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Ms_J1
Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
Can someone please translate this for me?

"PS: 8 or 16 x 75 stroke = imo by round or prime
1=stroke – good tech on 1:15 or 1:30 or r10s"

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  • ProfessorOwl
    ProfessorOwl Posts: 312 Member
    For your pre-set, you do either 8 or 16 75s non-freestyle. Do them in IM order or choose your favorite stroke.

    First one per round, focus on technique. Do them all on either 1:15 or 1:30, or 10 seconds of rest after each one, your choice.

    Although I don't see anything in that that suggests multiple rounds.
  • Ms_J1
    Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
    Thanks, Professor! Now I get it. So the "on 1:15 or 1:30" means if I finish before either of those times (depending on fitness level), I use the remaining time to rest or I can just rest for 10 seconds before starting the next round?

    Here's the entire pre-set. I didn't post it because I knew if I just understood the first one, I would understand the others. Sorry for the confusion!

    PS: 8 or 16 x 75 stroke = imo by round or prime
    1=stroke – good tech on 1:15 or 1:30 or r10s
    2=25 free, 50 stroke on 1:10 or 1:25 or R10s
    3=50 free, 25 stroke on 1:05 or 1:20 or r10s
    4=free on 1;00 or 1:15 or r10s

    Now, how did you figure out the non-freestyle part? Is that just common knowledge on a 75 IM (since you obviously can't swim full lengths of four different strokes)? And what's a prime?

    I swear, I used to know this stuff.. Like, when I was 11.
  • ProfessorOwl
    ProfessorOwl Posts: 312 Member
    if your interval is 1:15 and you finish in say, 1:06, you use the remaining 9 seconds to rest. Alternatively, you could always wait 10 seconds before the next one regardless of how long it takes you.

    I would swim the PS as

    1st 75: all stroke (anything non-free)
    2nd 75: 1st 25 free, next 50 non-free
    3rd 75: 1st 50 free, next 50 non-free
    4th 75: all free

    with shorter intervals the more freestyle you do. Repeat this whole thing either once or 3x. Your choice.

    "Stroke" generally refers to BR, BK, or FL. Common knowledge. Prime is your favorite or your best.

    I love these kinds of sets. I'm an IMer, although I will always hate backstroke! :bigsmile:
  • Ms_J1
    Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
    I love these kinds of sets. I'm an IMer, although I will always hate backstroke! :bigsmile:

    Backstroke WAS my best stroke but I'm not a big fan of it either. For one thing, I can't swim straight - I think my left leg kicks harder than my right. And I always get different stroke counts between the flag and the wall so I either hit the wall or have to keep dunking my head backwards to see the wall while my head is upside down.

    Thanks for the terminology lesson! I've never followed a workout plan before because I never understood the workout.
  • ProfessorOwl
    ProfessorOwl Posts: 312 Member
    I love these kinds of sets. I'm an IMer, although I will always hate backstroke! :bigsmile:

    Backstroke WAS my best stroke but I'm not a big fan of it either. For one thing, I can't swim straight - I think my left leg kicks harder than my right. And I always get different stroke counts between the flag and the wall so I either hit the wall or have to keep dunking my head backwards to see the wall while my head is upside down.

    Thanks for the terminology lesson! I've never followed a workout plan before because I never understood the workout.

    It just wears me out. 100 back is absolutely brutal!
  • Ms_J1
    Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
    I'm grateful that it comes after fly in the IM. It's my rest stroke. I even find breast to be more strenuous than back.
  • Ms_J1
    Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
    When doing build and descend intervals, do you start the next interval faster than you ended or faster than you began the previous interval? Or do you just start faster than the average pace of your previous interval?
  • ProfessorOwl
    ProfessorOwl Posts: 312 Member
    When you build, you are increasing your speed within each interval, i.e., you will end at a faster pace than you start the next one. When you descend, your time for each is faster than the previous. However you do that is up to you.
  • Ms_J1
    Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
    This one is both. It's 4 x 75 BUILD and DESC, :20RI.
  • ProfessorOwl
    ProfessorOwl Posts: 312 Member
    Oh I see. I'm honestly not sure exactly how I would pace that. I would probably focus more on the descend than the build.
  • Ms_J1
    Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
    That's what I'm thinking. I get the impression that none of these workouts are followed to the letter.
  • Ms_J1
    Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
    I laugh at the 20 second rest interval. My RIs are more like 60 second.
  • Ms_J1
    Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
    Got another weird one. "W/U: 150 Fr, 150 K, 150 Fr, 150 Pull, 8 x 50 (25 IM, 25 Fr) (:15RI)." How do you do a 25 IM?
  • logan_t
    logan_t Posts: 13 Member
    Since there are 8 total 50's, I'd interpret that as the first length is IM order, so the first 50 would be Fly/Free, second would be Back/Free, etc.
  • Ms_J1
    Ms_J1 Posts: 253 Member
    I see. So in the end, I would have done a total of 50 flies, 50 backs, 50 breasts, and 250 frees (not including the 4 x 150s before the IM order).

    25 fly free
    25 back free
    25 breast free
    25 free free
    25 fly free
    25 back free
    25 breast free
    25 free free

    Thanks! Sheesh, that's a 1,000 yard warmup!
  • conniekat8
    conniekat8 Posts: 64 Member
    Hey, I think I read someplace that you may feel like you are cheating when you start off slow in sets where you are supposed to start off slow... here are my 2c on that.
    In addition to cardio work, part of the idea with buildup sets where you start slow and build up is to start with paying attention to technique, which can be a bit of 'work' even at slower pace, and then trying to maintain that as you are speeding up. For most people who are not really top notch swimmers and have already mastered this, at some point as you are speeding up (trying to work harder and faster) you will notice your technique falling apart (fatigue and having to work faster are both components).
    Slower lap prepares you mentally for the faster one, then the next....

    The other part of it is training for more distance events (400 and longer), most of those you start slower then build up towards the end of the race, just without rest intervals in between.

    This is a bit tongue in cheek.. but if you are looking to burn a lot of calories fast... inefficient swimming is the best, you are burning a lot of calories and fighting with water (good resistance training *wink*) and not going anywhere fast....
    Of course, real swimmers who train for speed and competition will kill me for saying this :P