Long runs -----> faster short runs?
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BackwoodsMom
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So, I decided to put in a short run on Saturday before our 2nd Thanksgiving dinner of the holiday. We have a nice 4.5 mile loop that is what we now call our "short" loop as our other loops are 6-7 miles. No one wanted to join me so I went on my own. I kept looking at my GPS because I thought it was stuck on an avg pace of 9:22. :noway: The last mile of that loop is uphill - tough but good for me! - so my final avg pace was 9:31. :happy: My fastest avg pace on that run had been 9:50 a couple months ago. (Our typical avg pace is between 10 and 10:20 depending on the steepnes of the hills.)
Is this typical? Do the longer runs help to make the shorter ones faster?
Is this typical? Do the longer runs help to make the shorter ones faster?
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My 5K pace got A LOT faster when I started training for my half marathon, so yes, I personally have seen a correlation. Can't wait to see if I can continue to get a faster 5K this spring as I'll be training for a marathon.
Great job!0 -
I say it all the time, keep increasing the mileage and the speed will come naturally.0
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Yup that's how it works for me too! Yay!0
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I say it all the time, keep increasing the mileage and the speed will come naturally.
This! My 10k training plan has a long run of 17 miles. That should tell you something. :-)0 -
I say it all the time, keep increasing the mileage and the speed will come naturally.
That's what I was always told when training for the marathon!0 -
I say it all the time, keep increasing the mileage and the speed will come naturally.
That's what I was always told when training for the marathon!
I always say the best thing to ever happen to my half marathons was marathon training.0 -
I always say the best thing to ever happen to my half marathons was marathon training.
Seriously! After training for and running a marathon, the halfs are a piece of cake!0 -
I've been training for a trail 50km and a couple of weeks ago PR'd a road half by 4 minutes from my previous best, all without an ounce of speed work. It's all been volume and elevation gain. I probably average 10,000 - 15,000 feet of elevation gain per month during a training cycle and I peaked at 25,000 feet during the month of October before I tapered.
Funny thing too was my previous PR attempt I felt like I was going to die and was so sore afterwards. This last PR effort wasn't even a goal race and I wasn't planning on trying to PR. It was supposed to be part of an easy recovery weekend run between a 21 mile trail run the weekend before and a 24 mile trail run the weekend after. But this run felt almost easy, more like a tempo run and when I saw my finish time I was shocked because I wasn't even paying much attention to my Garmin. I could have been even faster if I wanted to.0 -
^ ^ ^ - I always say hills are "speedwork in disguise"
I also say:
"wind is invisible hills"
"bridge is a code word for hill" - I figured this out after running the NYC marathon0 -
^^^ "speedwork in disguise" would say a lot because we do a lot of hills. Thanks for this input and encouragement! Can't wait for my next 5K and 10K races now, especially since we're working on traiing for a half in the spring.0
