here comes Santa Clause
VeganInTraining
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Santa, do you like him? do you not? will you/do you raise your children with Santa Clause? why or why not?
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I love Santa! My children will know him well.
I think that it will be really fun for them when they are younger, and it will help them learn to question authority and religion when they are older. No harm done.0 -
I love Santa now that I have a little one. I even got an app on my phone where I can scan my son and it will tell him if he's on the naughty or nice list. I can decide which by tapping on the screen
I think it's sad that people deprive their kids of the Santa, Frosty, Reindeer stuff. IF you have different beliefs, sure stress the importance of them but I've always seen Santa as a part of childhood. Coming from a Christian family I was always taught that Jesus was the meaning of Christmas (thought I would debate that as an adult) but Santa was fun too and we always had a Santa next to our Nativity, lol.0 -
I love Santa! My children will know him well.
I think that it will be really fun for them when they are younger, and it will help them learn to question authority and religion when they are older. No harm done.
how will it make them question authority and religion? i'm not saying it won't I just don't see how it will.0 -
I love Santa now that I have a little one. I even got an app on my phone where I can scan my son and it will tell him if he's on the naughty or nice list. I can decide which by tapping on the screen
I think it's sad that people deprive their kids of the Santa, Frosty, Reindeer stuff. IF you have different beliefs, sure stress the importance of them but I've always seen Santa as a part of childhood. Coming from a Christian family I was always taught that Jesus was the meaning of Christmas (thought I would debate that as an adult) but Santa was fun too and we always had a Santa next to our Nativity, lol.
That's funny about Santa next to the nativity, lots of my family is "anti-santa." I supose I am indifferent to him, haven't decided if I will raise my kids with him or not0 -
All our children "believed" in Santa Claus when they were little. Now our 9 year understands that "Santa" is the person who leaves you surprise gifts under the tree.
I think the other OP may be referring to Santa being "all-knowing", and that may confuse children since they're taught that God is all knowing. But, we did not find that to be the case in our home at all.0 -
I love Santa! My children will know him well.
I think that it will be really fun for them when they are younger, and it will help them learn to question authority and religion when they are older. No harm done.
how will it make them question authority and religion? i'm not saying it won't I just don't see how it will.
Because when they realize that their parents were lying to them, it will make them question authority, and when they realize that the invisible man who always watches them and knows if they are good or bad is fictional, it will make them question religion. I want my future hypothetical children to always be curious and questioning.0 -
My daughter is 9 and claims to still believe. I think she's just afraid she'll just start getting underwear if she fesses up. :laugh:
Looking back, the Christmas mornings when Santa came are some of my fondest memories.
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Because when they realize that their parents were lying to them, it will make them question authority, and when they realize that the invisible man who always watches them and knows if they are good or bad is fictional, it will make them question religion. I want my future hypothetical children to always be curious and questioning.
Do you know anyone who was angry, hurt, or questioned authority after learning the truth behind the story of Santa?0 -
I like Santa Claus and while my family is not religious my mom rocked out Christmas and Santa Claus and still does haha. It was a special time of year (even if it wasn't religiously significant for us) to be very excited about, but for us it is like the easter bunny, halloween, and the tooth fairy, not real but a harmless and fun way to make a childhood special. It is nice to have these seemingly magical things for your children to use their imagination and be excited about, and I will do the same for my children.0
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I loved the whole ritual when my girls were younger. They all eventually learned there was no Santa. Nikki came to wife to tell her she knew there was no Santa. We told her to keep it to herself. She would continue to reap the "Santa Present" until her little sister, Tara, found out. Couple years later, Holland came along and we told Nikki and Tara the same thing regarding Holland. I knew it was all over with Holland when she substituted a glass of Knob Creek for Egg nog when whe left Santa's snack on the dining room table.0
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:laugh: Yea, exactly Patti. Buffy, I think you are giving the mind of an 8yo too much credit for thinking like an adult.Because when they realize that their parents were lying to them, it will make them question authority, and when they realize that the invisible man who always watches them and knows if they are good or bad is fictional, it will make them question religion. I want my future hypothetical children to always be curious and questioning.
