Knee pain, help

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I started this WOE Jan 2nd. Starting 6 days ago I've had severe knee pain in both knees. They constantly feel like they need to "crack" to feel better but in doing so does nothing for relief. No prior injury and I take magnesium and potassium. Sometimes vitamin d and L glutamine and a multi vitamin but I hate taking pills so I vary what I take because otherwise it's too many pills. What on Earth is going on? I read this WOE can cause an increase of uric acid but I'm hoping someone has some insight. I don't want to quit because my body can't handle it :(

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  • stevejill91
    stevejill91 Posts: 31 Member
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    I'f they feel tight, try ice. Ive had 11 knee surgeries so I know knee discomfort. You could also try lemon juice in water to help body ph and counter the high acid. This is hard. How long have you been on keto, is this related, if it part of a transition.
    Last but not least though keto loves me but I'm not convinced its for all people. Does not work for my wife. Just a thought
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
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    How much sodium do you take?
    Sodium keeps fluid balanced.
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    I honestly wouldn’t take potassium unless you have a confirmed deficiency.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,104 Member
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    I personally found that adding turmeric and taurine really help with inflammation and electrolyte balance respectively. Also, a lot of times, keto uncovers preexisting injuries and health issues that had been hidden previously on a different dietary plan... Sometimes it's about adjusting.

    Also, I'd look at your intake, to see if there are any specific food triggers that could be affecting your joints...especially through inflammation. @Shannonigans84 - your diary isn't public, but some culprits can be dairy, fruits, fiber, grains - even low carb ones, nightshades, legumes, nuts, etc. If you have added or removed foods recently, it can relate to that.

    A coworker of mine with gout finds that even if he consumes high trigger foods, getting coconut oil in his intake regularly helps keep flare-ups at bay, thought it's not 100%, by any means....
  • Shannonigans84
    Shannonigans84 Posts: 693 Member
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    Thanks everyone! In December my blood work came back great even though I wasn't taking my iron for anemia. My guess is I was getting plenty through food. Well now I'm eating much less so it finally dawned on me my iron must be pretty low. I had been feeling like a robot the last two weeks. Just two days of iron pills and I'm feeling much better. Whew!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,104 Member
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    @Shannonigans84

    May I ask what type of Iron you take, and if you take anything with it? My numbers have always been and the lowest end of the range, finally popped below range, started supplements (with C and B12 when I take the iron), and my numbers got worse!

    I tried switching types, and stuff, because the first time I took iron, I felt amazing...

    Most research I found said 1) ferrous fumerate (though arguments abound as to quantity and frequency) or 2) ferrochel ferrous bisglycinate chelate - though again, dose, frequency, cofactors, and more so BRAND arguments here...

    I need to improve my numbers, most specifically ferritin/TIBC/% sat/Total - because my thyroid meds are far less effective without being anywhere near 75% of optimum range here. Less worried about the CBC numbers...

    Suggestions?
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,104 Member
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    Oh, and if you don't take boron, boron and zinc help strengthen the cellular walls the help keep what the cells and body needs INSIDE the areas they're needed...

    I used to have a radiating bone pain that started in my leg bones, seemingly from the center of my bones, radiating outward. Since getting sufficient boron, that pain is gone. The pain was intense enough and lasted long enough that my doctors have run just about every Lupus test there is, some of them 3 separate times.
  • Shannonigans84
    Shannonigans84 Posts: 693 Member
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    KnitOrMiss wrote: »
    @Shannonigans84

    May I ask what type of Iron you take, and if you take anything with it? My numbers have always been and the lowest end of the range, finally popped below range, started supplements (with C and B12 when I take the iron), and my numbers got worse!

    I tried switching types, and stuff, because the first time I took iron, I felt amazing...

    Most research I found said 1) ferrous fumerate (though arguments abound as to quantity and frequency) or 2) ferrochel ferrous bisglycinate chelate - though again, dose, frequency, cofactors, and more so BRAND arguments here...

    I need to improve my numbers, most specifically ferritin/TIBC/% sat/Total - because my thyroid meds are far less effective without being anywhere near 75% of optimum range here. Less worried about the CBC numbers...

    Suggestions?

    Since I have anemia (a mystery of how, I've been scoped and tests ran and no real reason as to why) I'm prescribed ferrous sulfate 325 (65 FE) MG to be taken once daily. If I take that my numbers seem to be within normal range. But taking iron puts a real strain on my digestive system and it deters me from taking it regularly. So I kind of just take it as needed. I've had anemia for 15 years so I typically know when my numbers are low. The only other thing recommended for me was a multivitamin. But I've never actually seen a specialist. I hope you find a combo that works for you!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,104 Member
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    I will not take a multivitamin. Half the stuff in it interferes with half the rest of it! I basically deconstructed mine, taking some supplements in the morning, some at lunch, and some in the evening... Just my personal choice after some research.

    Ferrous Sulfate 325, 5 gram tablets is what I was prescribed. Before that, I was taking a Gentle Iron form of chelated amino acid form... My numbers went up with Gentle Iron formula, and down with the ferrous sulfate. Even taking them together didn't help...

    I've been told the ferrochel and the fumerate are the ones more highly recommended in certain circles. I started fumerate, I think, and if I can get back into the habit of taking it, I'll definitely share the info...

    I have never seen a specialist as to why, but I remember that even as an 18-21 year old, donating blood through Carter BloodCare at work, I was always at the very bottom of the range. This last time, something happened and bumped me below it... I've always been pale (it's a running joke in my family that I'm the vampire child - pale and burn in the sun), and fatigued as long as I can recall... I know my thyroid plays into that, and my B12 and D3 deficiencies too, but I've addressed all of these things, and I still have that chronic low level fatigue and such.

    One of the hardest things for me is having low stomach acid and no gallbladder combine to make it hard for me to absorb the iron, since it requires high stomach acid to even break it down TO BE ABSORBED...

    Sending good thoughts your way, too! @Shannonigans84

    Oh, and believe me, if this is still an issue once my flexible spending account resets later this year, I will DEFINITELY see a specialist... It's miserable!