BMs improved, I thought it was the runs. I used to focus on fibre sooo much. Fibre 1 cereal (tasted like sticks) with my skim milk. Ate my veggies and lots of whole grain foods. I also took multiple fibre capsules and drank fibre drinks. I did it because it was supposed to help (it didn't) but I didn't stop because I was worried about how it would get worse. LOL
Now? The fewer carbs, and fibre, the better. Carnivore seems to agree with me the most but it isn't how I want to eat forever.
I know there are people out there who do great on lots of grains and low fat, but I am not one of them. I dislike them telling everyone to eat that way in such absolute terms. I doubt lower fat and lots of grains is good for many people beyond their 20's anyways.3 -
Amen. Fiber 1 is Frankenfood in my book.
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I felt strongly enough - as it's a British, National Health Service website - to respond and send a letter.http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/the-truth-about-carbs.aspx
I've rarely been prompted by articles on the internet, to react or respond, but the advice given in the linked article above is both grossly inaccurate and arguably positively dangerous.
There is abundant evidence available to prove that not only do we eat far too many carbs, but that in fact they are superfluous to the point of redundancy.
What matters most is good intake of proteins and fats. Trans fats being at the low end of the amount consumed.
They do NOT give you 'bad' cholesterol - there is no such thing. Human beings makes between
2000 - 3000mg/day on their own.
You really, as a source of health information, truly need to get your facts right. I and countless others are testament to a correct and healthy regimen of high protein, fats and low - or no - carbohydrates.
The whole article is currently the running joke on a health and fitness forum dedicated to LCHP/F adherents.
I have lost 2 stone. My Husband, who WAS a diabetes type 2 sufferer, has lost three, and no longer HAS diabetes. We have both undergone blood tests and health checks, and we are both advised our health - across the board - is excellent and commendable.
Please.
Check your facts.
The above article is total and utter rubbish and needs serious review. If not total deletion.5 -
@AlexandraCarlyle it also helps if you provide links to legit published studies in science journals, too.1
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I'm waiting for them to come back to me with some kind of a response. If it's a disclaimer, it will be like blowing at a gale.
If on the other hand, they surprise me and seek clarification, I will be happy to enter into correspondence with them.
Being the NHS, I suspect - and expect - the former.
The NHS thrives on self-justification and excuses.
Given that it's haemorrhaging money faster than any surgeon could staunch the flow, they're more interested in profit than patients.0 -
Churchill might (accurately) have described this tiresome NHS hatchet job as a türd wrapped in vomit inside an enema....
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I would say that's pretty accurate. If a little nauseating as a mental image.0
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The EatWell article is typical standard healthy food talk. It's right about sugars. It's right that carbs include vegetables etc. It's a bit shallow with low-glycemic eating. It mindlessly falls into track 30% complex carbs. It ignores current studies about benefits of fats. It is information what I would expect to find in a store-rack magazine.
Until eating far few carbs and eating more fats, becomes mainstream... thank goodness for MFP LCHF and related Groups, where we share new scientific studies and podcasts of new findings.
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Regarding fiber: I always read the articles with interest and with the thought I might learn something new. I've pretty much determined I'll eat what I eat believing it is best for me and keep an open mind. I have no need (that I am aware of) to not eat fiber. I like fiber containing foods and think they/fiber offer some value to my health.
I am fortunately able to eat either a low fiber diet or a high fiber diet with no observable difference. If ever that changes and it very well may, I am hopeful there will be a remedy available to fix the problem versus restrict foods.
I am aware restriction might be the only option available to some folks. I've not heavily researched gut biomes but my personal research leans towards "good" bacteria thriving on fiber so I'll continue eating fiber to keep the thrive alive...mostly because nothing seems "broken" regarding my current ways.
I concur with @nvmomketo regarding "telling everyone to eat that way in such absolute terms". It gets rather "old". Both sides of the coin. Always something new to ponder though...2 -
@KnitOrMiss can I just say your new profile pic and haircut is beautiful! Love it!
^^^^ This
Such a lovely new profile pic.2 -
retirehappy wrote: »@KnitOrMiss can I just say your new profile pic and haircut is beautiful! Love it!
^^^^ This
Such a lovely new profile pic.
I thought the same thing. 1 -
@kpk54 - re: fibre... same for me, no difference if I am eating 5g or 50g. As long as I stay away from fibre based on wheat and similar grains (celiac). But I also appreciate we are all different and 'ya just gotta find what works for ya.'1
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »@nikoba - thank you. It's actually a throwback picture from 5 years ago yesterday. I went to get my divorce signed off on by the judge, and I had to rock it and show my ex what he'd given up. LOL I hate my hair that short and having it in my face gets me overheated and nearly triggers panic attacks it is so bad. I nearly always wear it up. But thanks all the same!! I'm happy to have lost quite a bit of my puffiness in the last 5 years, even if not more weight.
I have to say @KnitOrMiss is lovely with or without a pic. I don't 'friend' many people just out of habit, but she made it easy to agree. 1 -
AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »I'm waiting for them to come back to me with some kind of a response. If it's a disclaimer, it will be like blowing at a gale.
If on the other hand, they surprise me and seek clarification, I will be happy to enter into correspondence with them.
Being the NHS, I suspect - and expect - the former.
The NHS thrives on self-justification and excuses.
Given that it's haemorrhaging money faster than any surgeon could staunch the flow, they're more interested in profit than patients.
Unsurprisingly, I received this automated reply: Seems that even computers and their operators take weekends off. Good think not every member of the workforce does....Thank you for emailing the NHS Choices Service Desk; The office is now closed.
Our normal business hours are 8am till 6pm Monday to Friday. We are closed on weekends and public holidays.2
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