October Goals
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I picture this more as a "I can do a 5k and I'd really like to do more/better but I'm not quite ready for my Nike sponsorship" group.
That is a great description! I looked for a general running group on here, but was't successful. Even if there was one, I still want to hang out with the people on this group.
My speed goal is fueled by my trathlon needs. My running is so drastically different in ability than the swimming and biking, that it's where I need to improve. A lot.
I've been working the treadmill in the hopes that I can retrain my muscles in a certain speed. Right now I'm working on 9:31 miles (6.3 mph), which is good compared to the 11-12 min miles I was doing outside. I can do that speed, and I can do it for repeated distances, I just need to increase my endurance and do it for longer - without jog breaks in between. I am able to run faster than 6.3 on the treadmill, but that pace seemed like it was a good compromise in something I could maintain for longer runs. When I get to my workouts, it feels like the beginnings of C25K - "CAN I do this??" But I have a little more confidence that I can do it, based on successfully finishing C25K by just doing the next workout. I just tell myself to do the next part. And the next. I really want to do 9 min/miles, but that seemed a bit over-ambitious at this point. Hopefully I can get to 9 min miles for a half-marathon (though not likely at all for a Half-Iron, which has a half marathon at the end). It might be a few years for that, though.0 -
You are going to suprise yourself with the flat course. Hills are speed sessions in drag!
That is what my trainer (a runner) tells me...including today. She keeps wanting me to run hills.0 -
I'm just scared, Becky. I run the numbers, it looks like I'll be fine. But those last couple miles kill me and I'm just scared.
There's going to be marathoners passing me toward the last third of the race, you know.
But it's OK. It's amazing what you have accomplished in less than a year.0 -
Well...my goals don't technically belong in this group, but I love hanging out with you, so I'm staying.
I kind of think of this group as "Bridge to 10K...and Beyond."
This week I started Hal Higdon's 15K training program. Although I'm going to incorporate some new cardio into my workout routine over the winter my trainer told me he still wants me running three times a week and gave me the okay to do this plan. Higdon has recovery weeks built in, including week 1, so just three 2 mile runs. Monday I had to split it into two 1-mile runs because of scheduling with my trainer, and Wednesday was 2 miles on the treadmill, but tomorrow's 2 mile run I plan to do hill repeats (on a fairly long loop so I'm estimating 5 or 6 times up the hill).
PERFECT!! We can "not belong" together.0 -
And I was reminded today that a group of gym friends and I were going to run a "12Ks of Christmas" in mid-December. So I have to train a bit for that, too, while I'm working on speed. They are all 8:30-9:30 min/mile people.
If I could do it in 10 min/mile, that might be a good goal, but I'll have to reevaluate as Oct and Nov progress.0 -
Varda you very well may have marathoners passing you toward the end (which I understand from a friend of mine is a little bit of a jolt when it first happens!) but that's okay. Those people are crazy fast. You just go out there and run YOUR race. You've trained so hard for this and you've experienced all the ups and downs that come with that...remember that the race itself is your reward.
Kathleen I'm having the opposite problem on the treadmill - I'm running much slower than I do outside and it hurts more. Outside my first mile is generally my slowest and I'm wondering if part of the problem is that I'm trying to start out closer to my average split time vs. starting out slower and then speeding up. I do warm-up walks both outside & on the treadmill.
As far as hills, two weeks ago I had a horrible run and it was 3 miles on an almost totally flat course. I couldn't understand why it was so hard and I was pretty upset about it. The answer is there weren't any hills? Funny! My regular routes have rolling hills (and my hills run have big hills) and flat totally kicked my butt. My 5K last weekend I ran just a smidge further, on a hilly course, where I walked about half mile of it, and I was still 30 seconds faster than the flat course run.
I've been setting the incline on the treadmill at a steady 1.0 - maybe I need to keep varying it between 0.5 and 3.0 to simulate my gradual hills.0 -
A lot of people have challenges when they go from outside to the treadmill. It's a different kind of running. The answer is to slow it down and work back up.0
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You are going to suprise yourself with the flat course. Hills are speed sessions in drag!
That is what my trainer (a runner) tells me...including today. She keeps wanting me to run hills.
Hills are awesome anyway.0 -
A lot of people have challenges when they go from outside to the treadmill. It's a different kind of running. The answer is to slow it down and work back up.
Thanks. I'm going to do that.
I keep hearing how running on the treadmill is supposed to be so much easier, so I was wondering what was wrong me with me that I don't feel the same way. This is an excellent time to start practicing those easy runs we talked about earlier. My brain was fighting the much slower pace but I'm pretty sure my body is going to be on board with that.
