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I am so disappointed I missed out on the evolution discussion 8(
I am also starting to wonder if everyone though my first response was serious.
Jump on in!!
I'm a bit surprised no-one jumped in on that, as well :laugh: Go on, then...tell us what you really can't live with/without!
OK, I'll bite on this. I just don't want to start a Creationism v. Evolution Theory here.
Humans as we know it have been on this planet for roughly 50,000 years. In that time, we've evolved to be fairly shrewd creatures. Hence, here we are, right at the top of food chain (woot woot!).
In order to evolve, we instinctively want each generation to be bigger, stronger, smarter, and faster. This is done through selective reproduction. Women look for certain characteristics in a male (muscular, tall, etc) in order to guarantee the survival of their offspring and push the human race further. Men do the same thing when they want to find a women to procreate with, they seek a partner who's tone, has large breasts, child bearing hips, etc.
The dynamics of sexual intercourse plays right into this too. Women get attached after sex because they want their partner to stick around help raise their young. The exact opposite happens to men, their first instinct is to run the opposite way and find a new partner. Hence, "spreading their seed" to find more partners to secure them having offspring. The reason men fall asleep right after sex is another product of evolution, they can't run far if they fall right asleep. lol.
Therefore when I see a man or woman who has a laundry list of physical requirements they want in a partner, I always hear them out. **They are simply doing what they are biologically programmed to do since they were born.** For instance, one non-negotiable for me is that my partner is tan. Being tan is simply a build-up a melanin in the skin to protect them against the sun. It instinctively tells me that my partner can survive in the sun if need be. Maybe this is why I'm naturally drawn to Spanish women?0 -
I am so disappointed I missed out on the evolution discussion 8(
I am also starting to wonder if everyone though my first response was serious.
Jump on in!!
I'm a bit surprised no-one jumped in on that, as well :laugh: Go on, then...tell us what you really can't live with/without!
OK, I'll bite on this. I just don't want to start a Creationism v. Evolution Theory here.
Humans as we know it have been on this planet for roughly 50,000 years. In that time, we've evolved to be fairly shrewd creatures. Hence, here we are, right at the top of food chain (woot woot!).
In order to evolve, we instinctively want each generation to be bigger, stronger, smarter, and faster. This is done through selective reproduction. Women look for certain characteristics in a male (muscular, tall, etc) in order to guarantee the survival of their offspring and push the human race further. Men do the same thing when they want to find a women to procreate with, they seek a partner who's tone, has large breasts, child bearing hips, etc.
The dynamics of sexual intercourse plays right into this too. Women get attached after sex because they want their partner to stick around help raise their young. The exact opposite happens to men, their first instinct is to run the opposite way and find a new partner. Hence, "spreading their seed" to find more partners to secure them having offspring. The reason men fall asleep right after sex is another product of evolution, they can't run far if they fall right asleep. lol.
Therefore when I see a man or woman who has a laundry list of physical requirements they want in a partner, I always hear them out. **They are simply doing what they are biologically programmed to do since they were born.** For instance, one non-negotiable for me is that my partner is tan. Being tan is simply a build-up a melanin in the skin to protect them against the sun. It instinctively tells me that my partner can survive in the sun if need be. Maybe this is why I'm naturally drawn to Spanish women?
Two points to contest:
1) The tone part is only in western cultures and developed countries. In poorer cultures men will gravitate to women with a little more meat on their bones as they are deemed to be able to withstand poor conditions better then skinner women are.
2) Tan. You are looking for someone that is naturally darker not someone that is light skinned, or of northern European decent, because whiter skin is actually more healthily for people of that decent. If you find tanned natural blonde they are more likely to get skin cancer and actually less healthy then if they had pale skin.
I am not saying anything against your personal preferences just the generalization that evolution would result in this.0 -
I am so disappointed I missed out on the evolution discussion 8(
I am also starting to wonder if everyone though my first response was serious.
Jump on in!!
I'm a bit surprised no-one jumped in on that, as well :laugh: Go on, then...tell us what you really can't live with/without!
OK, I'll bite on this. I just don't want to start a Creationism v. Evolution Theory here.
