Low carb/keto shows a very slight reversal in Alzheimer's

nvmomketo
nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
edited December 20 in Social Groups
They treated Alzheimer's patients with a keto diet and saw ab improvement across the board. The problem was in moderate cases in getting the patients to eat the right food. My take away is in the earlier stages, it may help slow the disease and may set up the patient to expect the same diet on the future, making it easier to administer. JMO :)

https://www.mdedge.com/clinicalneurologynews/article/145220/alzheimers-cognition/fueling-alzheimers-brain-fat?fbclid=IwAR01LFj7ZHCi-KgzAJXYpTnezD0BjeOme-A4jvPEwxv_BdM1qCs36RldQZ4

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  • swezeytba
    swezeytba Posts: 624 Member
    Wish I had know this when we were caring for my husband's mother. I feel it could have done so much for her. Even when she was in the mild to moderate stages.
  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    Thanks for posting. I always seem to find a link-in a link-very interesting. This one is of interest to me also.
    http://colinchamp.com/the-mediterranean-ketogenic-lifestyle/

    Certainly my take home from the topic article...high fat. 70%. Being 65, these things like Alzheimer's take on new meaning. :o
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    Alzheimers and dementia treatment with keto really interests me because of my n=1 experience with it.

    I like to think tgat I am relatively smart. I think I was smarter in my younger years, and i knew hat I was slipping already in my late 30s and early 40s. I figured it was just aging. I went keto and after about a month I felt sharper. My husband even noticed and commented, and he is not usually the most observant about things like this. I had prediabetes and some autoimmune issues that are linked to dementis so it freaked me out... quite a bit.

    When I say that I stay with keto for how it makes me feel, that cognitive improvement is a large factor. I dont want to start slipping cognitively in mid life again!

    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and all that. ;)
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    I wish I could get my mil to try Keto with my fil who has dementia. She’s such a low fat believer and won’t do it. She even has my husband believing that we eat too many eggs so he’s decreased his consumption because of it, and is eating low fat yogurt (yuck!!)! Though he has no problem using my hwc in his coffee!!

    She’s of the generation who swallowed the fat heart hypothesis hook, line, and sinker! It kills me to see the margarine and vegetable oil she uses. I’ve always thought that his dementia was related to that, but they don’t want to listen to me.

  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    How does the saying go? “An ounce of prevention...”
  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    Agree and that is why I emphasize keto (and in this keto for Alzheimer's) is a 70% fat diet. If more people read the pitfalls of high protein they may eat differently. If one is neither engaged in a lot of exercise/activity nor in extreme weight loss mode, there is not a need for tons of protein. Heck, there are vegan athletes who do not focus on adding excessive protein to their diet and they perform at high levels.

    Phinney himself stated a WFKD (well formulated ketogenic diet) is a 10 to 15 and max 20% protein diet.

    High protein is becoming the new "low fat craze". JMO.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Mom has Lewy Body Dementia and there is very little research on it compared to Alzheimer's Dementia, although it comprises 15-35% of all dementias. We tried MCT oil for a while but she has deteriorated to the point where it is very difficult to get her to eat certain things. Her tastes and appetite swing wildly from day to day. The only thing that is a constant is her love of sweet stuff but that is ingrained in us as fetuses. Luckily she cannot access that stuff on her own as she doesn't go out to shop and the desserts at their Senior Residence are pretty small. Mom & Dad's doc has suggested they cut the dessert & intermittently fast (do without breakfast) as a means to lose weight and drop blood sugars. Perhaps it will help with the dementia too, but it is related to Parkinson's Disease... so who knows.
  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
    Keto is being experimented with as a treatment for Parkinson's...I remember reading about some studies that were starting back when I was doing migraine research, but I haven't tracked them to see if there was any success. That was about 18 months ago and they were starting a bunch of studies with keto and neurological issues to study impact.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    Something has been known a long time that people with weak hearts can see up to a 25% increase in effectiveness of pumping blood. I think the person in the article below when from 35 to 45% output which supports the 25% improvement number I read a few years ago.

    Increased Cardiac output while following a ketogenic diet

    [url="http://"]woundedheartproject.com/increased-cardiac-output/[/url]

    Today a guy was telling me his 85 year old MIL gave up due to years of congestive heart failure. They pulled all of her meds and she stopped eating or drinking and lived another 4-5 days and still had urine output. The doctor told them her CHF started to improve when she stopped eat and that is "NORMAL".

    Well after the first day she was in ketosis. Being obese I was wondering how long with water would she have lived. Even on morphine but no other medical intervention she was verbal until the last 24 hours.

    I am glad that I know about and do keto. I do not claim it is the magic solution for all medical issues but I would not trade even 1 oz of keto prevention for 1 ton Rx Meds treatments. Keto has done so much for my health in so many ways. I am still getting more reversing of my Ankylosing Spondylitis naturally fused joints week by week with physical therapies.

    Now getting an 85 year old to go KETO would be another thing I expect. The good thing is even if we stop doing keto we could jump right back to doing it again. I am convinced Keto is the best source of prevention out there in my case. It was what the MD told the family that hit me like a ton of bricks and I bet he never was even aware ketosis kicked in.
  • youngmomtaz
    youngmomtaz Posts: 1,075 Member
    My mom and aunts have been playing with this with my grandma. It is too early to see any results but the food is something they do not struggle with. She does tend towards wanting to choose breads and such and was confused as to why bread was gone. Thank goodness cookies and baking are easier to replicate. Good, really good bread, not so much. Many of the elderly in her care home have all rejected many cooked/raw veggies, salad especially. But they find bacon, sausage, true cream gravies served over meat, cream based puddings, homemade ice cream, creamed spinach, stewed berries with sweetener, etc is all working well. Her dementia/Alzheimer’s is fairly advanced but my aunts and mother are willing to be the trial family for my grandmothers Center and prove to them that it is not so hard to implement and actually results in less wasted food and time over serving the SAD. It would be awesome if they saw any results. Sadly, I feel like it should be implemented way early in life for any benefit, and then it is likely to be attributed(the non Alzheimer’s in later life) to luck.
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