Amendment 1 in North Carolina

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  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Oh America! This is why in Canada, we have Catholic schools and Public schools.
    We do, too. I'm actually in favor of religion only being taught in private schools. I was just being sarcastic with the guy.
  • Roadie2000
    Roadie2000 Posts: 1,801 Member
    I still have yet to hear one good reason why gay marriage should be illegal.
  • Bahet
    Bahet Posts: 1,254 Member
    Quote mining much? :noway:
    Quote mining????
    Which countries have banned religion - I need to move there!
    Our country has banned religion in public schools, courthouses, etc. That was my point.
    No it hasn't. It's banned teaching the tenets and beliefs of only Christianity. But that's not the same as banning religion. My sons both learned about Muslim beliefs when studying the ME, Hindu beliefs when studying India, and a lot of Chrisitanity when studying the Roman Empire, the Crusades, etc. The fact that the 10 Commandments aren't posted in their hallway, they don't learn that the Christian God created the world in 7 days, or they aren't being told that if they don't accept Jesus they will burn in hell doesn't mean they aren't being taught about religions in schools.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    I still have yet to hear one good reason why gay marriage should be illegal.
    No one will come here to play........
  • Sockimobi
    Sockimobi Posts: 541
    Quote mining much? :noway:
    Quote mining????
    Which countries have banned religion - I need to move there!
    Our country has banned religion in public schools, courthouses, etc. That was my point.

    Yup. You quoted out of context.

    Oh I thought you meant religion had been banned entirely. Nevermind, I'll stay here for a while yet then :laugh:

    Anyway... off topic a bit, eh?
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    No it hasn't. It's banned teaching the tenets and beliefs of only Christianity. But that's not the same as banning religion. My sons both learned about Muslim beliefs when studying the ME, Hindu beliefs when studying India, and a lot of Chrisitanity when studying the Roman Empire, the Crusades, etc. The fact that the 10 Commandments aren't posted in their hallway, they don't learn that the Christian God created the world in 7 days, or they aren't being told that if they don't accept Jesus they will burn in hell doesn't mean they aren't being taught about religions in schools.
    Good grief, Bahet. I've addressed this a couple of times already. Let's try to have a debate about the issue instead of attacking Christianity. Shall we?
  • opus649
    opus649 Posts: 633 Member
    Yes, but not a pertinent one.

    As long as you would support a law to ban routine male circumcision, it's not pertinent.

    This whole line of debate began with the assertion, "If it doesn't affect you, get a life." Apparently you want to amend that sentiment to be, "if you are against something that doesn't affect you and causes no objective harm, get a life." I still say I'm entitled to be anti-Snooki...
  • opus649
    opus649 Posts: 633 Member
    I still have yet to hear one good reason why gay marriage should be illegal.

    I already answered this..... MAN ON DOG!!
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,331 Member
    I still have yet to hear one good reason why gay marriage should be illegal.

    because we all agree that it shouldn't be lol, No one with an opposing view wants to step up apparently lol I guess they are afraid of us ganging up on them. Now we are all having our own debates within this debate lol, interesting ones though
  • Sockimobi
    Sockimobi Posts: 541
    I can't follow this. It would be useful if usernames were linked to quotes, wouldn't it.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,384 Member
    Our country has banned religion in public schools, courthouses, etc. That was my point.
    And that's a bad thing? I think it's great. Now if we can just get religion out of Washington............:wink:


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  • Roadie2000
    Roadie2000 Posts: 1,801 Member
    Yes, but not a pertinent one.

    As long as you would support a law to ban routine male circumcision, it's not pertinent.

    This whole line of debate began with the assertion, "If it doesn't affect you, get a life." Apparently you want to amend that sentiment to be, "if you are against something that doesn't affect you and causes no objective harm, get a life." I still say I'm entitled to be anti-Snooki...
    You're taking something I said and mixing it up with something someone else said who was trying to defend the rationality. Fair enough, you are entitled to your opinions, but you are still stuck on comparing apples to oranges.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,384 Member
    I still have yet to hear one good reason why gay marriage should be illegal.
    I got it..................the toilet seat argument would become invalid.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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  • opus649
    opus649 Posts: 633 Member
    Yes, but not a pertinent one.

    As long as you would support a law to ban routine male circumcision, it's not pertinent.

    This whole line of debate began with the assertion, "If it doesn't affect you, get a life." Apparently you want to amend that sentiment to be, "if you are against something that doesn't affect you and causes no objective harm, get a life." I still say I'm entitled to be anti-Snooki...
    You're taking something I said and mixing it up with something someone else said who was trying to defend the rationality. Fair enough, you are entitled to your opinions, but you are still stuck on comparing apples to oranges.

    Yes, that other fella came to your defense.. admirably, I thought.

    So are you sticking with, "If you're against something that doesn't effect you, get a life." ??
  • katatak1
    katatak1 Posts: 261 Member
    I can't follow this. It would be useful if usernames were linked to quotes, wouldn't it.

    Yes, yes it would :D
  • Sockimobi
    Sockimobi Posts: 541
    I still have yet to hear one good reason why gay marriage should be illegal.
    I got it..................the toilet seat argument would become invalid.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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    Then I say all marriages should be gay ones!!! I'm sure people have lost teeth over the toilet seat argument!
  • escloflowneCHANGED
    escloflowneCHANGED Posts: 3,038 Member
    I still have yet to hear one good reason why gay marriage should be illegal.

