Done with MMOs.. Anyone else?
contingencyplan
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I've come to the conclusion after playing both WoW and EVE Online that there simply is no way to experience endgame content in MMOs while maintaining a healthy, active lifestyle. There's really no way to participate in organized endgame group content when you play on a casual basis because it demands playing for hours in a single session and not having the ability to come and go as you please. Plus, the fact that 80% of playing any MMO is just a big massive grind/farm fest of repeating content over and over and over while trying to raise funds or acquire random drop gear that you NEED to progress further just totally killed it for me.
Spent over 3 years playing WoW and about 4 years playing EVE Online. No more. Sticking to FPS's and RTS's now, as well as more casual RPGs.
Spent over 3 years playing WoW and about 4 years playing EVE Online. No more. Sticking to FPS's and RTS's now, as well as more casual RPGs.
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that's the one thing I miss about Ultima Online, I wish there were more MMO's like Ultima where it was all about skill gain and stat gain from what professions you were doing, so you did not have to grind exp for leveling up, and sometimes you can just log in for an hour or two and explore a dungeon or craft some items and actually get social with others.
but I agree, I find myself losing interest more and more in MMORPGs (maybe gaming altogether), I try to level up more in real life right now, but I still love to play video games, I am just not as crazy stoked about it anymore,0 -
I played Dark Age of Camelot back in the day when it was kind of the de facto MMO and the first to offer a Realm vs. Realm based combat experience. I had about 2 years into that and I quit. Then I got hooked into WoW for maybe a year, never reached 60 on a character, and when they introduced the point system for killing people on the other side, I found myself constantly getting destroyed whenever I took a mount to a neutral city because I had built my guys on a PvP server without realizing what that would eventually mean. By the time they implemented character transfers to other servers, my son had been born and I had no time to play anymore anyway.
Since then I've tried a few F2P MMOs and even got caught up in Guild Wars for awhile, but they all get pretty boring to me after awhile. Having to depend on other players to get through certain content in addition to the constant grind just isn't my thing anymore. I've been playing a lot of Diablo 3 because, at least with certain characters, you can grind through to 60 pretty quick and easy solo'ing.0 -
This is why I stopped playing about a year ago. However, I plan on getting back into wow when the new expansion hits, but Im sure about a week after I max level ill be done again.0
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I am.
I think it's boring! Not because I have a vindetta against any games... Just not my thing anymore.
I regret the year sub I signed up for... thinking I'd be on forever and ever. oh well! Was fun while it lasted.0 -
I disagree. I work out 2 hours a day, I'm a SAHM mom to a 4 month old boy, with an insanely clean house and my fiance never has to cook and clean. Yet when he is home from work we spend our time together playing WoW and raiding Dragon Soul lol I really am not THAT epic. I use to still manage all of the above when I worked 8 hours a day. I'm just very good at time management I guess lol0
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I played Dark Age of Camelot back in the day when it was kind of the de facto MMO and the first to offer a Realm vs. Realm based combat experience. I had about 2 years into that and I quit. Then I got hooked into WoW for maybe a year, never
You had me at Dark Age of Camelot
. lol I played for like 8 years then went to Basic Training. Since then i've played very little. I have 2 toddlers, go to school full time, workout a lot and have to maintain a house. I miss RvR soooooooo much 0 -
I stopped playing WoW for the exact opposite reason. It was bothering how mind numbingly slow content is released for that game and I was constantly bored with nothing worthwhile to do. I switched back to Everquest, and should that bore me again I'll probably give up MMO's again because nothing else really peaks my interest.0
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DAOC was great for end-game raiding because you could just bring 200 of your closest friends (lol) and zerg all of the content without having to spend hours farming, etc. Back when the end-game was Trials of Atlantis I used to run a weekly raid through all of the "Master Level" raids, sequentially. I would regularly have 100-200 people tag along... it was usually pretty crazy.
I definitely miss RvR - I'm hoping that Guild Wars 2's WvW will scratch that itch a bit.
I'm with you though, I haven't "seriously" played an MMO in a few years now because I just don't have the time to devote to end-game content. I have, however, been playing LOTRO casually on a weekly basis. Free2Play is great, because you don't feel like you're wasting your money if you don't log in for a week or two.
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I heard Star Wars might go free to play?
I might pick it up if that's the case lol0 -
I could never get into themm because there is no ending. The game type is too repetitive for me.0
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I am still into MMO's but I agree about the end game content being almost impossible while keeping an active lifestyle. I have this really great guild clan that will run me with them when I can make it on. Power leveling FTW!0
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tbh id think both EVE and WOW are probably 2 of the best for casuals,
for eve, you just need to have a good crew behind you and group up.. albeit without that it'd be alot of grind to get what you need done..
but WoW is probably the most casual friendly game around, sure you wont be killing the huge raids with a loot system guild etc.. but with the added raid finder etc.. you can still "do it" all
i actually left as this came in (just as cata dropped) and imagine would have kept me closer to the game
im really looking forward to guild wars 2, especially the level scaling to zones so can ALWAYS kick it with my friends and not get left behind or "out level them"0 -
This is why I stopped playing about a year ago. However, I plan on getting back into wow when the new expansion hits, but Im sure about a week after I max level ill be done again.
