Season 2 - Episode 13 - Beside the Dying Fire (03/18/12) Sea
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I just watched it online.
OMFG!
First 20 minutes or so; very much a "George Romero - Night of the Living Dead" feel to it.
The last 20 minutes or so?
Michonne!!!! The prison!!!!
Does anybody have a time machine I can borrow so I can zip forward to see Season 3 now?0 -
just thought I'd mention my legs are sore- so I must've been running from walkers in my sleep. lol seriously, it feels like I ran 5 miles...0
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I was so sad to see that Carol was still around at the end of the episode...she is worthless! I wasn't really a huge Andrea fan but she really held her own with kicking some zombie a**! I think I will be pulling for her a bit more now. Lori just pisses me off! WTH did she want Rick to do? She was the one saying Shane was dangerous and now she is acting all butt hurt? But I was kind of thinking it was because Carl was the one that ended zombie Shanes life she seemed to really flip when Rick told her that. All I know is this is going to be a very long 7 months until the new season!0
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Sometimes when Lori looked at Shane, I feel she was in love with him.0
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Entirely off the subject, but did you see the teasers for Mad Men comparing them to TWD... Very clever... I'm a Mad Men fan and excited to see it starting up, although it seems like forever since the last season.0
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The thing that made Shane so agressive was the Lori-virus, not the zombie virus.
AMEN!! She is a drama queen. I still say if she had handled that situation better it might not have turned so tragic!
Rick did sound like a douche but it's the pressure of the responsibility he has that is getting to him. I don't blame him either for keeping the "big secret". I would have wanted to see more proof myself before freaking everyone out!
You know, I know it wouldn't have been very screen worthy, and not to sound like a girly-man, but had the three of them sat down and just discussed it all and been as open as possible, I wonder how it would have turned out. They all had a history together before the zombie rise. What was really so wrong about Shane and Lori? They thought Rick was dead for crying out loud, I'm not sure what there had to be such a big secret. Shane's inability to let it go may still have gotten in the way.
Not sure about the whole talking thing but who knows, it should have been attempted. In the first episode when Shane and Rick were talking in the squad car I got the feeling there was something going on between Shane and whats her name then. It was no surprise that they hooked up after tshtf. Thats a broken mirror (hard to fix). Shane is a selfish guy so he only cared about what he wanted regardless of his friendship.
me and my sister always thought the way shane talked about her in the first episode sounded like he had feelings for her0 -
Does anybody have a time machine I can borrow so I can zip forward to see Season 3 now?
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Sometimes when Lori looked at Shane, I feel she was in love with him.
SAME! & with the way she reacted to Rick telling her what happened, I think that's why she was so upset, well, that along with Carl Killing the re-animated Shane.
/ I'm still in mourning for Shaney :sad: The "Here's what you missed last week" start of the episode where they showed it all happen again made me cry :yawn:0 -
Now that I've watched it (I crashed at 9pm on Sunday night)...
Lori only seemed to get visibly upset after Rick said it was Carl to take Shane down. I'm hoping she's upset because of her child and what Carl had to do.
I'm surprised Carol didn't get eaten by a zombie, the way she was halfass running, arms flailing. I was on her side until this episode though. (Us Carols have to stick together.) But her wanting a "Man of Honor" really pissed me off. And her telling Daryl they're just holding him back. And then telling Rick to "do something." grrrr
Rick could have found a better way to break it to the group about his killing Shane. He's left out important details. Without all the facts, I don't see people understanding his reasoning the way they might if they had all the information.
I LOVE how Glenn stepped up and challenged Rick about it not being his call to make for the group. The look on his face was priceless...like all the puppy love for Rick has just vanished. And telling Maggie, finding a way to both be honest and calm her down at the same time. Touching.
But this Michonne character. I don't know anything about the comics. But this chick looks so badass. I foresee lots of lusting over her from myself. Daryl's mega hot, but I think I might have a new love...0 -
Now that I've watched it (I crashed at 9pm on Sunday night)...
Lori only seemed to get visibly upset after Rick said it was Carl to take Shane down. I'm hoping she's upset because of her child and what Carl had to do.
