Jillian Micheals advice - rant
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Jillian Micheals just posted this on her Facebook page:
"Weight loss tip - So many people come up to me and tell me they can’t lose weight and yet, I haven’t ever met a person I can’t take weight off. You're not counting calories. Forget all the fad diets for a moment and just focus on the basics. Weight loss will always require burning more calories than you take in. Calories in versus calories out. If you're trying to lose weight I recommend 1200 cals a day for a woman & 1400 cals a day for a man. Only exception is green veggies. Eat as many greens as you want, but make sure they aren’t cooked in a fattening sauce. Don’t get hamstrung by fads like avoiding carbs or grains, going raw, and so on. It’s perfectly healthy to eat carbs, fat, and protein as long as they are not overly processed and loaded with chemicals like trans fats, artificial sweeteners, flavors and colors, hfcs, and so on. Eat real food with calorie control and you can’t go wrong."
This obviously has some great advice in it, however I feel like her followers are being lead down the wrong path with her advice on calorie intake. She mentions nothing about increasing calories for high calorie burns, etc. Those that take this advice are obviously netting below 1200/1400 calories if that is all they are consuming and then exercising. I understand that she has a business and those that follow her advice MUST lose weight or she would not have a business. However, I feel like this advice could lead many of her followers into yo-yo dieting for life trying to accomplish weight loss.
Anyway, this is just a rant. I read her post on my lunch break and it got me heated for a few minutes.
"Weight loss tip - So many people come up to me and tell me they can’t lose weight and yet, I haven’t ever met a person I can’t take weight off. You're not counting calories. Forget all the fad diets for a moment and just focus on the basics. Weight loss will always require burning more calories than you take in. Calories in versus calories out. If you're trying to lose weight I recommend 1200 cals a day for a woman & 1400 cals a day for a man. Only exception is green veggies. Eat as many greens as you want, but make sure they aren’t cooked in a fattening sauce. Don’t get hamstrung by fads like avoiding carbs or grains, going raw, and so on. It’s perfectly healthy to eat carbs, fat, and protein as long as they are not overly processed and loaded with chemicals like trans fats, artificial sweeteners, flavors and colors, hfcs, and so on. Eat real food with calorie control and you can’t go wrong."
This obviously has some great advice in it, however I feel like her followers are being lead down the wrong path with her advice on calorie intake. She mentions nothing about increasing calories for high calorie burns, etc. Those that take this advice are obviously netting below 1200/1400 calories if that is all they are consuming and then exercising. I understand that she has a business and those that follow her advice MUST lose weight or she would not have a business. However, I feel like this advice could lead many of her followers into yo-yo dieting for life trying to accomplish weight loss.
Anyway, this is just a rant. I read her post on my lunch break and it got me heated for a few minutes.
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Ever since Jillian started selling fat burners/diet pills I wrote her off. It made me a little sad too!0
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I know. I'm really surprised she would advocate for people eating lower than 1200 calories. But she's always been about quick results, like you see on the Biggest Loser. I love her DVD's and many of her recipes are delicious but her overall eating plans are for the birds.0
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I just saw this, too. It pissed me off. Which sucks, because I really like Jillian. :frown:0
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Wow. That is sad. I'm sure so many people are going to follow that advice. Of course I guess if they yo-yo they have to keep buying her workouts. Repeat business...0
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Haha I just posted about this in one of the groups I'm a member in. There were around 8,000 likes and almost 600 comments (most in agreement, I read them all) on her status. It's frustrating to me that someone who has such an influence on people would give this kind of advice.
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I just posted about this in the other thread in the group, but MAN, this drives me crazy!!!! That's why it gets embedded in our head, when we see people that we "trust" lead us in wayward directions like that, then we have to "de-program" ourselves when it all blows up in our face ......grrrr :explode:
The other thread:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/573855-ladies-please-give-your-opinion-on-this0 -
The other annoying thing is that the 1200 number is completely arbitrary. It was concocted by the ACSM as the bare minimum a WOMAN needs to eat to get the minimum required nutrients from food to stave off disease. Its not a magical number or the beginning of starvation or anything else. Its what a consensus of people agreed was a minimum diet to get nutrients from real food.
To boot, men use this number too- and the same guidelines that established the 1200 for women established 1800 cals as the minimum for men, but you never hear men using 1800 as their minimum. I guess its just not sexy enough.
