Protein Requirements for Building Muscle??

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  • ZeroWoIf
    ZeroWoIf Posts: 588 Member
    I wouldn't follow any pro bodybuilder diet because of their "supplements". There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat.

    Agreed that the majority of you're food should be whole unprocessed foods. You can still fit "junk" foods into you're diet as long as they fit into cal/macro goals without negative consequences in regards to body composition.

    1. Why wouldn't you follow a pro bb diet? Being on gear demands their diets are 100% top notch. If you don't understand why that is then you have some reading to do. Most of those guys have professionals planning their diets anyway, and we're talking the best of the best, not joe shmoe from your local gym.

    2. Wrong. Go hit all your macros eating nothing candy bars for a month, then do it a month eating clean whole foods. Eating like crap makes you feel like crap and look like crap. If you don't understand that you need to read some basic books on dieting.

    People assume that gear will work without barely eating any food so go figure.There are many pros that make their meals on their own though. I seen a few videos of top pro's where they usually pull out pre-cooked food that they had prepared earlier in the week.

    You almost have to prepare stuff in advance. I know I'm not about to cook 2-3 times a day, I'd rather just make a few days worth of food in one shot lol. I think tupperware is the fine china of bodybuilding haha

    I personally wake up around Monday or so and I get those restaurant style metallic trays and I have about 3 of them. In one I cook chicken breast, the other one I cook beef, and the other one sweet potatoes or so. I cover them up in foil, and then I end up putting it in the refrigerator. Right now I am glad that I am cutting up because I'm eating less food. Then I boil pasta, and etc on the other end.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    I wouldn't follow any pro bodybuilder diet because of their "supplements". There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat.

    Agreed that the majority of you're food should be whole unprocessed foods. You can still fit "junk" foods into you're diet as long as they fit into cal/macro goals without negative consequences in regards to body composition.

    1. Why wouldn't you follow a pro bb diet? Being on gear demands their diets are 100% top notch. If you don't understand why that is then you have some reading to do. Most of those guys have professionals planning their diets anyway, and we're talking the best of the best, not joe shmoe from your local gym.

    2. Wrong. Go hit all your macros eating nothing candy bars for a month, then do it a month eating clean whole foods. Eating like crap makes you feel like crap and look like crap. If you don't understand that you need to read some basic books on dieting.

    1. How is following a diet of a pro bber who is on gear and most likely a whole lot bigger than you and trains differently going to be a good idea? brb need to eat 7000cals because Ronnie Coleman does.

    2. How can you hit you're macros eating nothing but candy bars?
  • waxon81
    waxon81 Posts: 198 Member
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    1. How is following a diet of a pro bber who is on gear and most likely a whole lot bigger than you and trains differently going to be a good idea? brb need to eat 7000cals because Ronnie Coleman does.

    2. How can you hit you're macros eating nothing but candy bars?
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    Lol at the candy bars, thats exactly what I thought

    In on brotein thread

    EVERYONE should read this thread......well... Assuming that the 'right' guys win this debate...
  • run2jeepn
    run2jeepn Posts: 183 Member
    Has no one every heard of a Pro Natural Body Builder? Not every Pro Body Builder is on Gear.

    http://www.naturalbodybuilding.com/index.php
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    You mean like these guys?

    http://www.facebook.com/flexforall

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/zipnguyen




    Ask them about you're 100% clean eating :laugh:
  • ouija86
    ouija86 Posts: 138 Member
    I wouldn't follow any pro bodybuilder diet because of their "supplements". There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat.

    Agreed that the majority of you're food should be whole unprocessed foods. You can still fit "junk" foods into you're diet as long as they fit into cal/macro goals without negative consequences in regards to body composition.

    1. Why wouldn't you follow a pro bb diet? Being on gear demands their diets are 100% top notch. If you don't understand why that is then you have some reading to do. Most of those guys have professionals planning their diets anyway, and we're talking the best of the best, not joe shmoe from your local gym.

    2. Wrong. Go hit all your macros eating nothing candy bars for a month, then do it a month eating clean whole foods. Eating like crap makes you feel like crap and look like crap. If you don't understand that you need to read some basic books on dieting.

    1. How is following a diet of a pro bber who is on gear and most likely a whole lot bigger than you and trains differently going to be a good idea? brb need to eat 7000cals because Ronnie Coleman does.

    2. How can you hit you're macros eating nothing but candy bars?

    What's the cal count got to do with it? The macro %'s are the same, and so are the food choices. And btw, it's called body BUILDING. You don't get big without eating big, period.