I'm surprised Carol didn't get eaten by a zombie, the way she was halfass running, arms flailing. I was on her side until this episode though. (Us Carols have to stick together.) But her wanting a "Man of Honor" really pissed me off. And her telling Daryl they're just holding him back. And then telling Rick to "do something." grrrr
Rick could have found a better way to break it to the group about his killing Shane. He's left out important details. Without all the facts, I don't see people understanding his reasoning the way they might if they had all the information.
I LOVE how Glenn stepped up and challenged Rick about it not being his call to make for the group. The look on his face was priceless...like all the puppy love for Rick has just vanished. And telling Maggie, finding a way to both be honest and calm her down at the same time. Touching.
But this Michonne character. I don't know anything about the comics. But this chick looks so badass. I foresee lots of lusting over her from myself. Daryl's mega hot, but I think I might have a new love...
I just don't get Lori at all. I agree with some of the others she may have not been in love with Rick anymore even before all this happened and that Shane already had feelings for her based on the conversation the two men had in the squad car at the beginning of the series.
I think that while the rest of the group might have been shocked, Herschel and Daryl seemed to already have a good idea of what was going down out there with Rick and Shane. Daryl found the walker that Shane had killed and knew he had lied to lure them all out to the woods...
Carol was pretty helpless and hopeless this episode. That man of honor crap was total sh@t and Daryl stood up for Rick immediately. MIchonne is mind blowing. Finally, someone for Daryl!! I hope they get together and don't get pitted against each other
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Now that I've watched it (I crashed at 9pm on Sunday night)...
Lori only seemed to get visibly upset after Rick said it was Carl to take Shane down. I'm hoping she's upset because of her child and what Carl had to do.
I'm surprised Carol didn't get eaten by a zombie, the way she was halfass running, arms flailing. I was on her side until this episode though. (Us Carols have to stick together.) But her wanting a "Man of Honor" really pissed me off. And her telling Daryl they're just holding him back. And then telling Rick to "do something." grrrr
Rick could have found a better way to break it to the group about his killing Shane. He's left out important details. Without all the facts, I don't see people understanding his reasoning the way they might if they had all the information.
I LOVE how Glenn stepped up and challenged Rick about it not being his call to make for the group. The look on his face was priceless...like all the puppy love for Rick has just vanished. And telling Maggie, finding a way to both be honest and calm her down at the same time. Touching.
But this Michonne character. I don't know anything about the comics. But this chick looks so badass. I foresee lots of lusting over her from myself. Daryl's mega hot, but I think I might have a new love...
I just don't get Lori at all. I agree with some of the others she may have not been in love with Rick anymore even before all this happened and that Shane already had feelings for her based on the conversation the two men had in the squad car at the beginning of the series.
I think that while the rest of the group might have been shocked, Herschel and Daryl seemed to already have a good idea of what was going down out there with Rick and Shane. Daryl found the walker that Shane had killed and knew he had lied to lure them all out to the woods...
Carol was pretty helpless and hopeless this episode. That man of honor crap was total sh@t and Daryl stood up for Rick immediately. MIchonne is mind blowing. Finally, someone for Daryl!! I hope they get together and don't get pitted against each other PLEASE let this happen!
I just started reading the graphic novels and am on the second one. And she is even worse in the books!
ps. Can they please feed her a sandwich so that she can start to look pregnant? Or did the whole farm (aka season) happen in a week?0 -
LOL Yep even Lori's skinniness is annoying! She's a wafer!0
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LOL Yep even Lori's skinniness is annoying! She's a wafer!
Very accurate for a zombie apocalypse though, along with their dirty skin & greasy hair.
I don't think she looks as bad as some people think, but she's definitely skinnier than when she was in Prison Break.0 -
LOL Yep even Lori's skinniness is annoying! She's a wafer!
Very accurate for a zombie apocalypse though, along with their dirty skin & greasy hair.
I don't think she looks as bad as some people think, but she's definitely skinnier than when she was in Prison Break.
I totally loved her on Prison Break! You're right, she wasn't nearly that thin on that show.0 -
I too loved Prison Break - I miss Wentworth Miller- he's so hot! Maybe he can get cast on this show?! lol0
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It was an AMAZING season finale! I agree that Rick should have worded his killing of Shane differently but damn, the man hasn't slept in how long?!
The only thing that really pisses me off is making us wait SEVEN months for season 3! That's cruel and unusual punishment!!0 -
It was an AMAZING season finale! I agree that Rick should have worded his killing of Shane differently but damn, the man hasn't slept in how long?!