This! I'd like to play MOP.0 -
I never got high enough level to do raiding, so it never was an issue. I generally stick with questing/dungeons, something where people won't get pissed at me for bailing on out of nowhere. I really like MMOs, but I don't have a lot of time for them because of school, work and family responsibilities. I save gaming for the evening after I'm done with my obligations. (Granted, I'm not in any MMOs right now for financial reasons, but that's beside the point.)0
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tbh id think both EVE and WOW are probably 2 of the best for casuals,
for eve, you just need to have a good crew behind you and group up.. albeit without that it'd be alot of grind to get what you need done..
but WoW is probably the most casual friendly game around, sure you wont be killing the huge raids with a loot system guild etc.. but with the added raid finder etc.. you can still "do it" all
i actually left as this came in (just as cata dropped) and imagine would have kept me closer to the game
im really looking forward to guild wars 2, especially the level scaling to zones so can ALWAYS kick it with my friends and not get left behind or "out level them"
I agree, I think wow is one of the most casual friendly games for end game content. I have never had to give up raiding to do this, I just had to give up all the alt playing. Raiding end game content (we're 7/8 hard modes, which yes, was much slower than people who play more than we do but we still got to do it) is totally possible -- we raid 2x a week for 3 hours each (Although right now its only 2 hours on tuesday and 3 on wed) and we have had no trouble making good progress. Raid extensions let you put in more direct hours on whatever fight you're working on and the VP/LFR system lets you get upgrades outside of raiding if you feel like slightly better gear would help you or you need to fast-gear up an alt to swap in.
You just need to find a raid schedule and group that works for you. And since 10 man is now the same loot as 25 you don't feel like you have to find 25 people to show up on time. (its reasonably easy to get 10 people to show up reliably on time, AND its easier to kick their butts when they screw something up)0 -
I've played 6 years of WoW ( 267 days /played on my hunter alone), Rift, Star Trek, Star Wars, Warhammer Online, Aion, etc and I think it's doable. Currently, I play WoW and Firefall with a huge list of other games that I rotate like LoL, D3, Minecraft, etc.
I just started playing WoW again after a 8 month hiatus (mainly getting burned out) but I exercise in the mornings and continue playing. I think it's completely doable. I think you can be a hardcore raider and do end game and have a healthy lifestyle on the side. I don't raid 3 hours/5days a week anymore but I do raid 1-2 hours 1-2 times a week. I used to be a hardcore raider back in BC/Vanilla/Wrath but I can't do that anymore. Now it's all about moderation and keeping a healthy balance between reaching my goal and not overdoing it.0 -
I've always been a strictly PvP player in MMOs. And the hard part to me was that you couldn't JUST PvP. You had to do SOME form of grinding to be able to keep at your PvP, whether it was acquiring new gear to stay competitive, or buying new ships in EVE. And I just never had the patience for it. EVE was the worst because you couldn't JUST go look for a fight. You could go hunting for hours and not find a single person who would engage you, unless they were baiting a trap for you. I got sick of going on 3+ hour roams that led to not finding anything.0
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I've always been a strictly PvP player in MMOs. And the hard part to me was that you couldn't JUST PvP. You had to do SOME form of grinding to be able to keep at your PvP, whether it was acquiring new gear to stay competitive, or buying new ships in EVE. And I just never had the patience for it. EVE was the worst because you couldn't JUST go look for a fight. You could go hunting for hours and not find a single person who would engage you, unless they were baiting a trap for you. I got sick of going on 3+ hour roams that led to not finding anything.
not that Wow PVP Is the best, but doesn't wow have some kind of pvp where you just get equal gear to everyone else and play the game for skill? I'm pretty sure they resolved that particular issue.0 -
I stopped a while back. I found that FPS's offer a better stop playing and go outside lifestyle.0
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I stopped a while back. I found that FPS's offer a better stop playing and go outside lifestyle.
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I've always been a strictly PvP player in MMOs. And the hard part to me was that you couldn't JUST PvP. You had to do SOME form of grinding to be able to keep at your PvP, whether it was acquiring new gear to stay competitive, or buying new ships in EVE. And I just never had the patience for it. EVE was the worst because you couldn't JUST go look for a fight. You could go hunting for hours and not find a single person who would engage you, unless they were baiting a trap for you. I got sick of going on 3+ hour roams that led to not finding anything.
not that Wow PVP Is the best, but doesn't wow have some kind of pvp where you just get equal gear to everyone else and play the game for skill? I'm pretty sure they resolved that particular issue.