I wish more people would do a little research as to where the generally accepted "rules of thumb" came from, it makes them a lot less magical.0 -
I was with her right up to the point that she suggested 1200 for women and 1400 for men... that's stupidly low! I guess if you lay in bed all day that might be ok! I agree with the part about counting calories (obviously, that's why I'm on MFP) and I don't think enough people count their calories, but I don't think much of her recommended intakes. I still loose 1/2 per week by eating 1800, and that's not counting any exercise! Of course, I'm not trying to lose it fast.0
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This bugs me too- but I am glad I know better now! I love her workouts and just finished her No More Trouble Zones a few minutes ago with heavy weights- awesome.
I cant believe she would recommend 1400 calories for anyone. I am eating 1750-2200 and honestly, some days, I could eat more!
There is so much marketing involved with these celebrities- it's all business/ money making. I will keep working out to her DVD's but her diet advice sucks.0 -
Amen!! I didn't start losing until I increased my calories! You've got to eat to lose!!0
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Sorry didn't realize there were two threads about this exact topic. haha
I am so happy that I found all you ladies that agree with me on this and can get mad right along with me when we read something like this. I just hate it for all those women/men that have no other source of knowledge besides what they hear from mainstream fitness experts...because this is the advice they will get!
I have mentioned this before...but I was very discouraged when I got Chalean Extreme and was recommended 1400 calories with no mention of net calories, etc and it is a heavy lifting program. I LOVE CLX and plan to finish it, but I have not stuck to her recommendation for intake.0 -
I can't even describe the level of disgust, professional disgust, that I have toward her now.
I don't know her personally so will not remark on her personal life, feelings etc- I can stand up and say she is harming millions of Mothers, Grandmothers, Sisters, Fathers, Sons and brothers- I cannot support her or any BL's products. I won't have the institution of starvation get any of my money. I can't physically stomach the thought.0 -
I always look at it like a drug dealer. 1200 cals is the "crack" people can continue to promote/sell us, because it "works" .....at first. Then, long after it stops working, we will just keep going, and going with it, seeking that first "high"....
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I just saw it too and had to comment, what a ridiculous blanket statement for her to make0
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I know. I'm really surprised she would advocate for people eating lower than 1200 calories. But she's always been about quick results, like you see on the Biggest Loser. I love her DVD's and many of her recipes are delicious but her overall eating plans are for the birds.
Amen to that! I am doing her Body Revolution series and am loving it but not her eating plan.
I would like to add this to what everyone else is saying: Just imagine the NET of the Biggest Loser folks who are working out all day!! They HAVE to be in "negative NET" territory!! I BET they need "medical supervision"!0 -
I always look at it like a drug dealer. 1200 cals is the "crack" people can continue to promote/sell us, because it "works" .....at first. Then, long after it stops working, we will just keep going, and going with it, seeking that first "high"....
so sad......
The truest statement EVER!!!
Thank you girls, for not only going against the "party line" but for providing us with the detailed information needed for us to succeed!!0 -
I posted about this today, as well! Jillian Michaels, I am disappointed. You can't tell me she eats 1200. She has to be eating much more to feed those muscles.. No wonder we all think we need to starve to be healthy... 0
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I always look at it like a drug dealer. 1200 cals is the "crack" people can continue to promote/sell us, because it "works" .....at first. Then, long after it stops working, we will just keep going, and going with it, seeking that first "high"....
so sad......
That has got to be the best analogy I have EVER heard!!!! uh, read!0 -
In her book "Master your Metabolism" she talks about how she used to obsess over every calorie and ate 1200 calories. Then she found out her metabolism was screwed up and she now eats 2000 a day. How could she then turn around and recommend 1200 calories to others? So they can f up their metabolism too? *head desk*I posted about this today, as well! Jillian Michaels, I am disappointed. You can't tell me she eats 1200. She has to be eating much more to feed those muscles.. No wonder we all think we need to starve to be healthy...0 -
In her book "Master your Metabolism" she talks about how she used to obsess over every calorie and ate 1200 calories. Then she found out her metabolism was screwed up and she now eats 2000 a day. How could she then turn around and recommend 1200 calories to others? So they can f up their metabolism too? *head desk*I posted about this today, as well! Jillian Michaels, I am disappointed. You can't tell me she eats 1200. She has to be eating much more to feed those muscles.. No wonder we all think we need to starve to be healthy...