Do you know anyone who was angry, hurt, or questioned authority after learning the truth behind the story of Santa?0 -
I loved the whole ritual when my girls were younger. They all eventually learned there was no Santa. Nikki came to wife to tell her she knew there was no Santa. We told her to keep it to herself. She would continue to reap the "Santa Present" until her little sister, Tara, found out. Couple years later, Holland came along and we told Nikki and Tara the same thing regarding Holland. I knew it was all over with Holland when she substituted a glass of Knob Creek for Egg nog when whe left Santa's snack on the dining room table. 0
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Because when they realize that their parents were lying to them, it will make them question authority, and when they realize that the invisible man who always watches them and knows if they are good or bad is fictional, it will make them question religion. I want my future hypothetical children to always be curious and questioning.
Do you know anyone who was angry, hurt, or questioned authority after learning the truth behind the story of Santa?
I wasn't angry or hurt, but I did question authority and religion after learning the truth about Santa. And so did several other people that I know. So... YES.0 -
I didn't question authority or religion or anything like that my main concern was.....................wait for it....................................do I still get presents? hahaha.0
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My older kids were a bit annoyed when they found out. Enough so that I debated telling the youngest. I did end up doing the santa thing with my youngest. If he is annoyed with me for a bit when he is 9 or 10 I can take it. I feel like he would really be missing out on the magic of Christmas if I didn't do the whole Santa thing.0
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I love Santa! My children will know him well.
I think that it will be really fun for them when they are younger, and it will help them learn to question authority and religion when they are older. No harm done.
how will it make them question authority and religion? i'm not saying it won't I just don't see how it will.
Because when they realize that their parents were lying to them, it will make them question authority, and when they realize that the invisible man who always watches them and knows if they are good or bad is fictional, it will make them question religion. I want my future hypothetical children to always be curious and questioning.
I have never heard someone look at it this way....I must say, that the "because they realize that their parents were lying to them...." Made me think, I will definitely have Santa in my children's lives as if he truely exists. I never want my children to think they can not trust what I say. Yes, I want them to think for themselves and not blindly follow anything (even me) but I want them to know that if I tell them something it is, to the best of my knowledge, true. but I do think that Santa as a historical figure and to teach about the joy of giving can be a good tool0 -
I wasn't angry or hurt, but I did question authority and religion after learning the truth about Santa. And so did several other people that I know. So... YES.
How did that questioning of authority and religion affect you? Did you start to question whether other things your parents were telling you were truths? Did you start thinking that God could be made up, too? (I'm asking these as sincere questions because I've never spoken to someone who had this experience after learning the truth behind Santa).0 -
I didn't question authority or religion or anything like that my main concern was.....................wait for it....................................do I still get presents? hahaha.
Same here, I think I found out the truth about santa before the first grade (my parents weren't very secretive), but I didn't tell them I knew until about the 5th grade when my older brother called me a "dumby" for not " knowing all ready". Needless to say, I still got presents that year. So all was well
I love telling little kids about Santa clause, and seeing the joy and innocence they exhibit when talking about him. Santa makes the holidays so much more fun and enjoyable! (Can you tell Christmas is my very time of year haha)
And for the kids that were questioning authority and religion, you must have been way too over-analytical. That never once crossed my mind at the age of 6, I don't think I had the mental capacity to comprehend that much !0 -
My older kids were a bit annoyed when they found out. Enough so that I debated telling the youngest. I did end up doing the santa thing with my youngest. If he is annoyed with me for a bit when he is 9 or 10 I can take it. I feel like he would really be missing out on the magic of Christmas if I didn't do the whole Santa thing.
Jesus was born of a virgin....doesn't get much more magical than that
I'm not critisizing, I totally get what you are saying and I know a lot of people who love Santa, it just made me laugh when I thought about a man coming down a chiminy vs. a boy born of a virgin0 -
I didn't question authority or religion or anything like that my main concern was.....................wait for it....................................do I still get presents? hahaha.
That was the concern for all of my children, too!0 -
My little girl found out the truth young. That's always a sad moment. Though it is nice to be the one who gets credit for all the gifts and wrapping and such.0
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I wasn't angry or hurt, but I did question authority and religion after learning the truth about Santa. And so did several other people that I know. So... YES.