Humans as we know it have been on this planet for roughly 50,000 years. In that time, we've evolved to be fairly shrewd creatures. Hence, here we are, right at the top of food chain (woot woot!).
In order to evolve, we instinctively want each generation to be bigger, stronger, smarter, and faster. This is done through selective reproduction. Women look for certain characteristics in a male (muscular, tall, etc) in order to guarantee the survival of their offspring and push the human race further. Men do the same thing when they want to find a women to procreate with, they seek a partner who's tone, has large breasts, child bearing hips, etc.
The dynamics of sexual intercourse plays right into this too. Women get attached after sex because they want their partner to stick around help raise their young. The exact opposite happens to men, their first instinct is to run the opposite way and find a new partner. Hence, "spreading their seed" to find more partners to secure them having offspring. The reason men fall asleep right after sex is another product of evolution, they can't run far if they fall right asleep. lol.
Therefore when I see a man or woman who has a laundry list of physical requirements they want in a partner, I always hear them out. **They are simply doing what they are biologically programmed to do since they were born.** For instance, one non-negotiable for me is that my partner is tan. Being tan is simply a build-up a melanin in the skin to protect them against the sun. It instinctively tells me that my partner can survive in the sun if need be. Maybe this is why I'm naturally drawn to Spanish women?
Two points to contest:
1) The tone part is only in western cultures and developed countries. In poorer cultures men will gravitate to women with a little more meat on their bones as they are deemed to be able to withstand poor conditions better then skinner women are.
2) Tan. You are looking for someone that is naturally darker not someone that is light skinned, or of northern European decent, because whiter skin is actually more healthily for people of that decent. If you find tanned natural blonde they are more likely to get skin cancer and actually less healthy then if they had pale skin.
I am not saying anything against your personal preferences just the generalization that evolution would result in this.
Agreeing with both amendments above. I know a few natural blondes who tan easily/well, but not many! Perhaps you are genetically most compatible with someone of a darker or more olive skintone, Mike. Judging from your profile pic, you have a more olive-toned colouring yourself, so it would make sense! My understanding is that we are fairly well-programmed to select mates with characteristics that complement our own inherent traits, in order to create attractive offspring.
No intent to create a Creationist/Evolution thread at all - it's just interesting and sometimes enlightening to consider how our genetic background, and evolutionary imperatives, impact on our choices and actions.0 -
Agreeing with both amendments above. Perhaps you are genetically most compatible with someone of a darker or more olive skintone, Mike. Judging from your profile pic, you have a more olive-toned colouring yourself, so it would make sense!
No intent to create a Creationist/Evolution thread at all - it's just interesting and sometimes enlightening to consider how our genetic background, and evolutionary imperatives, impact on our choices and actions.
Sounds about right, castadiva.
However, I've gotten reamed out after saying that I look for a partner who's tan, slim, healthy sized breasts, thigh gap, etc. It's my natural instinct to be very attracted to women that possess these physical attributes.0 -
Agreeing with both amendments above. Perhaps you are genetically most compatible with someone of a darker or more olive skintone, Mike. Judging from your profile pic, you have a more olive-toned colouring yourself, so it would make sense!
No intent to create a Creationist/Evolution thread at all - it's just interesting and sometimes enlightening to consider how our genetic background, and evolutionary imperatives, impact on our choices and actions.
Sounds about right, castadiva.
However, I've gotten reamed out after saying that I look for a partner who's tan, slim, healthy sized breasts, thigh gap, etc. It's my natural instinct to be very attracted to women that possess these physical attributes.
Whether it's your natural instinct or something driven by cultural conditioning is highly debateable. Men all over the world have highly variable standards of beauty. Hell, men I know personally have highly variable standards for all of the things you just mentioned. They are all products of the same basic evolutionary processes, so why the variation in preferences? I'm going to go with culture here. Not that there's anything wrong with preferences, just that I don't think wanting a "thigh gap" is the product of millions of years of evolution.0 -
Agreeing with both amendments above. Perhaps you are genetically most compatible with someone of a darker or more olive skintone, Mike. Judging from your profile pic, you have a more olive-toned colouring yourself, so it would make sense!
No intent to create a Creationist/Evolution thread at all - it's just interesting and sometimes enlightening to consider how our genetic background, and evolutionary imperatives, impact on our choices and actions.