    Because someone said that god said so! derp!
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,375 Member
    This is awesome, by the way

    (right click and select "view image" to see the full size)

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  • EmCarroll1990
    EmCarroll1990 Posts: 2,830 Member
    Elizabeth, I found that to be hilarious.
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,375 Member
    Elizabeth, I found that to be hilarious.

    It is awesome.

    Foamy's rant is also sufficiently awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KLMYaF_Xa8
  • opus649
    opus649 Posts: 633 Member
    To be fair to Dr. Laura, she never actually quoted Leviticus to support an anti-gay position.
  • iam_thatdude
    iam_thatdude Posts: 1,266 Member
    Im glad it didnt pass, as I do not believe the definition of marriage should be changed. That said I dont bdlive the the state should b in the marriage business.

    Im in favor of allowing for civil so that the gays an have full legal rights.

    The comments on this threadr as bigoted as u claim ur opponents to be....

    Think about that
  • Roadie2000
    Roadie2000 Posts: 1,801 Member
    Yes, but not a pertinent one.

    As long as you would support a law to ban routine male circumcision, it's not pertinent.

    This whole line of debate began with the assertion, "If it doesn't affect you, get a life." Apparently you want to amend that sentiment to be, "if you are against something that doesn't affect you and causes no objective harm, get a life." I still say I'm entitled to be anti-Snooki...
    You're taking something I said and mixing it up with something someone else said who was trying to defend the rationality. Fair enough, you are entitled to your opinions, but you are still stuck on comparing apples to oranges.

    Yes, that other fella came to your defense.. admirably, I thought.

    So are you sticking with, "If you're against something that doesn't effect you, get a life." ??
    Nah, I don't really see this discussion going anywhere. I've seen plenty of gay people live very happily together and seen plenty of married people get divorced. I for one have no problem with it. If it's against your religion or if you just think it's "icky" then that's your opinion, and I believer everyone is free to their opinion.
  • escloflowneCHANGED
    escloflowneCHANGED Posts: 3,038 Member
    Im glad it didnt pass, as I do not believe the definition of marriage should be changed. That said I dont bdlive the the state should b in the marriage business.

    Im in favor of allowing for civil so that the gays an have full legal rights.

    The comments on this threadr as bigoted as u claim ur opponents to be....

    Think about that

    Agreed! :drinker:

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    OMG this site annoys me with the resizing lol
  • iam_thatdude
    iam_thatdude Posts: 1,266 Member
    Is this really a debate thread or just a way to bash pplwho think differently?
  • katatak1
    katatak1 Posts: 261 Member
    Im glad it didnt pass, as I do not believe the definition of marriage should be changed. That said I dont bdlive the the state should b in the marriage business.

    Im in favor of allowing for civil so that the gays an have full legal rights.

    The comments on this threadr as bigoted as u claim ur opponents to be....

    Think about that

    The problem is that the law that was passed DID change the definition of marriage. It changed it to specifically say that it was between one man and one woman. The definition of marriage never said that before.

    Here's the definition of marriage: the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities. No mention of gender there.

    I'm glad you're in favor of civil unions, that's a good thing. Amendment 1 just made those constitutionally illegal. Passing this law didn't change the current rights of gays. It changed the rights of future gays by making gay marriage and civil unions harder to become allowable by law. Gays have never been able to be married in NC, this law just makes it even harder for that to ever change.

    May I ask why you are opposed to gay marriage? Also, why are you in favor of civil unions, but not marriage?
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
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    I could offer a counter to all of this, and I'm a Christian!
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Is this really a debate thread or just a way to bash pplwho think differently?
    No, really, we like to debate here. I think we can debate without bashing.
  • opus649
    opus649 Posts: 633 Member
    Yes, but not a pertinent one.

    As long as you would support a law to ban routine male circumcision, it's not pertinent.

    This whole line of debate began with the assertion, "If it doesn't affect you, get a life." Apparently you want to amend that sentiment to be, "if you are against something that doesn't affect you and causes no objective harm, get a life." I still say I'm entitled to be anti-Snooki...
    You're taking something I said and mixing it up with something someone else said who was trying to defend the rationality. Fair enough, you are entitled to your opinions, but you are still stuck on comparing apples to oranges.

    Yes, that other fella came to your defense.. admirably, I thought.

    So are you sticking with, "If you're against something that doesn't effect you, get a life." ??
    Nah, I don't really see this discussion going anywhere. I've seen plenty of gay people live very happily together and seen plenty of married people get divorced. I for one have no problem with it. If it's against your religion or if you just think it's "icky" then that's your opinion, and I believer everyone is free to their opinion.

    Are you somehow under the impression that I'm against gay marriage????
  • kapeluza
    kapeluza Posts: 3,434 Member
    Im glad it didnt pass, as I do not believe the definition of marriage should be changed. That said I dont bdlive the the state should b in the marriage business.

    Im in favor of allowing for civil so that the gays an have full legal rights.

    The comments on this threadr as bigoted as u claim ur opponents to be....

    Think about that

    Why do you think the definition of marriage shouldn't be changed?
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