Calorie count in Garmin Connect

PapaChanoli
PapaChanoli Posts: 178 Member
Does anyone find that the calorie count in Garmin Connect works with MFP?

I track mine almost entirely on MFP using the GC calorie adjustment, but it would be nice if the two synced in some way. So far, it's been so radically off in GC that I completely ignore the page.
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  • 692ecs
    692ecs Posts: 33 Member
    The calorie count in GC works for me but it think it is less accurate than MFP, that or it is more generous with exercise earned calorie adjustment. Having looked back at a weeks worth of data (both when I have remained within my allocated allowance and when I have exceeded it horribly!!!) and GC consistently shows an extra 69 - 72 calories remaining than MFP. So as I am trying to lose weight I work from the MFP data for accuracy and just deduct 70 from whatever it says on GC.
  • PapaChanoli
    PapaChanoli Posts: 178 Member
    So far, mine remains off by about 2000 calories at days end.

    And I only eat about 2000 calories.
  • Minidom109
    Minidom109 Posts: 4 Member
    I am having a few niggling issues. I do a phyical job for about 5 hrs a day, but the Garmin amkes no allowance for this. Is there a way round this to get a more accurate reading.

    If so how to I imput chamabermaid>house keeper into either MFP or GC
  • PapaChanoli
    PapaChanoli Posts: 178 Member
    I am having a few niggling issues. I do a phyical job for about 5 hrs a day, but the Garmin amkes no allowance for this. Is there a way round this to get a more accurate reading.

    If so how to I imput chamabermaid>house keeper into either MFP or GC

    MFP has housekeeping listed under cardio exercises. I think the calorie estimate for housekeeping is a little high, but it's in there.
  • I have MFP linked with GC, but I do not understand the dashboard/daily summary on GC for keeping track of calories burned vs. consumed. Can someone shed some light on how to read this on GC? More specifically is the BMR on GC different then on MFP? How does the calories burned as shown on the vivofit device incorporate into the "calories in/out" dashboard on GC?

    ...I am wanting to have an easy way of calculating my deflect in calories with logging food on MFP and using the vivofit for calories burned.

    TIA
  • macunix
    macunix Posts: 1
    post by fyoung1111 in another thread:

    Let me start out by saying that I have a Fitbit One, Polar Loop, and Vivofit. The first two are now languishing in a drawer. Despite some serious software problems with both the web and mobile apps, the VF is the clear winner.

    About MFP integration. It seems complicated on the surface but is really easy to DIY once you realize how all of the moving parts fit together.

    Now that I have been mucking around in MFP for a bit, I realize that they have their own version of adulterated BMR. At least they don't call it BMR like Garmin does. MFP call it Calories Burned From Normal Daily Activity. My number (with normal daily activities setting on Sedentary) is 1,910 which is 80 calories higher than my Garminized BMR of 1,830 and 25% higher than my "Real" BMR of 1525. What this means is that MFP, like Garmin, has baked some level of activity into their baseline number.

    To make manual integration work out right, you would add your Garmin Total Calories less your MFP "Calories Burned From Normal Daily Activity" (CBFNDA) in the form of a Vivifit Custom Exercise in order to feed MFP an accurate picture of TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure or BMR+Activity Based Calorie Burn).

    For example, Garmin Connect Modern (GCM) says I burned 2,905 total calories yesterday (1,830 BMR + 1,075 Active). Subtracting MFP's 1,910 CBFNDA from 2,905 leaves 995 which is the number of calories I put in as a custom exercise. Works perfectly.

    I wish I had all of the time back I have spent *****ing at Polar and Garmin about their failure to integrate with MFP. I still wish it was automatic but, for now, I trust this more than anything Garmin might decide to feed MFP on their own. The main problem with this work-around is that you don't get accurate real-time feedback regarding your status at any point "Today" as GCM does not give you an accurate total calorie burn until midnight yesterday so this is necessarily a "morning after" retrospective exercise.

    To summarize, sometime TODAY

    1. Get YESTERDAY's Total Calories From the Steps widget on your GCM Health & Fitness (default) dashboard
    2. Subtract your MFP Calories Burned from Normal Daily Activities (found under Goals in the Your Diet Profile section)
    3. Add the difference to MFP as a custom exercise (I call mine Vivofit Activity but call it anything you want)

    All done. How easy is that?
  • veloman21
    veloman21 Posts: 418 Member
    ^^ this was true at the time but Garmin has made a lot of changes since then and the exchange of data between GC and MFP has improved a lot.