Sounds about right, castadiva.
However, I've gotten reamed out after saying that I look for a partner who's tan, slim, healthy sized breasts, thigh gap, etc. It's my natural instinct to be very attracted to women that possess these physical attributes.
Oh, I know you did. May I gently suggest that the reason you got jumped on was because your list was almost exclusively physical, with a little about social and financial status, and I don't recall it making any reference to any characteristics of personality, intellect or character. Forgive me if you did, and I have forgotten, but much as men say they don't wish to be appreciated solely for their protector/provider characteristics, women generally don't appreciate being considered solely as physical objects to enhance a man's social standing and/or sexual satisfaction...It's the Barbie-doll factor. We aren't Barbie, we have no wish to be Barbie (with one or two, psychologically-questionable exceptions), and we don't appreciate our finer qualities - the things that make us who we are (and I don't mean our cup size or our car) - being totally disregarded.
Women of the last few generations have been told repeatedly, and have proven, often against quite frightening odds, that we are more than just plastic dolls - decorations to be paraded. Our intrinsic worth is not dependent on our looks. We've fought for that, and lists like yours anger us, because we feel that all our efforts and overcome challenges have been for nothing. In short, a list of desirable attributes that focuses solely on a woman's physique/appearance and social/financial cachet, feels deeply disrespectful to many women.
Do you not desire and value honesty, strength of character, an interesting mind, a sense of humour in your future wife/partner? Are these not, beyond the immediate attraction level, of equal, or hopefully greater, import than a tan, a nice car, big breasts (whether by natural or other means)? Think beyond the immediate, add a few of these into your mental list, and I guarantee your pool of possibilities will be greater, and you won't be set-upon by outraged women in internet forums :laugh: . You might also end up in a happier relationship, and be less likely to be paying multiple sets of alimony, thirty years from now.
I have no problem recognising biological imperatives, though like pudadough, I would argue that a thigh-gap is more to do with cultural conditioning than a biological urge - if anything, the evolutionary imperative would be to seek out a woman with adequate flesh on her body to successfully carry/nourish children. There's a reason IVF/assisted reproduction is becoming so common, and it has a lot to do with unhealthy body ideals currently prevalent in the West, but that's a rant for another thread. My argument is that in a society that aims for long-term monogamy, rather than short-term procreative couplings, it is wiser to consider other elements as well as physical attraction to ensure that a marriage/partnership has a half a chance of making the grade, ideally happily.0 -
Agreeing with both amendments above. Perhaps you are genetically most compatible with someone of a darker or more olive skintone, Mike. Judging from your profile pic, you have a more olive-toned colouring yourself, so it would make sense!
No intent to create a Creationist/Evolution thread at all - it's just interesting and sometimes enlightening to consider how our genetic background, and evolutionary imperatives, impact on our choices and actions.
Sounds about right, castadiva.
However, I've gotten reamed out after saying that I look for a partner who's tan, slim, healthy sized breasts, thigh gap, etc. It's my natural instinct to be very attracted to women that possess these physical attributes.
I think you've gotten reamed out because no where in that is anything about personality. Just looks. Frankly it's shallow.
Don't get me started on being tan...so unhealthy if its natural and not spray on!!0 -
Agreeing with both amendments above. Perhaps you are genetically most compatible with someone of a darker or more olive skintone, Mike. Judging from your profile pic, you have a more olive-toned colouring yourself, so it would make sense!
No intent to create a Creationist/Evolution thread at all - it's just interesting and sometimes enlightening to consider how our genetic background, and evolutionary imperatives, impact on our choices and actions.
Sounds about right, castadiva.
However, I've gotten reamed out after saying that I look for a partner who's tan, slim, healthy sized breasts, thigh gap, etc. It's my natural instinct to be very attracted to women that possess these physical attributes.
I think you've gotten reamed out because no where in that is anything about personality. Just looks. Frankly it's shallow.
Don't get me started on being tan...so unhealthy if its natural and not spray on!!
