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Living The Lifestyle - Monday 6/5/23

crewahl
crewahl Posts: 5,169 Member
edited June 2023 in Social Groups
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Today's Topic: Artificial Intelligence

The London Daily Mail asked an Artificial Intelligence device for its five top tips to lose weight. It came back with:

1. HIIT
2. Meal prep
3. Intermittent fasting
4. Reduce sugar and carbs
5. Track your progress

Buying any of this? How many are you doing?

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  • Al_Howard
    Al_Howard Posts: 9,714 Member
    OK, refresh my mind. What is HIIT? 2,4&5 sound like WW.
  • cakeman21k
    cakeman21k Posts: 7,085 Member
    Yeah I am not trusting AI for advice on weight loss!
  • Al_Howard
    Al_Howard Posts: 9,714 Member
    cakeman21k wrote: »
    Yeah I am not trusting AI for advice on weight loss!

    And, why not? (100+ pounds off, and holding) ;)
  • crewahl
    crewahl Posts: 5,169 Member
    Al_Howard wrote: »
    OK, refresh my mind. What is HIIT? 2,4&5 sound like WW.

    Bursts of high intensity, Lowe intensity, high intensity - all within one workout.

    And you probably know AI (capital A, capital I) is artificial intelligence - although it looks like your name (which is why I typed it out in the question)
  • crewahl
    crewahl Posts: 5,169 Member
    I think it makes sense - and any Artificial Intelligence bot is gonna scan the literature, and these are what ruse to the top.

    I do 2, 4 and 5. I’ve only done intermittent fasting by accident. My stock answer on that is I fast from 10 PM to 7 AM or so. In terms of high intensity interval training, I don’t deliberately do it - although my preferred outside walk is all hills and valleys, and my heart rate report does mimic that.
  • imastar2
    imastar2 Posts: 6,662 Member
    1. No
    2. Around 5 minutes prior
    3. By accident or default.
    4. Yes
    5. Yes
    Advice from AI not really.
  • Brian_19
    Brian_19 Posts: 1,758 Member
    I had a coworker who went whole hog into intermittent fasting, and, for that matter, most (or all?) of that A.I. top five list. He was working with a personal trainer on both nutrition and fitness, and had tremendous success. He tried to convince me of the merits of intermittent fasting, but I was never going to bite. Even if the science makes sense, it's not for me.
  • crewahl
    crewahl Posts: 5,169 Member
    Brian_19 wrote: »
    Even if the science makes sense, it's not for me.

    Hmmm - I like that thought. That fact that an approach may (or may not) work from a medical perspective doesn’t mean it works in the way we choose to live.
  • 88olds
    88olds Posts: 4,585 Member
    There’s a court case in NY where the lawyer filed a brief prepared by AI. Unfortunately, he didn’t check the work before he filed it with the court. It’s an impressive document. Reasonably well written. A sound legal argument supported by legal citations in prefect form. Problem is the citations are fake. Made up. Lies. It took the court a bit of effort to figure it out but the judges clerk tried to find the appellate opinions referenced in the brief. The case didn’t exist. Completely made up. It’s not unusual for lawyers to try to stretch the application of a case to help support their argument. Sometimes lawyers will go so far as to misrepresent what a case says. But making them up? No this is new.

    What I take away from this is that AI looked at humans at work and concluded: when put on the spot the smart thing to do is lie and cheat.
  • misterhub
    misterhub Posts: 7,092 Member
    As with any approach to health, always validate and verify prior to buying into it.
  • steve0mania
    steve0mania Posts: 3,405 Member
    I think we've heard about AI hallucinations already, right? I think most of us would buy into the idea that "you can't outrun your mouth." In other words, it doesn't matter how much exercise you do (HIIT, included), you can always ruin that hard work by eating too much. As such, I'm not putting too much stock into an AI generated list.

    There are places where AI is likely to be very helpful. Reasoned opinion is not one of those (at least at the moment).

    What it really gets down to is that AI is really good at taking large datasets with known outcomes, and extrapolating those results (e.g., figuring out who has breast cancer via mammogram analysis by first reviewing thousands of prior mammograms and correlating those data with who does, and who doesn't, have cancer, and then extrapolating those data to "unknowns.") AI does not seem to be so great at "thought."
  • crewahl
    crewahl Posts: 5,169 Member
    steve0mania wrote: »
    There are places where AI is likely to be very helpful. Reasoned opinion is not one of those (at least at the moment).

    Great assessment, Steve.

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