    The vivofit calorie burn should normally be higher than the MFP target calorie number because the MFP number has been artificially lowered based on how quickly you want to lose weight. So if you have entered that you want to lose 1 lb per week in MFP, your daily calorie goal will be reduced by 500 cals per day.

    So when you sync, MFP takes the "actual" cals burned data from GC and deducts the "estimated" cals burned in MFP. In theory this should give you a more accurate picture of energy use per day.

    problems can arise if you use a third party connection for exercise that is linked to MFP, for instance Runkeeper. This results in the cals burned during that exercise to be both added and deducted so you receive no credit. In these circumstances, go to settings in MFP and switch off "Allow negative adjustments" Again not ideal but but better than the alternative.
  • Pete1964AK
    Pete1964AK Posts: 85 Member
    Can I just throw my confused hat into this ring, as well.

    I'm fairly new to vivofit, having switched from a fitbit ultra after my dog ate it.
    I never had any issues with the fitbit/mfp information exchange but I am really struggling to understand what garmin are doing.
    I use MFP for my calories consumed and logging my exercise -- and I expect the vivofit to send my number of steps taken and calories used to mfp - and to give me the ability to eat chocolate when I've taken loads of steps.

    But it seems that garmin is only crediting me with additional calories burned on days I don't actually log any additional exercise.
    So, Monday I did 22K steps, which included 35 mins on the elliptical, only got the credit for the logged exercise.
    Tuesday, I did 23K steps, no exercise and got an additional 400 calories gained thru exercise".
    Today, (wed) 19K steps, 30 mins elliptical, 20 mins yoga, - tricked the garmin, synced before I logged the exercises, given a calorie credit of 325 calories, logged my exercise, (600 calories burnt), garmin and mfp synced, my 325 is gone, and my calories gained thru exercise is "just" 600.

    Am I doing something wrong or do I just not understand it?
  • DamieAnne
    DamieAnne Posts: 103 Member
    Can I just throw my confused hat into this ring, as well.

    I'm fairly new to vivofit, having switched from a fitbit ultra after my dog ate it.
    I never had any issues with the fitbit/mfp information exchange but I am really struggling to understand what garmin are doing.
    I use MFP for my calories consumed and logging my exercise -- and I expect the vivofit to send my number of steps taken and calories used to mfp - and to give me the ability to eat chocolate when I've taken loads of steps.

    But it seems that garmin is only crediting me with additional calories burned on days I don't actually log any additional exercise.
    So, Monday I did 22K steps, which included 35 mins on the elliptical, only got the credit for the logged exercise.
    Tuesday, I did 23K steps, no exercise and got an additional 400 calories gained thru exercise".
    Today, (wed) 19K steps, 30 mins elliptical, 20 mins yoga, - tricked the garmin, synced before I logged the exercises, given a calorie credit of 325 calories, logged my exercise, (600 calories burnt), garmin and mfp synced, my 325 is gone, and my calories gained thru exercise is "just" 600.

    Am I doing something wrong or do I just not understand it?

    Are you using a HRM? Or are you inputting the exercise actually onto MFP? If so that is probably the problem.

    The vivofit alters how much you've burnt calorie wise throughout the day when you sync it, so if MFP has a higher number burnt inputted already, the vivofit will adjust this to what it thinks is right.

    For example if I do exercise first thing in the morning like a run (I use a HRM with my vivofit) - I don't input any exercise directly onto MFP, I just let the vivofit track it. When I sync after that I end up with my cals burnt from the exercise, but then end up with negative calories from the adjustment (the cals burnt from steps). This negative alters throughout the day, and ends up being larger due to other walking I do. If I had put in the run just on MFP, without using the HRM to track, the vivofit would look at that number and alter it accordingly (and probably decrease it by quite a bit).

    The reason why your step calories dissappeared on the wednesday is because you don't have the negative calorie adjustment on (which may be a good thing! I do, and like I said I end up with negative cals at the start of the day sometimes). If you change this (in the settings somewhere on MFP), you'll probably see that you get a negative adjustment.

    ...Does that make any sense?
  • Pete1964AK
    Pete1964AK Posts: 85 Member
    Thanks DamieAnne, I do wear a Polar FT4 HRM, but I don't "think" it is synced with the vivofit. (I haven't done anything so unless it is done by magic...........) I pull the calories burnt of the Polar and then add that into MFP.

    That's what I find so confusing - on Wed, I didn't do my exercise until 10.00PM. so the 325 calories that the vivofit reckoned I had earned from stepping during the day should, in my mind, still be good. Then I do the exercise, and my thinking was, I was earning extra calories .................
  • Pete1964AK
    Pete1964AK Posts: 85 Member
    Well, it seems to have resolved itself. garmin connect has finally posted my exercise from mfp into my "Activities" on the GC Dashboard and as importantly, has finally posted all my exercise calories and my daily step "bonus" to the relevant days.