Keep in mind, shortly after it was clearly stated that developing inner happiness was the worst advice ever. That was where it got really bad.0 -
Shopping list: intelligent, funny, hardworking, non-smoking, appreciative of life, Sporty, a good dresser,can cook bacon properly, Is ambitious, does not want children anytime soon, is 5"10 , brunette with blue eyes and has a nice figure, has a good sex drive and lives in the UK.0
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Agreeing with both amendments above. Perhaps you are genetically most compatible with someone of a darker or more olive skintone, Mike. Judging from your profile pic, you have a more olive-toned colouring yourself, so it would make sense!
No intent to create a Creationist/Evolution thread at all - it's just interesting and sometimes enlightening to consider how our genetic background, and evolutionary imperatives, impact on our choices and actions.
Sounds about right, castadiva.
However, I've gotten reamed out after saying that I look for a partner who's tan, slim, healthy sized breasts, thigh gap, etc. It's my natural instinct to be very attracted to women that possess these physical attributes.
I think you've gotten reamed out because no where in that is anything about personality. Just looks. Frankly it's shallow.
Don't get me started on being tan...so unhealthy if its natural and not spray on!!
Keep in mind, shortly after it was clearly stated that developing inner happiness was the worst advice ever. That was where it got really bad.
And also the big boobs were only okay if fake.0 -
Regardless what one thinks of anyones opinions we need to keep it factual and I do not believe anything like that was ever said.
If I am wrong will gladly stand corrected.
Lets everybody try to keep this topic on track with the intent of the OP.0 -
My list is a little lengthy because I haven't had a reason to drop things from it. Here's my list, in no particular order, and I'm sure I'll think of more things to add later when I can't edit it anymore.
Physical traits
- must not be repulsive looking to me in any way when we meet. Preferably, he will have at least one feature I find attractive.
- height preferably between 5' 10" and 6' 2", but 4 inches shorter is still acceptable. I'm 5' 6" and want someone at least as tall as me.
- weight is flexible over a large range, except very overweight getting into morbidly obese
- hair and eye color are flexible, but I can't think of a redhead I've ever been attracted to
- age between -2 years to +7 years
Personality Must Haves
- sense of humor. If I don't laugh on our first meet, forget it.
- intelligence. I need someone who thinks about the world they live in and has thoughtful opinions.
- kind and courteous (and I'm not talking about holding the door open for me here.)
- depth. If he's not looking for someone beyond the superficial qualities and trappings of life, I'm not interested.
- positive outlook on life
- honesty
- communicative
- compassionate and supportive
Other
- Non-smoker (non-negotiable... trying to quit doesn't cut it!)
- Non-religious or not practicing
- must want children
- not in debt and financially responsible
- Moderate political views or liberal leaning (my last BF is a very right-wing Republican and I'm Canadian, so we would have killed each other over "socialist" policies this election year if we were still together.)
- must have at least some college (I teach at a university and I need someone who gets what I do for a living.)
- must have a job that uses his brain, but he doesn't argue for a living (yes, that last BF is a lawyer - not doing that again!)
- must be stably employed and have some career ambitions (or achieved them already in his work)
- must enjoy what he does for a living (I'm not going to be around someone who hates their job and complains about it everyday and is just working for the weekend.)
- must have an awareness and interest in other places in the world and visiting them occasionally
- environmentally aware and recycles!
- No animal rights activists or people opposed to scientific research on animals or GMOs (I'm a biologist!)
and since this is MFP...
- must be interested in eating healthy most meals of the week
- must be interested in losing weight if currently overweight, and actively working at it.
I would love it if he had similar interests in movies, TV and music as me, but I haven't had much luck in finding someone who matches me totally here. As long as we can watch a movie together that we both might like from time to time, I'll enjoy my music in the car by myself.
It's a long list, but it's easy to find men in my age range that fit the list with one exception - the wanting children part - but that's to be expected because of my age range and something that I'm inflexible on as that is a higher priority for me than finding a partner.0 -
Regardless what one thinks of anyones opinions we need to keep it factual and I do not believe anything like that was ever said.
If I am wrong will gladly stand corrected.
Lets everybody try to keep this topic on track with the intent of the OP.