The only thing that really pisses me off is making us wait SEVEN months for season 3! That's cruel and unusual punishment!!
i agree a lot of the issue was the way he said it but you are right he never sleeps lmao
its going to be a long 7 months between that and waiting for american horror story i guess i need to just catch up on my grimm shows lmaoNow that I've watched it (I crashed at 9pm on Sunday night)...
Lori only seemed to get visibly upset after Rick said it was Carl to take Shane down. I'm hoping she's upset because of her child and what Carl had to do.
I'm surprised Carol didn't get eaten by a zombie, the way she was halfass running, arms flailing. I was on her side until this episode though. (Us Carols have to stick together.) But her wanting a "Man of Honor" really pissed me off. And her telling Daryl they're just holding him back. And then telling Rick to "do something." grrrr
Rick could have found a better way to break it to the group about his killing Shane. He's left out important details. Without all the facts, I don't see people understanding his reasoning the way they might if they had all the information.
I LOVE how Glenn stepped up and challenged Rick about it not being his call to make for the group. The look on his face was priceless...like all the puppy love for Rick has just vanished. And telling Maggie, finding a way to both be honest and calm her down at the same time. Touching.
But this Michonne character. I don't know anything about the comics. But this chick looks so badass. I foresee lots of lusting over her from myself. Daryl's mega hot, but I think I might have a new love...
I just don't get Lori at all. I agree with some of the others she may have not been in love with Rick anymore even before all this happened and that Shane already had feelings for her based on the conversation the two men had in the squad car at the beginning of the series.
I think that while the rest of the group might have been shocked, Herschel and Daryl seemed to already have a good idea of what was going down out there with Rick and Shane. Daryl found the walker that Shane had killed and knew he had lied to lure them all out to the woods...
Carol was pretty helpless and hopeless this episode. That man of honor crap was total sh@t and Daryl stood up for Rick immediately. MIchonne is mind blowing. Finally, someone for Daryl!! I hope they get together and don't get pitted against each other PLEASE let this happen!
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thats cause hershel and daryl are the only people there that can see past things and not believe everything people said to them lmao they knew shane was no good lmao
i def think shane loved her or had feelings for her before the apocalypse thats what my sister thought and i did to when we watched the 1st episode!
I also think Lori got more mad when he said carl was the one who shot shane (my sister thought it too) she never took her hands fully off him until then and her face turned white when he said that then took her hands off of him.0 -
Rick probably broke it to them that way because they were all *****ing at him that they should go run off into the night, blah blah blah and he was like DAYUM! STFU! I'm keeping us safe! He should have flipped and told the whole story though. Shane was dangerous. Shane thinks the baby is his. Shane wants Lori and Carl to himself. Shane killed that kid (his name escapes me) and then his crazy *kitten* ran into a tree to make it look like he got punched. THEN he lured Rick into the woods to shoot him! How could anyone be pissed about that!?
I watched the episode again last night and Carol.....I just want to punch her! I'd rather have Jimmy on the show than Carol. Waste of space.0 -
Towards the second to last episode, I was thinking that Shane was kind of accepting the fact that he would never have Lori and Carl, but I felt that it was after Lori talked to him that he flipped.0
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Towards the second to last episode, I was thinking that Shane was kind of accepting the fact that he would never have Lori and Carl, but I felt that it was after Lori talked to him that he flipped.
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My question is...what if everyone would've just got up and left after Rick's big RICKTATORSHIP speech? I bet that dumb look he gets on his face would've came back instantly.0
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I was not happy with the way it ended. I thought only 30 minutes had passed! For me, it just didn't read as a suspenseful ending. Plus, unlike the majority, I was definitely unhappy with Rick's speech. I couldn't stand Shane, and Rick turning into Shane is NOT a good character development. However, I think most of his speech stemmed from stress and guilt over Shane's death. He wasn't trying to convince them of Shane's duplicity; he was trying to convince himself. So, I'm giving him a lot of slack on that last speech.
The most worthless character is definitely Carol, like everyone has already stated. At no time has she ever done anything remarkable, with the tiny exception of saying she missed her vibrator in season 1, and bashing her dead husband's brains in. She's been not only worthless, but boring. I wish Dale had survived and she had been eaten. I loved him so much, and Rick could have really used Dale's support now. I think Hershel is also fairly worthless. I've never been a fan of his, and him wanting Rick to leave the highway when his own daughters were MIA pissed me off. "Rick, you need to take care of your son, but screw whatever has happened to my own daughters." Unlike Carl, they may be adults, but in that world, you'd think family would always come first, even over the man Hershel is clearly hero-worshipping. So I'm all about zombies eating Carol and Hershel.
