Tipping
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I don't doubt that it happens exactly as you say, Lour44. But if so, then I don't know why Appleby's (or the credit card company) bothers to have people sign the receipt when the restaurant is just going to enter the info it "knows" is correct and ignore the signed receipt.
The signature is for protection for the merchant and when there is an additional tip involved the cardholder is authorizing the addition to be added to the amount.0 -
I don't see how charging the woman's card a different amount from what she signed provides "protection for the merchant." But not worth quibbling about.
In any case, the very first time I signed one of those machines at the supermarket that digitizes my signature, the value of my signature as protection against anything went to zero.0 -
But, please proceed..........
As an athiest, I sign all my crappy tips with "I don't believe in an afterflife, so why should I care if I screw you over with a bad tip." Then if anyone says anything, I call them atheist bashers.
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This story is a great reason to resurrect this thread, at least for the moment. It's the perfect viral internet article--a relatively trivial incident that just happens to push peoples' buttons and so it erupts into a megastorm of outrage.
http://consumerist.com/2013/01/31/waitress-who-posted-no-tip-receipt-from-pastor-customer-fired-from-job/
Short version: a diner with a group of people at an Applebee's objected to the automatic 18% gratuity that is added to all checks for a large group. Being a minister, the woman wrote on the receipt "I give God 18%...why do you get 18?". She then scratched out the printed gratuity amount and wrote "0" on the tip line. (She claims she left the tip in cash anyway).
Another waitress--a friend of the one who was waiting on the minister--took a picture of the receipt and posted in on Reddit, along with details about the incident. She did not do a good enough job of hiding the signature on the receipt and soon everyone guessed the identity of the minister.
The minister contacted Applebee's and the waitress was fired. You should follow the link as it has video interviews with both of them and I think that adds a lot.
It just goes to show that, in this age of the internet, you never know when your random act of douchiness is going to be publicized all over the world. We are all just one You Tube video away from infamy......
OK....so she paid the person in cash which benefits the person. She wrote a message that contradicts her statement. She recanted the statement. Page four has a few views of how people feel about God/gods/mystic beings...whatever. How is the person, who tipped after all, in the wrong? Once again... me, former college waiter in NYC. Lasted 6 months. Decided to work at McDonalds for a couple of months that was steady income. Moved up the customer service ladder. My point is, what did said reverend do that makes her wrong? She tipped after all. If this discussion is about tipping, which she did regardless of what the message said, what's the point then?0 -
This story is a great reason to resurrect this thread, at least for the moment. It's the perfect viral internet article--a relatively trivial incident that just happens to push peoples' buttons and so it erupts into a megastorm of outrage.
http://consumerist.com/2013/01/31/waitress-who-posted-no-tip-receipt-from-pastor-customer-fired-from-job/
Short version: a diner with a group of people at an Applebee's objected to the automatic 18% gratuity that is added to all checks for a large group. Being a minister, the woman wrote on the receipt "I give God 18%...why do you get 18?". She then scratched out the printed gratuity amount and wrote "0" on the tip line. (She claims she left the tip in cash anyway).
Another waitress--a friend of the one who was waiting on the minister--took a picture of the receipt and posted in on Reddit, along with details about the incident. She did not do a good enough job of hiding the signature on the receipt and soon everyone guessed the identity of the minister.
The minister contacted Applebee's and the waitress was fired. You should follow the link as it has video interviews with both of them and I think that adds a lot.
It just goes to show that, in this age of the internet, you never know when your random act of douchiness is going to be publicized all over the world. We are all just one You Tube video away from infamy......
OK....so she paid the person in cash which benefits the person. She wrote a message that contradicts her statement. She recanted the statement. Page four has a few views of how people feel about God/gods/mystic beings...whatever. How is the person, who tipped after all, in the wrong? Once again... me, former college waiter in NYC. Lasted 6 months. Decided to work at McDonalds for a couple of months that was steady income. Moved up the customer service ladder. My point is, what did said reverend do that makes her wrong? She tipped after all. If this discussion is about tipping, which she did regardless of what the message said, what's the point then?
The pastor failed at Christlike behavior with her snarky note and her complaining over its publication that was far more about her concern for her reputation than with her own behavior.
That is my only issue with the situation. I had no issue with the server who posted the receipt being fired because of the bad position that put her employer in, even though I do understand the urge to shame Pastor Snarkypants.
I'm a misanthrope, I try to hate everyone equally, but I do admit to a burning and fiery hatred for two types of people in particular: Bullies and hypocrites. And I'd say this pastor was a bit of both. Customers often bully those who can't fight back by doing little crap like this. It's despicable. And she certainly was not acting in the manner her religion commands her to act in.0 -
FYI: When I waitressed in 2000, I was paid $2.75/hour. We were supposed to make the rest up in tips....but we never did because of cheap patrons who thought we were paid too much. I can't remember what minimum wage was 13 yrs ago, but it's $7.25 now. And I know for a fact that not every restaurant gives their employees minimum wage. And minimum wages earners in the US are at or below the poverty level. Tip the people who serve your food.0
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This story is a great reason to resurrect this thread, at least for the moment. It's the perfect viral internet article--a relatively trivial incident that just happens to push peoples' buttons and so it erupts into a megastorm of outrage.
http://consumerist.com/2013/01/31/waitress-who-posted-no-tip-receipt-from-pastor-customer-fired-from-job/
Short version: a diner with a group of people at an Applebee's objected to the automatic 18% gratuity that is added to all checks for a large group. Being a minister, the woman wrote on the receipt "I give God 18%...why do you get 18?". She then scratched out the printed gratuity amount and wrote "0" on the tip line. (She claims she left the tip in cash anyway).
Another waitress--a friend of the one who was waiting on the minister--took a picture of the receipt and posted in on Reddit, along with details about the incident. She did not do a good enough job of hiding the signature on the receipt and soon everyone guessed the identity of the minister.
The minister contacted Applebee's and the waitress was fired. You should follow the link as it has video interviews with both of them and I think that adds a lot.
It just goes to show that, in this age of the internet, you never know when your random act of douchiness is going to be publicized all over the world. We are all just one You Tube video away from infamy......
OK....so she paid the person in cash which benefits the person. She wrote a message that contradicts her statement. She recanted the statement. Page four has a few views of how people feel about God/gods/mystic beings...whatever. How is the person, who tipped after all, in the wrong? Once again... me, former college waiter in NYC. Lasted 6 months. Decided to work at McDonalds for a couple of months that was steady income. Moved up the customer service ladder. My point is, what did said reverend do that makes her wrong? She tipped after all. If this discussion is about tipping, which she did regardless of what the message said, what's the point then?
The pastor failed at Christlike behavior with her snarky note and her complaining over its publication that was far more about her concern for her reputation than with her own behavior.
That is my only issue with the situation. I had no issue with the server who posted the receipt being fired because of the bad position that put her employer in, even though I do understand the urge to shame Pastor Snarkypants.
I'm a misanthrope, I try to hate everyone equally, but I do admit to a burning and fiery hatred for two types of people in particular: Bullies and hypocrites. And I'd say this pastor was a bit of both. Customers often bully those who can't fight back by doing little crap like this. It's despicable. And she certainly was not acting in the manner her religion commands her to act in.
Just want to point out that the waitress did not deliberately "out" the pastor. She wanted to post the check as just an example of the crap that waitstaff have to put up with, but thought she had obscured the name (according to the original account I read). She didn't do a good enough job and people in the town were able to piece together the evidence and determine the identity.0
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