For my snarky comment. I was referring to this direct quote. Page 1 of "How long is too long"
To the OP: It can be very hard to do, but if you can change your mindset from feeling bad about your situation to finding things you that make you happy now, it will open up many new outlets for you! :flowerforyou:
This is the worst advice I've ever seen on here. She can change her mindset, but that won't attract a higher quality of man. It's that type of nonsensical advice that drives me up the wall.
The rest is from the same page, same thread.What's so wrong with re-inventing yourself? Get in shape, get a boob job, get a makeover, new clothes, nicer car, etc etc.. These will drastically improve any girls life.
and then finally, one of my favorites from page 2:You can't magically expect men to flock to you all because you have a positive outlook on life, that doesn't happen. You have to mix it up a bit to see what works for you. Start small by getting a makeover and work up from there. You'll get much better results than simply "changing your outlook".
Actual quotes. copy and pasted.0 -
Regardless what one thinks of anyones opinions we need to keep it factual and I do not believe anything like that was ever said.
If I am wrong will gladly stand corrected.
Lets everybody try to keep this topic on track with the intent of the OP.
For my snarky comment. I was referring to this direct quote. Page 1 of "How long is too long"
To the OP: It can be very hard to do, but if you can change your mindset from feeling bad about your situation to finding things you that make you happy now, it will open up many new outlets for you! :flowerforyou:
This is the worst advice I've ever seen on here. She can change her mindset, but that won't attract a higher quality of man. It's that type of nonsensical advice that drives me up the wall.
The rest is from the same page, same thread.What's so wrong with re-inventing yourself? Get in shape, get a boob job, get a makeover, new clothes, nicer car, etc etc.. These will drastically improve any girls life.
and then finally, one of my favorites from page 2:You can't magically expect men to flock to you all because you have a positive outlook on life, that doesn't happen. You have to mix it up a bit to see what works for you. Start small by getting a makeover and work up from there. You'll get much better results than simply "changing your outlook".
Actual quotes. copy and pasted.
But nowhere was it stated that he only likes big boobs if they were fake,that I did not see so if not a factual statement then it does nothing but add fuel to a fire and we all are better then that.
If I missed that statement then I will stand corrected but if just made up to exaggerate a point it is not productive.0 -
Agreeing with both amendments above. Perhaps you are genetically most compatible with someone of a darker or more olive skintone, Mike. Judging from your profile pic, you have a more olive-toned colouring yourself, so it would make sense!
No intent to create a Creationist/Evolution thread at all - it's just interesting and sometimes enlightening to consider how our genetic background, and evolutionary imperatives, impact on our choices and actions.
However, I've gotten reamed out after saying that I look for a partner who's tan, slim, healthy sized breasts, thigh gap, etc. It's my natural instinct to be very attracted to women that possess these physical attributes.
To say that the preference for a thigh gap, a tan, slim and huge breast are dictated to you by evolution is just nonsense! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Look, I would find such a lady hot myself (Western Europe). However, I doubt my friend the bushman tribesman would find that girl attractive (apart from the different complexion).
500 years ago, the thigh gap probably didn't exist as such. In the Middle Age, having shapes (i.e. not slim) was seen as beautiful (a rarity). Look at renaissance paintings. I don't see any thigh gaps, slim women here. More "round/shapely" women.
Yet, the species isn't extinct yet. Yet these women were considered as THE MOST desirable members of the species (physically).
Darker people generally prefer clearer tones of skin, while clearer people generally prefer darker tones of skin. Evolution doesn't happen on such a short period.
I think you people are giving way too much emphasis to the "evolution"/"genes compatibility" theories.
We're simply (all of us) victims of our society.
I myself like young, slim, tanned women with a thigh gap and big boobs, because I've been force fed with these images by our society. Do I feel guilty about it? No. I don't really care, not that I've any choice in my preferences now.
How about make up? How about lingerie? etc etc.0 -
Agreeing with both amendments above. Perhaps you are genetically most compatible with someone of a darker or more olive skintone, Mike. Judging from your profile pic, you have a more olive-toned colouring yourself, so it would make sense!
No intent to create a Creationist/Evolution thread at all - it's just interesting and sometimes enlightening to consider how our genetic background, and evolutionary imperatives, impact on our choices and actions.