OMG! not cool, jillian. that's seriously deceptive. she is so clearly in it for the money and not actually helping people lose weight and MAINTAIN.0 -
Imagine what she could do by telling the truth. I love her Body Rev and 30DS. When I read the meal plan for Body Rev I was shocked. How many women out there are killing themselves doing this system, expecting to look like her while eating like a bird? Irresponsible. There is nothing about educating yourself or even trusting your own judgement if you feel like you're running on nothing. Just eat some celery...if you're feeling kind of splurgy you could go nuts and eat some BROCCOLI! WTH kind of life is that? You want to teach us how to exercise? Wonderful. You got that nailed. If you're not willing to put the power to properly care for ourselves into the hands of the people buying your way of life then stick to the jumping jacks. Defer the rest to an actual nutritionist who's as passionate about teaching people to eat well as you are about HIIT.0
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Imagine what she could do by telling the truth. I love her Body Rev and 30DS. When I read the meal plan for Body Rev I was shocked. How many women out there are killing themselves doing this system, expecting to look like her while eating like a bird? Irresponsible. There is nothing about educating yourself or even trusting your own judgement if you feel like you're running on nothing. Just eat some celery...if you're feeling kind of splurgy you could go nuts and eat some BROCCOLI! WTH kind of life is that? You want to teach us how to exercise? Wonderful. You got that nailed. If you're not willing to put the power to properly care for ourselves into the hands of the people buying your way of life then stick to the jumping jacks. Defer the rest to an actual nutritionist who's as passionate about teaching people to eat well as you are about HIIT.
^^^^^^^^^ You rock. Well said.0 -
I posted about this today, as well! Jillian Michaels, I am disappointed. You can't tell me she eats 1200. She has to be eating much more to feed those muscles.. No wonder we all think we need to starve to be healthy...
^^ this is the part that disgusts me most!!! SHe HAS to know better.
Its as if the mainstream fitness world has decided that we are all in this for the short term, so they preach as if there is only one way to lose weight and neglect to inform the necessity of food. Workout, but don't eat! It seems so ridiculous now...hindsight is 20/20! Thank good was there are some critical thinkers in the world who challenge that "norm!"0 -
In her book "Master your Metabolism" she talks about how she used to obsess over every calorie and ate 1200 calories. Then she found out her metabolism was screwed up and she now eats 2000 a day.I posted about this today, as well! Jillian Michaels, I am disappointed. You can't tell me she eats 1200. She has to be eating much more to feed those muscles.. No wonder we all think we need to starve to be healthy...
wow. Not cool.0 -
Forget all the fad diets for a moment and just focus on the basics
Sounds Like Jillian has forgotten she is nothing more than a Fad diet herself..0 -
i haven't watched or read too much about Jillian, but i have seen that she advises around 1500 for women when they are doing her workouts or other semi-strenuous workouts. i've come across this advice of hers in a handful of 'fitness' type magazines, etc. what she seemed to have put on her FB page didn't take into account (or mention) adding in exercise.0
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I think maybe she didn't write that all that well and we might have misunderstood her. I listen to her podcast quite a bit and usually she is talking about NET calories. Maybe she just forgot to write NET or thought it would be too long to explain what that means, it was a Facebook status update after all.
Not that I'm trying to defend Jillian. Just saying...0 -
I think maybe she didn't write that all that well and we might have misunderstood her. I listen to her podcast quite a bit and usually she is talking about NET calories. Maybe she just forgot to write NET or thought it would be too long to explain what that means, it was a Facebook status update after all.
Not that I'm trying to defend Jillian. Just saying...
I am a fan of Jillian's and therefore would like to give benefit of the doubt...however, she got TONS of comments questioning her status and asking about net calories and going below your BMR etc...and she did not take the time to reply. I know she is one busy lady but when you post advice on your Facebook and get that many questions you should address them. I know she has done that in the past. I don't listen to her podcasts so I have no idea what she says in them, but I hope she does address net calories in them.
In my opinion someone that is most known for her workouts and not necessarily for her nutritional advice she should ALWAYS address net calories because those following her advice are more then likely using her workouts or have in the past.0