I've been a huge Darryl fan for a long time now, and I like that he's supporting Rick. I really hope his character has more chances to grow. I also wish they'd develop T-Dogg's character. He was so special in season 1 with the whole conflict between him and Merl, then he's basically dropped off the radar. There is a triangle that still has a lot of room for growth. I still hope they bring back Merl; I loved to hate him.
As far as I'm concerned they can get rid of Carl anytime. I still blame him for Dale's death, and he acts too much like Shane. Lori... Not a hater like most, but wasn't happy with her this time either, though if my husband would have kept such a secret from me as the Jenner into, I would have been PISSED. She was still supportive of him until he told her about Shane, which he did badly, then ended with Carl being the one to put Shane down when he rose up again. She's also under a ton of stress, and clearly her dominant personality forced T-Dogg to go back, so I still don't see her as the wimp everyone else sees. She has flaws, but is much more likable than stupid Carol.
As for Andrea... I have hated her since her sister died, and she redeemed herself a little when she finally backed Dale, but this past episode, I was so rooting for her. She is tough, and I'm glad she made it. Maybe she and Darryl could become friendly? I know nothing about the Michonne character you've all mentioned, but I call the hooded character with chained zombies freaky! Hope she turns out to be on the humans' side, as most of you are saying.
Sad I have to wait so long for the series, but bought the first four books and will be doing some reading between now and then!0 -
Andrea and Lori definitely have issues, I mean I know that Lori was mad at Andrea for not helping out with the "women's duties" and that seemed sort of sexist - like Andrea learning to shoot and defend herself/others was something ALL of the women should be doing, but weren't. You can't be wimpy around zombies, and unable to defend yourself = Carol. Otherwise you'll be eaten...not quite sure why Carol's narrowly escaped this?! lol0
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Andrea and Lori definitely have issues, I mean I know that Lori was mad at Andrea for not helping out with the "women's duties" and that seemed sort of sexist - like Andrea learning to shoot and defend herself/others was something ALL of the women should be doing, but weren't. You can't be wimpy around zombies, and unable to defend yourself = Carol. Otherwise you'll be eaten...not quite sure why Carol's narrowly escaped this?! lol
I agree with this... I was wondering why the women (Lori/Carol) weren't training a little harder to defend themselves. Seems dumb individually and as a group to have such weak links.0 -
I agree that everyone needs to be able to pull their own weight when it comes to defense. I was trying to remember if I had ever seen Carol holding a gun? NOT learning how to shoot a gun, swing a bat or use a bow and arrow seems kind of dumb to me regardless if your man or woman.0
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I too loved Prison Break - I miss Wentworth Miller- he's so hot! Maybe he can get cast on this show?! lol
That would be AHMAZING!
He got so fat in season four of PB! Glad he lost it all, I got a PB poster over my bed :laugh:0 -
This is my favourite Lori meme.0 -
The only thing about all of this that I wished to see, was that much like in the webisodes, a two hour full length description of the actual 'day' itself, when everything went to hell. I watched all episodes and I still don't think they touched on what REALLY turned the world...0
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I totally agree with you. I remember saying to my friends that I would be cool with Carl getting bit and I am not at all thrilled with the two trained zombies with the missing arms at the end with the girl. If you think about it, thats TOO advanced. In reality, for the first 2 years the world would be to preoccupied with trying to survive, finding food, permanent shelter, finding loved ones, seeking medical help etc. to be able to train and make zombies adapt. What's up with that? If this involves a government program that is responsible for the apocolypse and they have been working on this for years, I can understand that. As far as T-Dog is concerned, I can see the producers downplaying certain characters because maybe their next on the menu, think about Sophia. Her role was all background the entire time. Shane was so out of control that we all knew that it was a matter of time for him anyway. The story that I would love to see? Remember the father and son in the first season? I want to see Rick finally make contact but in this case, the other little boy 'Carl' would be turned. I said this not because of a dislike for all 'Carl's' (lol) but because that kid had big eyes and I visualized him being a walker and how creepy he would end up looking.0
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