I wouldn't know. I stopped back in BC days and sold my account. I got tired of the idea of gear based combat anyway. I never was comfortable with the fact that paper rock scissors > skill and gear > skill.0 -
I stopped playing WoW after Cataclysm was released--and as an aside, I will say I KNOW it contributed to my weight/laziness, but I've been gaming since I was a kid and been eating poorly for years, so it's not the ONLY factor--at that time, I had a pretty geared-out mage who I actually had (have) quite an emotional attachment to. I still keep in touch with so many friends I gained via that game, including my boyfriend, with whom I currently live... we met in an endgame raid guild. I picked up RIFT after giving up WoW, but dropped it soon after, and then went to SWTOR hoping it would be an amazing game since I'm a Star Wars nerd anyway... I loved, loved the storyline while leveling, but was thoroughly disappointed in endgame play and pretty much stopped logging in over the last month or so. My boyfriend still plays.
However, recently I picked up D3 and quickly realized that ALL OF MY REALID FRIENDS are available to talk to and it brought huge waves of nostalgia rushing back. I was a great raider, but I had so much more fun with the social aspect of WoW. I see now that I never really "gave it up" - I still have my FigurePrint sitting on my desk, I have WoW soundtracks on my iPod, and I still crack up anytime I hear clips from Illegal Danish pop on (also on my iPod). I've been seriously thinking about reinvesting in that game if only to play with friends again, but I'm afraid that the Cata world would throw me off... maybe nostalgia is the way to go?
Meh, in any event I think I'll always be a gamer. If Felicia Day can do it and look smokin' hot, so can I.0 -
Once a gamer, always a gamer. At least to some extent. Me and my fiance were laying in bed cracking WoW puns at each other the other night, so I really love that we have that in common, even if we ARE huge nerds because of it!0
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I've always been a strictly PvP player in MMOs. And the hard part to me was that you couldn't JUST PvP. You had to do SOME form of grinding to be able to keep at your PvP, whether it was acquiring new gear to stay competitive, or buying new ships in EVE. And I just never had the patience for it. EVE was the worst because you couldn't JUST go look for a fight. You could go hunting for hours and not find a single person who would engage you, unless they were baiting a trap for you. I got sick of going on 3+ hour roams that led to not finding anything.
not that Wow PVP Is the best, but doesn't wow have some kind of pvp where you just get equal gear to everyone else and play the game for skill? I'm pretty sure they resolved that particular issue.
I wouldn't know. I stopped back in BC days and sold my account. I got tired of the idea of gear based combat anyway. I never was comfortable with the fact that paper rock scissors > skill and gear > skill.
dude you need to get in GW2 asap..
PVP everyone is auto maxed level, and given exact same gear (upgrades from rewards are purely cosmetic) so its all down to how good you are with your class and build
and you can do this after doing litterally 10 mins MAX PVE, (you have to do the opening quest) and after that you need never PVE again (although you'd miss out on a blinder of a game from what ive played so far)0 -
not that Wow PVP Is the best, but doesn't wow have some kind of pvp where you just get equal gear to everyone else and play the game for skill? I'm pretty sure they resolved that particular issue.
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WoW PVP became stupid after they took away all the grinding needed and making it so no one needed to go out of cities. Unless they change it so cities no longer unflag pvp from you character WoW is dead for PVP. Nothing like going to EPL and instead of farming gold or rep for AD, I'd end up in a 20v20 world pvp war.0
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WoW PVP became stupid after they took away all the grinding needed and making it so no one needed to go out of cities. Unless they change it so cities no longer unflag pvp from you character WoW is dead for PVP. Nothing like going to EPL and instead of farming gold or rep for AD, I'd end up in a 20v20 world pvp war.
oh yeah miss this!! remember raids on westfall wehre the alliance would hide in the towers and try to take down the horde waves that came to kill all the npc's...those were good times!0 -
Everquest is still up? I may have to give it another try...I stopped playing WoW for the exact opposite reason. It was bothering how mind numbingly slow content is released for that game and I was constantly bored with nothing worthwhile to do. I switched back to Everquest, and should that bore me again I'll probably give up MMO's again because nothing else really peaks my interest.
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Everquest is still up? I may have to give it another try...I stopped playing WoW for the exact opposite reason. It was bothering how mind numbingly slow content is released for that game and I was constantly bored with nothing worthwhile to do. I switched back to Everquest, and should that bore me again I'll probably give up MMO's again because nothing else really peaks my interest.)
Not only is it still up (and producing expansions every year), you can now log in and play for free. There are restrictions of course. But more than allows you to jump back in and get the feel again.0 -
Played most MMO's myself, but now I only play LOTRO as I've a lifetime subscription to it and its fairly casual and solo player friendly. However, recently I loaded some old and unfinished games up on my PC and I'm finding them a nice change from the grind. I feel I'm actually getting somewhere. Currently playing Gabriel Knight 3, Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned.0