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That is a great description! I looked for a general running group on here, but was't successful. Even if there was one, I still want to hang out with the people on this group.
There are two I belong to:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/30-couch-to-5k-running-program-c25k
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/94-long-distance-runners
I like them both, but neither are places where I can say "Hey, I just ran 10 miles and it kicked my butt." I mean, I could and they'd be sympathetic and tell me their running stories - a number of the people who comment on my newsfeed are from there, but it's not like here, where you all get where I'm at.When I get to my workouts, it feels like the beginnings of C25K - "CAN I do this??" But I have a little more confidence that I can do it, based on successfully finishing C25K by just doing the next workout. I just tell myself to do the next part.
That's the way I've been with my half-marathon plan. C25K got me used to following an impossible plan and achieving it. And, I mean, I would have finished under time if my half was on Wednesday.And the next. I really want to do 9 min/miles, but that seemed a bit over-ambitious at this point. Hopefully I can get to 9 min miles for a half-marathon (though not likely at all for a Half-Iron, which has a half marathon at the end). It might be a few years for that, though.
10 is about average. 9 requires a little more focused effort, but there are a number of people on MFP that do marathons/half marathons in the 7 minute range. And I know that you have the dedication to pull that off.0 -
12.30 miles into my 50 mile goal. So definitely on course to make my goal. How is everyone else doing?0
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Trying not to think about it too much 0
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I keep hearing how running on the treadmill is supposed to be so much easier, so I was wondering what was wrong me with me that I don't feel the same way. This is an excellent time to start practicing those easy runs we talked about earlier. My brain was fighting the much slower pace but I'm pretty sure my body is going to be on board with that.
Eh. If you do something *different* as a runner, you should probably slow down. I've heard that treadmills use fewer glute muscles and whatever, but enough people experience challenges with the transition that I think of it as more of a different style of running.0 -
Ended up having a nasty case of bloating and gas pains last night so decided to swap my cross train day and my long run day. So long run is tomorrow. Still tryimg to decide what to do today. Might do the stair master today and get some quad and maximus work in.0
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Yam, have you been walking at all. While walking isn't running, it will help keep some of that time on your feet. The good thing about running is once you have a basic base it is easy to pick it back up. Just start out with a mile or two and then go up from there.
I was walking a lot last week on holiday (that's pretty much what our breaks revolve around - big hills and beer lol) and managed to keep clocking up about 7-10miles a day until Friday but then it seems like the stuffing got knocked out of me so I've been a lazybones since. Off work tomorrow though so I reckon a long slow wander with the dog in the woods is on the cards so I shouldn't get too puffed.
Hoping to get back in the saddle again mid next week if I can ditch the inhaler - it's amazing how appealing the dark mornings are looking now that I've been told 'not' to run, suddenly I can't wait to get out there in the dark lol0 -
Kathleen I'm having the opposite problem on the treadmill - I'm running much slower than I do outside and it hurts more. Outside my first mile is generally my slowest and I'm wondering if part of the problem is that I'm trying to start out closer to my average split time vs. starting out slower and then speeding up. I do warm-up walks both outside & on the treadmill.
As far as hills, two weeks ago I had a horrible run and it was 3 miles on an almost totally flat course. I couldn't understand why it was so hard and I was pretty upset about it. The answer is there weren't any hills? Funny! My regular routes have rolling hills (and my hills run have big hills) and flat totally kicked my butt. My 5K last weekend I ran just a smidge further, on a hilly course, where I walked about half mile of it, and I was still 30 seconds faster than the flat course run.
I've been setting the incline on the treadmill at a steady 1.0 - maybe I need to keep varying it between 0.5 and 3.0 to simulate my gradual hills.
That makes sense on the treadmill - maybe your body likes to ease into it's pace. Also, I think you just like to break all the rules. (treadmill vs outside, hills vs flat, anything else we should know about?)0 -
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Kathleen I'm having the opposite problem on the treadmill - I'm running much slower than I do outside and it hurts more. Outside my first mile is generally my slowest and I'm wondering if part of the problem is that I'm trying to start out closer to my average split time vs. starting out slower and then speeding up. I do warm-up walks both outside & on the treadmill.
As far as hills, two weeks ago I had a horrible run and it was 3 miles on an almost totally flat course. I couldn't understand why it was so hard and I was pretty upset about it. The answer is there weren't any hills? Funny! My regular routes have rolling hills (and my hills run have big hills) and flat totally kicked my butt. My 5K last weekend I ran just a smidge further, on a hilly course, where I walked about half mile of it, and I was still 30 seconds faster than the flat course run.