However, I've gotten reamed out after saying that I look for a partner who's tan, slim, healthy sized breasts, thigh gap, etc. It's my natural instinct to be very attracted to women that possess these physical attributes.
To say that the preference for a thigh gap, a tan, slim and huge breast are dictated to you by evolution is just nonsense! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Look, I would find such a lady hot myself (Western Europe). However, I doubt my friend the bushman tribesman would find that girl attractive (apart from the different complexion).
500 years ago, the thigh gap probably didn't exist as such. In the Middle Age, having shapes (i.e. not slim) was seen as beautiful (a rarity). Look at renaissance paintings. I don't see any thigh gaps, slim women here. More "round/shapely" women.
Yet, the species isn't extinct yet. Yet these women were considered as THE MOST desirable members of the species (physically).
Darker people generally prefer clearer tones of skin, while clearer people generally prefer darker tones of skin. Evolution doesn't happen on such a short period.
I think you people are giving way too much emphasis to the "evolution"/"genes compatibility" theories.
We're simply (all of us) victims of our society.
I myself like young, slim, tanned women with a thigh gap and big boobs, because I've been force fed with these images by our society. Do I feel guilty about it? No. I don't really care, not that I've any choice in my preferences now.
How about make up? How about lingerie? etc etc.
If not for MFP I would have never heard or known of the term "thigh gap".:laugh:0 -
I was born in the wrong era. No thigh gap and I look like those paintings when nekkid. Le sigh.0
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I was born in the wrong era. No thigh gap and I look like those paintings when nekkid. Le sigh.
Me too but it hasnt stopped us from getting guys lol... Besides I like have the ability to speak my mind and we couldnt do that in that era0 -
I was born in the wrong era. No thigh gap and I look like those paintings when nekkid. Le sigh.
"Jenbit Du Bois Fleuri" and "La_Amazona De La Tour"?0 -
I was born in the wrong era. No thigh gap and I look like those paintings when nekkid. Le sigh.
"Jenbit Du Bois Fleuri" and "La_Amazona De La Tour"?
LOL I just spit ice on my computer screen :laugh:0 -
Musts:
Must do some type of training (lifting,running,yoga, etc.) it really doesn't matter what, it just such a big part of my life and what I enjoy talking about with others that I don't think we'd begin it off if she did nothing.
Must have a job. Don't want someone living with their patents getting an allowance.
Must have a car. Don't care what it is, I'm just not going to be your personal driver.
Must have plans for the future. If you work at hamburger king that's fine, but at least WANT something more.
No drunks/drug addicts. This one is a huge deal breaker. I've seen this rip people apart....if you do any drugs including weed or prescription narcotics no thank you.
Not too clingy. I have a mom, I don't need another one, I don't have to tell you exactly where I'm going at what time I'll be back. And I wouldn't ask those things of you.
Non-essential:
Loves doing adventurous things (sky diving, bungee jumping, mountain climbing. Etc.)
Loves animals.
Maybe I'm picky, but I'm certain when I find someone who fills these we will have a special relationship0 -
Born in December.
Lives in California.
Been to Chicago and NYC in August this year.
Gorgeous.
Smart
Affectionate
Loving.
Loyal
*School girl giggles :blushing:0 -
Musts:
Must do some type of training (lifting,running,yoga, etc.) it really doesn't matter what, it just such a big part of my life and what I enjoy talking about with others that I don't think we'd begin it off if she did nothing.
Must have a job. Don't want someone living with their patents getting an allowance.
Must have a car. Don't care what it is, I'm just not going to be your personal driver.
Must have plans for the future. If you work at hamburger king that's fine, but at least WANT something more.
No drunks/drug addicts. This one is a huge deal breaker. I've seen this rip people apart....if you do any drugs including weed or prescription narcotics no thank you.
Not too clingy. I have a mom, I don't need another one, I don't have to tell you exactly where I'm going at what time I'll be back. And I wouldn't ask those things of you.
Non-essential:
Loves doing adventurous things (sky diving, bungee jumping, mountain climbing. Etc.)
Loves animals.
Maybe I'm picky, but I'm certain when I find someone who fills these we will have a special relationship
I didn't think I'd say this in this thread.
I fit all that criteria. Heya. Hahahaaa0