50 Shades of Grey
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I do not buy the whole "I don't want my tax dollars funding this" argument, because some people obviously due. It's a library, libraries contain books, some we will like, some we will not. Paying taxes, even if it is a majority does not constitute the right to restrict anyone elses decision to read a certain book. I do now like any type of censorship. Usually if it is the TV or the Radio, I tell a person to turn the channel. If it is something like music or a DVD, I believe it is up to the parents to monitor what their children spend their money on.
But since this is a public library and their is no monetary exchange a parent can monitor as easily, we need to rate the books. It would be easy, I'm guessing. You take the modern movie rating system and transer it to literature. If G, PG, PG-13, R, MA or NC-17, and XXX. All ratings are perfectly transferable. If the book describes mention sex..pg-13. If if describes sex in a way that body parts including a womans breasts look and feel, R. If the book is just one sexcapade after another with little story other than story just to fill between the sex scenes, MA. If the book describes the act of sex in anyway other than in a medical or educational way, describes every thrust and the size, shape, and actions of the genitals graphically, make it XXX.
Put everything above PG 13 in a restriced isle or area of the library and require 18 year olds with ID be the only ones to check it out. Then, if a kid wants to read Game of Thrones (which I love and would let my teen read), it would be my responsiblity to get it for them.
There you go, no ban, no restriction on adults reading, and just the minor inconvience of actually being involved in what our children do with their free time.0 -
I think all books I deem not proper literature should be banned and burned. ;-)0
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I've thoroughly enjoyed reading this
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You can do that in a public library???!!! That's nuts.Besides, if public libraries are places where people can use the internet to watch porn, then banning a BOOK seems a bit silly.0 -
We could do a study on how many divorces are between couples who one or both members watch porn.People are so down on extramarital affairs and why marriages die - maybe they need porn? :laugh:0 -
We could do a study on how many divorces are between couples who one or both members watch porn.People are so down on extramarital affairs and why marriages die - maybe they need porn? :laugh:
Porn saved my marriage.0 -
I'm just being snarky because you can't make the claim that porn saves marriages (although maybe it did yours). I'm sure plenty of divorced couples were into porn.Porn saved my marriage.0 -
Shows how long since I've been to a public library, but is this not already being done? That would be crazy to me to think a kid could just walk in and check out an R or MA book.But since this is a public library and their is no monetary exchange a parent can monitor as easily, we need to rate the books. It would be easy, I'm guessing. You take the modern movie rating system and transer it to literature. If G, PG, PG-13, R, MA or NC-17, and XXX. All ratings are perfectly transferable. If the book describes mention sex..pg-13. If if describes sex in a way that body parts including a womans breasts look and feel, R. If the book is just one sexcapade after another with little story other than story just to fill between the sex scenes, MA. If the book describes the act of sex in anyway other than in a medical or educational way, describes every thrust and the size, shape, and actions of the genitals graphically, make it XXX.0 -
We could do a study on how many divorces are between couples who one or both members watch porn.People are so down on extramarital affairs and why marriages die - maybe they need porn? :laugh:
Notice the laughy face? I didn't say porn could save ALL marriages. I was pointing out that it could help one, and by doing that it would have a purpose and be needed by someone. Simply saying that just because you, or even most people, find porn to have no benefit doesn't mean it doesn't to someone.0 -
I'm just being snarky because you can't make the claim that porn saves marriages (although maybe it did yours). I'm sure plenty of divorced couples were into porn.Porn saved my marriage.
I'm sure alot of things can destroy a marriage...porn included.0 -
Shows how long since I've been to a public library, but is this not already being done? That would be crazy to me to think a kid could just walk in and check out an R or MA book.But since this is a public library and their is no monetary exchange a parent can monitor as easily, we need to rate the books. It would be easy, I'm guessing. You take the modern movie rating system and transer it to literature. If G, PG, PG-13, R, MA or NC-17, and XXX. All ratings are perfectly transferable. If the book describes mention sex..pg-13. If if describes sex in a way that body parts including a womans breasts look and feel, R. If the book is just one sexcapade after another with little story other than story just to fill between the sex scenes, MA. If the book describes the act of sex in anyway other than in a medical or educational way, describes every thrust and the size, shape, and actions of the genitals graphically, make it XXX.