I've been setting the incline on the treadmill at a steady 1.0 - maybe I need to keep varying it between 0.5 and 3.0 to simulate my gradual hills.
That makes sense on the treadmill - maybe your body likes to ease into it's pace. Also, I think you just like to break all the rules. (treadmill vs outside, hills vs flat, anything else we should know about?)
You crack me up, Kathleen. And actually yeah my trainer is constantly telling me some variation of how what I like is opposite from most of his clients. Apparently I just like to be contrary.0 -
Well the 10 mile mark is dust. That is my furthest running distance yet...until next weekend's 13.1 miles. I actually did pretty well. I went just slightly over my half marathon pace and clocked an average 12:00/mile. I am hoping to stay in the 11:30-11:45 range next weekend, but I am out to finish so if I need to slow it down I will.
I understand by what you mean in pain Varda. I started hitting a small wall at mile 9 but I pulled out of it and by the end of the run I was back in a runner's high. On my cool down I was a little confused and stuff, definately felt the effects of what running can do to you mentally and physically. Definately not ready to try for a marathon.
This week is taper, and it is a weird feeling. I know I technically run just as much as I did last week but it is weird to be pulling back on the runs. This week is only 4, 3, 2 miles....in that order. I will continue to strength train, though Wednesday is squat day so might just go light weight/high rep Wednesday.0 -
Well the 10 mile mark is dust. That is my furthest running distance yet...until next weekend's 13.1 miles. I actually did pretty well. I went just slightly over my half marathon pace and clocked an average 12:00/mile. I am hoping to stay in the 11:30-11:45 range next weekend, but I am out to finish so if I need to slow it down I will.
I understand by what you mean in pain Varda. I started hitting a small wall at mile 9 but I pulled out of it and by the end of the run I was back in a runner's high. On my cool down I was a little confused and stuff, definately felt the effects of what running can do to you mentally and physically. Definately not ready to try for a marathon.
This week is taper, and it is a weird feeling. I know I technically run just as much as I did last week but it is weird to be pulling back on the runs. This week is only 4, 3, 2 miles....in that order. I will continue to strength train, though Wednesday is squat day so might just go light weight/high rep Wednesday.
You are doing amazing! I'm so excited for you.
But yeah, last year at this time, I knew I wouldn't ever be a runner. 14 weeks later, I was graduating C25k, proving that I'd underestimated myself, and had no idea of my actual limits. I know them now: 13.1 miles
I definitely see what CarsonRuns means when he says that you shouldn't do a marathon for a few years after starting running.0 -
Well the 10 mile mark is dust. That is my furthest running distance yet...until next weekend's 13.1 miles. I actually did pretty well. I went just slightly over my half marathon pace and clocked an average 12:00/mile. I am hoping to stay in the 11:30-11:45 range next weekend, but I am out to finish so if I need to slow it down I will.
I understand by what you mean in pain Varda. I started hitting a small wall at mile 9 but I pulled out of it and by the end of the run I was back in a runner's high. On my cool down I was a little confused and stuff, definately felt the effects of what running can do to you mentally and physically. Definately not ready to try for a marathon.
This week is taper, and it is a weird feeling. I know I technically run just as much as I did last week but it is weird to be pulling back on the runs. This week is only 4, 3, 2 miles....in that order. I will continue to strength train, though Wednesday is squat day so might just go light weight/high rep Wednesday.
Well done on hitting 10miles! Fantastic milestone, 'scuse the pun 0 -
Completely get it as well! I am planning on following everyone's advise over in the Long Distance group and not do a marathon until you have cut your HM time to below 2 hours. The thought of doing 20 miles after yesterday's 10 is overwhelming.I definitely see what CarsonRuns means when he says that you shouldn't do a marathon for a few years after starting running.
You say this now, and in 10 years you might be setting local records at 5Ks. The limits are endless, strive for the highest but remain humble in the actual (that quote is trade mark of Becky inc. lol).But yeah, last year at this time, I knew I wouldn't ever be a runner. 14 weeks later, I was graduating C25k, proving that I'd underestimated myself, and had no idea of my actual limits. I know them now: 13.1 miles0 -
I definitely see what CarsonRuns means when he says that you shouldn't do a marathon for a few years after starting running.
I thought my wife was crazy for doing a marathon a year after starting running but she's doing it this month. Her training has gone well and she is well prepared to finish without dying. She's running the actual marathon course with a group as a training run this weekend. I am aiming to do my first marathon late next year in Savannah. That will be 2 years after I started.0 -
Completely get it as well! I am planning on following everyone's advise over in the Long Distance group and not do a marathon until you have cut your HM time to below 2 hours. The thought of doing 20 miles after yesterday's 10 is overwhelming.I definitely see what CarsonRuns means when he says that you shouldn't do a marathon for a few years after starting running.
