Half marathon plan. Questions.
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I'm having second thoughts on swimming lessons that I was planning to take. They conflict with the timing of the running clinic I dropped in on last night, and thoroughly enjoyed even though my *kitten* got kicked. I can see how it is going to help my running and I'm thinking I just need to focus on that, and change up my swim/lift days.
I like doing the swim/lift on the same days as I can lift at 5:30 am and swim at 4 pm and it fits my schedule nicely.
I'll try for a longer run tonight and see what's what.
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K. New question.
I did 16.5 last Sunday and 18 this Sunday. I could change my 10K next Sunday to a 1/2. Would it be stupid to do that? Time would be in the 2:20 range (based on the time for my 18K) and it's very flat whereas my 18K today included a major hill.
I've just got this dumb idea that I think I can do it so why not? I've been over my mileage goal the last couple of weeks and felt good after.0 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »K. New question.
I did 16.5 last Sunday and 18 this Sunday. I could change my 10K next Sunday to a 1/2. Would it be stupid to do that? Time would be in the 2:20 range (based on the time for my 18K) and it's very flat whereas my 18K today included a major hill.
I've just got this dumb idea that I think I can do it so why not? I've been over my mileage goal the last couple of weeks and felt good after.
If you felt good running 18K, there's no reason you couldn't complete a half marathon. Run it as a training run, and it will be no problem. Try to run it faster as a race, and it may be a mental challenge late in the race; but there's no reason to think you would be unable to finish.
The key thing is, you feel good. If you felt beat up, I'd say to wait. But if you feel good, and you like the half marathon next Sunday, there's only 2 reasons not to run it: 1) If it's closed because it reached capacity, or 2) if the entry fee and/or race logistics are a problem for you. Assuming neither of those things apply, go for it!2 -
I couldn't/didn't change it to a half, but was happy as it was my first 10K under an hour. 58:22.
But I just ran 21.25KM in 2:30 around the neighborhood, so I'm happy with that as well. I will improve on this time for sure.
I did swap an August 10K for a half so there will be 2 or 3 this year as races.2 -
So, my race got cancelled. Or rather postponed to a much later date that I won't be able to do.
So I signed up for an earlier one. June 2nd instead of the 10th. But I'll do another training half before then so I'll be good. Just annoyed as the earlier one is more money
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Chip time was 2:18 and change. But when I crossed the finish line, my watch only had 20.75KM on it and, since I signed up for the Strava half challenge, I had to go around the track one extra time to make sure my watch gave me full 21.1KM. Got asked about that by a couple people
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Hi serial stalker to the site first time poster.
Have been running since last September and now competed in a 12 km @74 minutes in September, 21.1km half marathon @ 128 minutes in April and 21.1km @ 125 minutes in May so making some progress.
All my training is on a background of base running of running 90 - 100 km a week ( 4-5 x 20 km runs and 5 km club run ) which I thoroughly enjoy. I've noticed I've gotten a bit quicker and am enjoying that as well so have made some adjustments to my running schedule
Monday 22 km run
Tuesday 10 km run with Intervals
Wednesday 22 km run
Thursday 10 km run with hill repeats
Friday 22 km run
Saturday rest day
Sunday 5-10km club run
I'm hoping to get my half marathon under 2 hours and then just gradually lower it to say 115 and 110 would be good.
My 5km club run started at 32 minutes and I'm now running it at 26.34 is my best.
Is what I'm planning realistic to get these improvements.
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joannedrummond5 wrote: »Hi serial stalker to the site first time poster.
Have been running since last September and now competed in a 12 km @74 minutes in September, 21.1km half marathon @ 128 minutes in April and 21.1km @ 125 minutes in May so making some progress.
All my training is on a background of base running of running 90 - 100 km a week ( 4-5 x 20 km runs and 5 km club run ) which I thoroughly enjoy. I've noticed I've gotten a bit quicker and am enjoying that as well so have made some adjustments to my running schedule
Monday 22 km run
Tuesday 10 km run with Intervals
Wednesday 22 km run
Thursday 10 km run with hill repeats
Friday 22 km run
Saturday rest day
Sunday 5-10km club run
I'm hoping to get my half marathon under 2 hours and then just gradually lower it to say 115 and 110 would be good.
My 5km club run started at 32 minutes and I'm now running it at 26.34 is my best.
