excema flares with lc/hf ?

Debbiedebbiey

Never had excema issues before lchf. Let me say, first, I LOVE this way of eating, I've lost 15 lbs, tried every other way ( eat more/weigh less, low fat, counting cals, 40/40/30 macros) unfortunately, I think I'm going to have to call it quits as I've researched anti inflammatory eating, it says to get fats from plant based fats & fruits/vegs.......has anyone else experienced this ? When I read animal fats, butter (no! Not my kerrygold,please) and red meat play a big part in inflammation, I have to wonder if I'm doing the right thing.....or are they just high fat flamers ???? My excema is pretty painful so I must do something....soon

chani8

So sorry to hear you're hurting!! For me, it was all about eating clean, meaning switching to organic foods as much as possible. Actually, most of my issues (similar to PCOS) resolved when I switched to chicken that doesn't get shots, and it's not even organic. My point is, I think it's the hormones and pesticides and chemicals in food that are inflammatory, not the food.

Also, you can still lc/hf even as a vegan. I don't see the problem. Olive oil and sesame oil are wonderful, as well as avocado and nuts and seeds.

But whatever you decide to do, I support you on your weight loss journey!! Good luck!!

kiramaniac

I haven't had any change with respect to my eczema. Mine ties to the weather, cold, water and water. Regular use of cortizone keeps mine controlled. If anything, I'd say that things were worse with standard American diet. The info I've looked at does not have a clear cause for eczema - and I'm not sure that there's research to support that it's caused by inflammation or a high fat diet.

Are you sure it's eczema? There is "keto rash" that some get. It tends to be fairly short term (maybe a month or two).

For me, too much dish washing inevitably causes problems. Which is good - I have to let the husband do them!

It's curious that they are recommending not to eat animal fats and red meat as a treatment for inflammation. My boss was put onto Paleo to address inflammation and an auto-immune problem. Paleo is pretty heavy with red meat and animal fats. Are you sure that the source of your material is good? I saw something last week pushing similar ideas, and it was published by a pro-vegan group.

GabyBaby916

I haven't had any change with respect to my eczema. Mine ties to the weather, cold, water and water. Regular use of cortizone keeps mine controlled. If anything, I'd say that things were worse with standard American diet.

This has largely been my experience too, though I did notice some connections to my diet. I used to get more flareups when I was eating more sugar and processed junk. Eating better has helped in a lot of different ways.

Debbiedebbiey

Kira, I found my info on Livestrong.com....while reading about anti inflammatory diet. So, I think I'll keep eating this way, . Maybe revamp a bit, . More avacado, less dairy, more olive oil, . Less red meat....idk, I just love, and am so content, on this WOE !!!

Rei1988

I personally don't trust a lot the information on livestrong site. As chani said naturally raised/no antibiotics is best when it comes to meat but sometimes your budget or resources don't allow. I don't believe it's the red meat you should avoid, if anything it's dairy, that's what caused increased acne & small rashes for me. So I decreased dairy, processed foods & it cleared up.

JumpingDog

I'm not sure if you have heard of IF ratings but it's a measure of how inflammatory a food is. It is true that a lot of animal products are inflammatory and that plants are generally anti-inflammatory but there are some notable exceptions. For example, a lot of cold water, oily fish are highly anti-inflammatory. Some vegetables are also so anti-inflammatory they nearly negate the effects of a diet of normal portions of inflammatory foods.

Nutrition Data has a good list of foods by their IF rating.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000992000000000000000.html

Only issue is this list is arranged by the IF rating of a 200 Calorie serving, which in the case of something like peppers or spices is unreasonable. You can further break down the list by looking for just veggies, meats or whatever though. I personally try to work foods into my diet like herbs and spices. Parsley is particularly anti-inflammatory. Most greens, and vitamin-rich veggies are too. Many fruits are only moderately anti-inflammatory.

The important thing to realize is that the inflammatory-ness of foods is based on their portion size. A cup of butter is highly inflammatory (-720) but a tablespoon is only moderately inflammatory (-44). Likewise, filet mignon is supposedly slightly anti-inflammatory, as is sirloin.

A negative number is inflammatory while a positive one is anti-inflammatory. That site suggests people shoot for ~50 once their foods have cancelled each other out. I don't believe a higher number hurts though.

kiramaniac

Kira, I found my info on Livestrong.com....while reading about anti inflammatory diet. So, I think I'll keep eating this way, . Maybe revamp a bit, . More avacado, less dairy, more olive oil, . Less red meat....idk, I just love, and am so content, on this WOE !!!

I think I found the article. This one, right?
http://www.livestrong.com/article/115683-foods-cure-eczema/

The first section talks about the need for more omega-3's to reduce inflammation. There's where grass-fed butter and beef could be helpful. Flax seed / oil is supposed to be loaded with omega 3's.

The section talking about the vegan diet is apparently from Patrick Holford who wrote the "New Optimum Nutrition Bible". That book's biggest criticism is that it recommends Vitamin C over AZT as a treatment for HIV. He was also a main supporter of the whole Autism is caused by the MMR vaccines. If you can find some additional sources for veganism as a treatment / cure for eczema, OK - but I definitely wouldn't base the decision to move off LCHF based on this guy.

Good Luck! Cortizone 10 has a special version for eczema. It's great!

Rei1988

Kira, I found my info on Livestrong.com....while reading about anti inflammatory diet. So, I think I'll keep eating this way, . Maybe revamp a bit, . More avacado, less dairy, more olive oil, . Less red meat....idk, I just love, and am so content, on this WOE !!!

I think I found the article. This one, right?
http://www.livestrong.com/article/115683-foods-cure-eczema/

The first section talks about the need for more omega-3's to reduce inflammation. There's where grass-fed butter and beef could be helpful. Flax seed / oil is supposed to be loaded with omega 3's.

The section talking about the vegan diet is apparently from Patrick Holford who wrote the "New Optimum Nutrition Bible". That book's biggest criticism is that it recommends Vitamin C over AZT as a treatment for HIV. He was also a main supporter of the whole Autism is caused by the MMR vaccines. If you can find some additional sources for veganism as a treatment / cure for eczema, OK - but I definitely wouldn't base the decision to move off LCHF based on this guy.

Good Luck! Cortizone 10 has a special version for eczema. It's great!

Kira is like a little encyclopedia, full of information. I want a pocket kira, lol.

kiramaniac

Kira is like a little encyclopedia, full of information. I want a pocket kira, lol.

Ha. I cheat - I'm just really skilled with googling.
The husband says that I'm a font of useless knowledge. I am pretty killer at Trivial Pursuit though, so I have that going for me.

EddieHaskell97

I'm a little surprised. I don't think that I have excema, but my skin has really cleared up since going into ketosis.

nordakota

My 7-year old has eczema and it is greatly irritated by dairy. He seems to tolerate yogurt and kefir (with probiotic) but I can really tell if he's had a lot of cheese, etc. in a particular day. Just my observation. Everyone is different probably. You could try going a week w/o to test it and see if that helps at all...