As far as I know, books are not rated.0 -
I was just being sarcastsic.Notice the laughy face? I didn't say porn could save ALL marriages. I was pointing out that it could help one, and by doing that it would have a purpose and be needed by someone. Simply saying that just because you, or even most people, find porn to have no benefit doesn't mean it doesn't to someone.0 -
"Censorship is declaring that a man may not have a steak because a baby can't chew it"
Samuel Langhorne Clemens0 -
"Censorship is declaring that a man may not have a steak because a baby can't chew it"
Samuel Langhorne Clemens
Nice. How about this one.
"Never touch a single sock next to a man's recliner." adrian_indy, 2012. Not sure how that is relevant, but oh well.0 -
Im currently on book 2 of 3 and i enjoy the book.
pornographic? i personally dont think so
should it be banned from a public library? no i dont think so
should parents monitor what their children are reading? yes
Though the content of the book is a bit erotic, I dont equate it to porn. AT ALL. Not even soft core porn.
and for the record, i am not a bored housewife.0 -
I was just being sarcastsic.Notice the laughy face? I didn't say porn could save ALL marriages. I was pointing out that it could help one, and by doing that it would have a purpose and be needed by someone. Simply saying that just because you, or even most people, find porn to have no benefit doesn't mean it doesn't to someone.
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Truth. I am friends with her on FB so I know!and for the record, i am not a bored housewife.
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If you're going to ban it, ban it because it's complete and utter junk. I read the original fanfiction and the first chapter of 50 Shades (exact same no matter what the author claims) and its sooooo bad it's not funny.
If we're banning porn Judy Blume needs to go too.0 -
I'm not sure if we're still talking about this specific book or not. I have granted that if this book isn't pornography, then I don't see why it should be banned in a public library. If it is pornography, like magazines and videos that are promoted as such, then it shouldn't be in a public library.Distrust anyone trying to control the information you are allowed access to. Or as Stephen King put it during a speech he gave at a Banned Books Week conference, "Any book that your parents or teachers tell you you can't read, go out and IMMEDIATELY get your hands on that book. That's where they're hiding all the information they don't want you to know."
I'm grateful to my parents for restricting what I could read at certain ages (and I just learned of a new one that my mom never let me read, and now thankful I didn't). Junk in, junk out.
I didn't say Flowers in the Attic was junk. I said it has explicit sex scenes in it and if we're going to ban 50, then Andrews should be banned as well. Most people would say Andrews should not be banned.
VC Andrews was a very good writer and her books were enjoyable. I'm glad I was never told I couldn't read something.
I agree and read Flowers in the Attic when I was in junior high - I wouldn't say it scarred me.
Another fantastic writer is Diana Gabaldon. If anyone has read any part of her Outlander series, there are some explicit sex scenes in there, but there is so, so much more than just that.
along with Laura K Hamilton......There are so many books out there with what could be considered questionable material, sexually explicit etc... It is a PUBLIC library funded by the PUBLIC. A wide variety of material needs to be stocked in order to keep the largest number of people with something to their liking. Just because you consider it porn doesn't make it porn.0 -
BAN ALL THE BOOKS!!!
Even Harry Potter has a random inference to beastiality (sp?) in it. It's in Goblet of Fire and I think again in Deathly Hallows.0 -
BAN ALL THE BOOKS!!!
Even Harry Potter has a random inference to beastiality (sp?) in it. It's in Goblet of Fire and I think again in Deathly Hallows.
I attended university in a fairly rural and uneducated part of the state. They had a book burning for Harry Potter. It was after the year 2000 and they had an actual book burning.0 -
BAN ALL THE BOOKS!!!
Even Harry Potter has a random inference to beastiality (sp?) in it. It's in Goblet of Fire and I think again in Deathly Hallows.
I attended university in a fairly rural and uneducated part of the state. They had a book burning for Harry Potter. It was after the year 2000 and they had an actual book burning.
Fahrenheit 451! I hate to say it but the way this world is headed it could happen.0 -
BAN ALL THE BOOKS!!!
Even Harry Potter has a random inference to beastiality (sp?) in it. It's in Goblet of Fire and I think again in Deathly Hallows.
I attended university in a fairly rural and uneducated part of the state. They had a book burning for Harry Potter. It was after the year 2000 and they had an actual book burning.
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Doesn't surprise me, what with all the devil worshipping in that series and all.BAN ALL THE BOOKS!!!
Even Harry Potter has a random inference to beastiality (sp?) in it. It's in Goblet of Fire and I think again in Deathly Hallows.
I attended university in a fairly rural and uneducated part of the state. They had a book burning for Harry Potter. It was after the year 2000 and they had an actual book burning.
That WAS devil worshipping, right?
But I'm not kidding about the beastiality thing. It's very subtle, though. Kids wouldn't get the reference.0
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