How did that questioning of authority and religion affect you? Did you start to question whether other things your parents were telling you were truths? Did you start thinking that God could be made up, too? (I'm asking these as sincere questions because I've never spoken to someone who had this experience after learning the truth behind Santa).
After learning the truth about Santa whenever my parents said something fantastical, I questioned it. To me, it included god, jesus, and all of that, because it seemed simular. Like, in November and December when I misbehaved, it was "Santa is watching!" and the rest of the year it was "God is watching!" so for me they went hand in hand.0 -
You can also allow your children to experience Santa Claus without flat out lying to them. Once they're old enough to even question his existence, my answer was always, "Well, do YOU think there's a Santa"? I'd usually get the, "No. You and Dad are Santa". To which I'd reply, "Well, can't Santa just be the person who leaves you extra gifts at Christmas"? All of mine were quite willing to accept that and continue the tradition of Santa leaving them gifts!
Different, but same: We still have Easter egg hunts at my home. I put money in some of the eggs to entice the older ones to participate. Not an Easter goes by without my oldest (now 24) wanting to hunt for eggs the "Easter Bunny" left (he scored $24 last year).
You can make it fun without lying to them.0 -
My little girl found out the truth young. That's always a sad moment. Though it is nice to be the one who gets credit for all the gifts and wrapping and such.
True! Especially when "Santa" was leaving a really awesome gift!0 -
I believed until I was 12. Yep. And LOVED it. Admittedly I was quite upset and cried when I found out he wasn't real. Maybe I was just gullible or something, but my parents did a great job with Santa. We still do 'Santa' gifts, and of course my kids get excited about Santa.0
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I believed until I was 12. Yep. And LOVED it. Admittedly I was quite upset and cried when I found out he wasn't real. Maybe I was just gullible or something, but my parents did a great job with Santa. We still do 'Santa' gifts, and of course my kids get excited about Santa.
12???!!!! How in the world did you manage to keep away from other kids who like to be "informants" to others?0 -
I believed until I was 12. Yep. And LOVED it. Admittedly I was quite upset and cried when I found out he wasn't real. Maybe I was just gullible or something, but my parents did a great job with Santa. We still do 'Santa' gifts, and of course my kids get excited about Santa.
12???!!!! How in the world did you manage to keep away from other kids who like to be "informants" to others?
She must not have rode the bus to school. School buses are where Santa goes to die.0 -
I don't remember the moment I "learned" Santa wasn't real, but I do remember the disappointment I felt when my mom let me in on the fact that all of the Santa "evidence" left in our home was carefully crafted by her and my dad. (Sooty fingerprints on the mug of milk, a bite taken from a cookie, etc.) She tried to make it as though I was the special older sister who would help her keep the secret from my younger sister and brother, but I cannot keep a secret. I told them both. Neither was surprised or upset in any way.0
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I was a bit concerned about the whole "lying" thing too. Then I realized how ridiculous that is. I used to tickle my boys and "nom nom" on their bellies and tell them I was going to eat them up. They weren't traumatized when they found out I wasn't really going to eat them. I told them I was going to sell them to the gypsies. They never worried when the doorbell rang and didn't question religion when no gypsies ever showed up. I told them that I'm going to punch them in the head (they're older now. We joke around a lot.) They never doubted the political system because they didn't get hit. I've never known of a parent who always told the truth to their kids and I've never known of a child to have some sort of permanent scar because of it.0
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I believed until I was 12. Yep. And LOVED it. Admittedly I was quite upset and cried when I found out he wasn't real. Maybe I was just gullible or something, but my parents did a great job with Santa. We still do 'Santa' gifts, and of course my kids get excited about Santa.
12???!!!! How in the world did you manage to keep away from other kids who like to be "informants" to others?
She must not have rode the bus to school. School buses are where Santa goes to die.
LOL Kids tried to tell me that he wasn't real, but I didn't believe them. Like I said, my parents were incredibly convincing.
I didn't ride the bus until I was in middle school (I lived close to the elementary school so I walked).
*shrug* I'm not ashamed that I believed so long.0
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