    And while it's impossible to hit your macros eating candybars, my point is that the type of you food you eat does make a difference. You're argument that "if it fits in your macros" it's ok is false. Sure, you might think fitting in a candy bar in your day is cool, but you're better off putting down something not made of crap.
  • MotorCityFemmeFatale
    MotorCityFemmeFatale Posts: 222 Member
    I wouldn't follow any pro bodybuilder diet because of their "supplements". There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat.

    Agreed that the majority of you're food should be whole unprocessed foods. You can still fit "junk" foods into you're diet as long as they fit into cal/macro goals without negative consequences in regards to body composition.

    1. Why wouldn't you follow a pro bb diet? Being on gear demands their diets are 100% top notch. If you don't understand why that is then you have some reading to do. Most of those guys have professionals planning their diets anyway, and we're talking the best of the best, not joe shmoe from your local gym.

    2. Wrong. Go hit all your macros eating nothing candy bars for a month, then do it a month eating clean whole foods. Eating like crap makes you feel like crap and look like crap. If you don't understand that you need to read some basic books on dieting.

    1. How is following a diet of a pro bber who is on gear and most likely a whole lot bigger than you and trains differently going to be a good idea? brb need to eat 7000cals because Ronnie Coleman does.

    2. How can you hit you're macros eating nothing but candy bars?

    What's the cal count got to do with it? The macro %'s are the same, and so are the food choices. And btw, it's called body BUILDING. You don't get big without eating big, period.

    And while it's impossible to hit your macros eating candybars, my point is that the type of you food you eat does make a difference. You're argument that "if it fits in your macros" it's ok is false. Sure, you might think fitting in a candy bar in your day is cool, but you're better off putting down something not made of crap.

    Agreed. Micro-nutrients are just as important to feed the machine properly.
  • ZeroWoIf
    ZeroWoIf Posts: 588 Member
    Has no one every heard of a Pro Natural Body Builder? Not every Pro Body Builder is on Gear.

    http://www.naturalbodybuilding.com/index.php

    Of course they exist dude. I mean is hard to imagine "natural" olympia is not on something lol.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    I wouldn't follow any pro bodybuilder diet because of their "supplements". There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat.

    Agreed that the majority of you're food should be whole unprocessed foods. You can still fit "junk" foods into you're diet as long as they fit into cal/macro goals without negative consequences in regards to body composition.

    1. Why wouldn't you follow a pro bb diet? Being on gear demands their diets are 100% top notch. If you don't understand why that is then you have some reading to do. Most of those guys have professionals planning their diets anyway, and we're talking the best of the best, not joe shmoe from your local gym.

    2. Wrong. Go hit all your macros eating nothing candy bars for a month, then do it a month eating clean whole foods. Eating like crap makes you feel like crap and look like crap. If you don't understand that you need to read some basic books on dieting.

    1. How is following a diet of a pro bber who is on gear and most likely a whole lot bigger than you and trains differently going to be a good idea? brb need to eat 7000cals because Ronnie Coleman does.

    2. How can you hit you're macros eating nothing but candy bars?

    What's the cal count got to do with it? The macro %'s are the same, and so are the food choices. And btw, it's called body BUILDING. You don't get big without eating big, period.

    And while it's impossible to hit your macros eating candybars, my point is that the type of you food you eat does make a difference. You're argument that "if it fits in your macros" it's ok is false. Sure, you might think fitting in a candy bar in your day is cool, but you're better off putting down something not made of crap.

    You have a clear misunderstanding of what IIFYM means. Have a read and get back to me. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=133634471
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member

    Agreed. Micro-nutrients are just as important to feed the machine properly.

    uhuh :smile: Have a read of the link I posted. IIFYM does not mean eating 100% junk foods that fit into you're macros which is what all the "clean eaters" seem to think.
  • ouija86
    ouija86 Posts: 138 Member

    Agreed. Micro-nutrients are just as important to feed the machine properly.

    uhuh :smile: Have a read of the link I posted. IIFYM does not mean eating 100% junk foods that fit into you're macros which is what all the "clean eaters" seem to think.

    Read the link. My statement still stands, you're better off eating clean foods rather than eating junk. I'm not sure why you keep trying to argue with that.

    I understand what you're saying, and I agree you can do it if you want, hell I'm doing it now. All I'm saying is you are better off with better food choices regardless of your goals.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member

    Agreed. Micro-nutrients are just as important to feed the machine properly.

    uhuh :smile: Have a read of the link I posted. IIFYM does not mean eating 100% junk foods that fit into you're macros which is what all the "clean eaters" seem to think.

    Read the link. My statement still stands, you're better off eating clean foods rather than eating junk. I'm not sure why you keep trying to argue with that.

    I understand what you're saying, and I agree you can do it if you want, hell I'm doing it now. All I'm saying is you are better off with better food choices regardless of your goals.

    This is entirely a matter of dosage and context, as are most discussions. This one is contains neither.