    The unfortunate things is that it has taken several days for this to happen, so some days I have a 1000 calorie deficit because I was being ultra cautious about eating any exercise calories back..............
  • PapaChanoli
    PapaChanoli Posts: 178 Member
    My calorie adjustments between MFP and GC Re completely broken now. No data is transferring and nothing I do to fix it works.
  • Brad592
    Brad592 Posts: 28 Member
    Hi guys, I use an iphone and GC and MFP have a bit of trouble commuicating but I find that if I have both apps open and sync the vivofit then sometimes it works! Still trying to figure out the best way....

    I have a question about running, or any exercise really. If I go for a run, the vivofit counts steps and calories burned, so do we still enter it in as exercise in MFP too or is that doubling up? My thoughts are that GC cant tell the diffrence between a casual stroll and an intese run so it is giving the same calorie burn. I'm only really using the vivofit as a pedometer at the moment with no HRM.
  • PapaChanoli
    PapaChanoli Posts: 178 Member
    Hi guys, I use an iphone and GC and MFP have a bit of trouble commuicating but I find that if I have both apps open and sync the vivofit then sometimes it works! Still trying to figure out the best way....

    I have a question about running, or any exercise really. If I go for a run, the vivofit counts steps and calories burned, so do we still enter it in as exercise in MFP too or is that doubling up? My thoughts are that GC cant tell the diffrence between a casual stroll and an intese run so it is giving the same calorie burn. I'm only really using the vivofit as a pedometer at the moment with no HRM.

    I don't run, so I have no comparison for how the vivofit distinguishes the difference. I also do use the HRM anytime I do exercise other than walking.

    As I understand it, you should not also enter exercises into MFP when they sync with GC, however, GC reports it's calories to MFP, but it recognizes any activities as walking so they all look the same with the exception of intensity, calorie and distance/duration.

    I have noticed as well that the calorie info from GC is a little generous. I wouldn't recommend eating back all of the calories. My rule of thumb has been to eat half of them back and my weight loss has been consistent.

    I hope that helps a little.
  • Hey guys, I've been using the vivofit for a couple of months now and track my calories with MFP. Why I sync my data to GC I have found that MFP calorie data pulls over to GC however any exercise I do does not pull from GC to MFP... Should this be happening? My steps also do not sync from GC to MFP. I manually enter my exercise to MFP so then in GC I will see that activity there. I should also add I don't use a HRM... From what I'm reading I need to get one! I'm still trying to figure this all out!

    Thanks!!

    Shannon
  • FromHereOnOut
    FromHereOnOut Posts: 3,237 Member
    Shannon, there should be a Garmin adjustment entry in the exercise diary. Are you getting that?

    If you want individual exercise entries, I've found that if I log it in Garmin connect, it gets posted to my MFP exercise diary with no problem. For example, "Strength training", when I go to the gym. I log it into Garmin Connect and in a few minutes, it's in my MFP exercise diary too. Whatever calories I *ADD* with regard to NON-step exercise (like my gym strength training), WILL be ADDED, above and beyond the Garmin calories I see on my wrist...so I have to be very accurate, or even conservative on my calorie burn estimate so it doesn't overinflate my daily calorie goal. I believe that with step-based manually added exercise, the calories DON'T get added b/c they are already on the wrist number...I THINK--but maybe this needs to be checked out.
  • I am not getting a garmin adjustment entry... I have updated all my apps to so I'm not sure what to do.
    Now, i just manually enter exercises into MFP but I have a hard time estimating calories burned since the Garmin doesnt tell you for each activity instead it does the full day and it will show active calories I have found. Maybe I'm not using it correctly... still pretty new to it all!

    Thanks for the info!
  • FromHereOnOut
    FromHereOnOut Posts: 3,237 Member
    You have to allow negative entries in the mfp diar settings before the integration will work. you also have to connect your accounts if u haven't already. Do that from garmin.
  • qkcam
    qkcam Posts: 67 Member
    edited May 2015
    this is a bit of an old thread but i am wondering if garmin connect is now seeing the cals from MFP when the two are linked? also is there a way to set desired weight goal and timing in garmin connect? thank you
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,643 Member
    I was having a problem but it seems that I was able to manually sync my exercise from MFP to Garmin today (after a few weeks). The sync from Garmin to MFP worked automatically. I was able to change the desired weight goal using the Garmin app. Not sure what you mean by timing.