You say this now, and in 10 years you might be setting local records at 5Ks. The limits are endless, strive for the highest but remain humble in the actual (that quote is trade mark of Becky inc. lol).But yeah, last year at this time, I knew I wouldn't ever be a runner. 14 weeks later, I was graduating C25k, proving that I'd underestimated myself, and had no idea of my actual limits. I know them now: 13.1 miles
My actual strategy is to remain injury free into my 80s. Then I will consistently medal in my age group.0 -
I definitely see what CarsonRuns means when he says that you shouldn't do a marathon for a few years after starting running.
I thought my wife was crazy for doing a marathon a year after starting running but she's doing it this month. Her training has gone well and she is well prepared to finish without dying. She's running the actual marathon course with a group as a training run this weekend. I am aiming to do my first marathon late next year in Savannah. That will be 2 years after I started.
One of my MFP friends has a brother who started running this spring and just finished his first marathon in just over 4 hours. As a matter of fact, if you remember xtrout, he went straight into marathon training after finishing C25k.
However, I'm a lot more aware of what 26.2 miles on foot actually means in physical terms. Unless you are volunteering as a Roman Legionnaire, it's really a matter of choice for us to train for a marathon and, according to Carson - who is really well grounded in running theory - it just takes a couple years for our bodies to adjust to that level of effort.
I mean, the marathoners say that "it doesn't really begin to hurt until mile 20." And I haven't gone past 11.75.0 -
There are two I belong to:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/30-couch-to-5k-running-program-c25k
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/94-long-distance-runners
I like them both, but neither are places where I can say "Hey, I just ran 10 miles and it kicked my butt." I mean, I could and they'd be sympathetic and tell me their running stories - a number of the people who comment on my newsfeed are from there, but it's not like here, where you all get where I'm at.
Thanks - I will follow the long distance one now, too (the C25K one is where I really got started here with MFP.)
I've been so thankful for the new runners I've met here. We all started at a similar time, and I think you all are a HUGE part/reason for where I am today. I love going through this with you.0 -
Completely get it as well! I am planning on following everyone's advise over in the Long Distance group and not do a marathon until you have cut your HM time to below 2 hours. The thought of doing 20 miles after yesterday's 10 is overwhelming.I definitely see what CarsonRuns means when he says that you shouldn't do a marathon for a few years after starting running.
You say this now, and in 10 years you might be setting local records at 5Ks. The limits are endless, strive for the highest but remain humble in the actual (that quote is trade mark of Becky inc. lol).But yeah, last year at this time, I knew I wouldn't ever be a runner. 14 weeks later, I was graduating C25k, proving that I'd underestimated myself, and had no idea of my actual limits. I know them now: 13.1 miles
My actual strategy is to remain injury free into my 80s. Then I will consistently medal in my age group.
My goal too. Get down to the correct weight. Stay there. Keep running. I might be the tortoise. but sometimes the tortoise wins.0 -
My biggest goal in October was to finish the 50 mile Tour de Cure last weekend.
Now that that's done- I'm going to keep at it with alternating bicycling days with running days, with at least one longer ride and run per week. I had set 250 miles as my goal for the month. I'm already at 102!
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Today on the treadmill, 6.3 (a 9:31 pace) felt like 5.5 used to - meaning it didn't feel too difficult (until the last mile - then I was mentally done...but that last mile was one I just tacked on, anyway, and hadn't gone into my workout planning to do it - AND I worked with some sprints at the end). The treadmill is still just as boring as ever, but I will keep using it for a while to train myself to move faster. I've been capable of it, I just haven't. Prior to my treadmill speedwork, I've been running at 11:15-12 min/mile (usually 3-5 miles at a time) outside. I hope eventually to take the treadmill speed outside.
I also work on cadence counting while I'm on there. It makes the time go faster by distracting me.0 -
Today on the treadmill, 6.3 (a 9:31 pace) felt like 5.5 used to - meaning it didn't feel too difficult (until the last mile - then I was mentally done...but that last mile was one I just tacked on, anyway, and hadn't gone into my workout planning to do it - AND I worked with some sprints at the end). The treadmill is still just as boring as ever, but I will keep using it for a while to train myself to move faster. I've been capable of it, I just haven't. Prior to my treadmill speedwork, I've been running at 11:15-12 min/mile (usually 3-5 miles at a time) outside. I hope eventually to take the treadmill speed outside.
I also work on cadence counting while I'm on there. It makes the time go faster by distracting me.
The treadmill is the best place to work on cadence and strike.0