Is what I'm planning realistic to get these improvements.
TIA
That's already a lot of improvement over a short time. So yes, I believe you can do it.0 -
joannedrummond5 wrote: »Hi serial stalker to the site first time poster.
Have been running since last September and now competed in a 12 km @74 minutes in September, 21.1km half marathon @ 128 minutes in April and 21.1km @ 125 minutes in May so making some progress.
All my training is on a background of base running of running 90 - 100 km a week ( 4-5 x 20 km runs and 5 km club run ) which I thoroughly enjoy. I've noticed I've gotten a bit quicker and am enjoying that as well so have made some adjustments to my running schedule
Monday 22 km run
Tuesday 10 km run with Intervals
Wednesday 22 km run
Thursday 10 km run with hill repeats
Friday 22 km run
Saturday rest day
Sunday 5-10km club run
I'm hoping to get my half marathon under 2 hours and then just gradually lower it to say 115 and 110 would be good.
My 5km club run started at 32 minutes and I'm now running it at 26.34 is my best.
Is what I'm planning realistic to get these improvements.
TIA
Definitely doable, especially with the amount of time you are putting into your training. I know that conventional wisdom says that in order to get faster, run more miles. But I am wondering if you might actually benefit from dialing it back just a bit. Here is my thinking: You have already built a pretty solid base, so you are likely at the point where you are going to start seeing diminishing returns (in speed) on that type of running and see your best gains from doing speed work. In order to get the best benefit from speed work, you really have to push hard and then let your body recover. You can only do this if you are well rested. Sandwiching that 22km run between your speed sessions on Wednesday might not be worth it because it won't give you the best recovery. You might want to consider going much shorter that day. And if it's possible to swap your Friday and Saturday runs, you might want to do that as well. It's all about the recovery after a hard session. If you do decide to keep all of those longer runs in there, make sure that you are taking it really easy on the pace. High mileage training definitely has its place, but if you are looking to gain speed at a distance you are already comfortable with, solid speed work is where it's at. Just my thoughts. Best of luck!1 -
Definitely doable, especially with the amount of time you are putting into your training. I know that conventional wisdom says that in order to get faster, run more miles. But I am wondering if you might actually benefit from dialing it back just a bit. Here is my thinking: You have already built a pretty solid base, so you are likely at the point where you are going to start seeing diminishing returns (in speed) on that type of running and see your best gains from doing speed work. In order to get the best benefit from speed work, you really have to push hard and then let your body recover. You can only do this if you are well rested. Sandwiching that 22km run between your speed sessions on Wednesday might not be worth it because it won't give you the best recovery. You might want to consider going much shorter that day. And if it's possible to swap your Friday and Saturday runs, you might want to do that as well. It's all about the recovery after a hard session. If you do decide to keep all of those longer runs in there, make sure that you are taking it really easy on the pace. High mileage training definitely has its place, but if you are looking to gain speed at a distance you are already comfortable with, solid speed work is where it's at. Just my thoughts. Best of luck!
Thank you. There is no problem swapping Friday and Saturday round. I could probably do a longer run then. With the Wednesday I'll go at recovery pace and see how I go. Is there any other spèed work I should be doing.
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midwesterner85 wrote: »joannedrummond5 wrote: »Hi serial stalker to the site first time poster.
Have been running since last September and now competed in a 12 km @74 minutes in September, 21.1km half marathon @ 128 minutes in April and 21.1km @ 125 minutes in May so making some progress.
All my training is on a background of base running of running 90 - 100 km a week ( 4-5 x 20 km runs and 5 km club run ) which I thoroughly enjoy. I've noticed I've gotten a bit quicker and am enjoying that as well so have made some adjustments to my running schedule
Monday 22 km run
Tuesday 10 km run with Intervals
Wednesday 22 km run
Thursday 10 km run with hill repeats
Friday 22 km run
Saturday rest day
Sunday 5-10km club run
I'm hoping to get my half marathon under 2 hours and then just gradually lower it to say 115 and 110 would be good.
My 5km club run started at 32 minutes and I'm now running it at 26.34 is my best.
Is what I'm planning realistic to get these improvements.
TIA
That's already a lot of improvement over a short time. So yes, I believe you can do it.
Thank you. Thats what I was thinking as well.0
