Poor Self Esteem, Chasing After Hotties/Players

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  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
    My insecurities would tend to keep me away from the hotties rather than have me chasing them. If a guy that is super goodlooking talks to me, I always wonder about his motives. I can't fathom him wanting to date me. And most of the time now, they are young... so I just use that as an excuse to blow them off. Unless I just feel like flirting. Then, I flirt... knowing that's all it will be.

    If a man looks like he stepped off the pages of a magazine, I would never be comfortable dating him. I would always feel self-conscious.

    I'm with you on this one.

    Thirded. I might dream about Jon Hamm but if he was actually into me and wanted me...no can do.
  • pa_jorg
    pa_jorg Posts: 4,404 Member
    You do understand that men view sex with a good looking girl as being the ultimate experience. Most of us don't give a hoot about building a relationship, learning about someones "inner beauty", or any of that hogwash. We want SEX WITH A HOT BABE and lots of it.
    :noway: The problem is that you assume all men want exactly what you want and that is NOT true. I've known plenty of men who want the relationship AND the sex! I think perhaps this is a lesson you won't be willing to learn until you are a little older or more mature (not meant as a dig, just reality).
    No you guys have to fight to get women that are in your little checklist of what you consider hot. Most guys I know are 6's and are shooting for and asking out the 9 and 10s and ignore the 6 - 8s. It would be less of a fight for guys if they actually tried to go for someone in their same catergory. While most women have a wider range of what they are looking for looks wise. Yes we like guys taller then us but since most women are shorter then most men that doesn't eliminate the majority of guys. If a girl is a 7 she will more then likely go for a guy 5-9.
    Ruth is spot on here!!
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Wow.... you can find a way to make anything we do turn into an action based on shallow low self esteem reasons.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    also lmfao when a whole bunch of women tell a man that they know better what goes on in ALL men's heads than he does.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    also lmfao when a whole bunch of women tell a man that they know better what goes on in ALL men's heads than he does.

    Yoovie, it's quite the opposite. He's saying all men are the same and they don't give a flying *kitten* about personality as long as the lady is the finest "tail" he can land. Not only women are disagreeing with him and say some dudes care about who they are spending time with beyond how she looks on his arm. Carl spoke out against it too (basically everyone is telling Mike to stop acting like his perspective on life is the only one that is real and all women are whiny suckers). As far as the dominating female response, well, I mean look at how many women are on this site let alone in this group compared to men.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    Hey, I'm just keeping it real on here.

    I wouldn't consider this situation as a man being a "jerk". We are simply doing what we are biologically programmed to do. Which is have sex with many women to secure the passing down of our genes, preferable with a partner we are instinctively attracted to (big boobs, wide hips, healthy skin/hair, etc etc).

    I'm just saying, from a man's point of view, it seems that most women have it made in the shade. Whereas your average guy (i.e. me) has to fight for every decent piece of tail he can get.

    OK, Mike, you know I love you and harass you endlessly, but did you really just say you have to fight for every decent piece of TAIL? You really are a hot mess :laugh: Maybe you should go back to the free online dating sites..... tail is much easier to get there and you're not paying for it, HA!

    You're too kind NC :smile:

    The plight of the modern man is a daunting one. My life isn't a 24/7 orgy as most would think!

    I think you misspelled "dryspell". Odd.
  • NCTravellingGirl
    NCTravellingGirl Posts: 717 Member
    also lmfao when a whole bunch of women tell a man that they know better what goes on in ALL men's heads than he does.

    Yoovie, it's quite the opposite. He's saying all men are the same and they don't give a flying *kitten* about personality as long as the lady is the finest "tail" he can land. Not only women are disagreeing with him and say some dudes care about who they are spending time with beyond how she looks on his arm. Carl spoke out against it too (basically everyone is telling Mike to stop acting like his perspective on life is the only one that is real and all women are whiny suckers). As far as the dominating female response, well, I mean look at how many women are on this site let alone in this group compared to men.

    I'm going to agree with Yoovie on this one. Mike's perspective IS what a lot of men think. Maybe not all of course, there are exceptions. Carl happens to be one of them. I personally have run into more men like Mike than like Carl. Each of you may have had a different experience. We can argue with Mike all we want... it doesn't make his point less valid! It REALLY seems to bother a lot of women on these pages when Mike posts something they so vehemently disagree with...personally, I appreciate his honesty because there are plenty of guys who think that who DON'T SPEAK UP! I am not expecting to change him, haha....
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I'm just saying, from a man's point of view, it seems that most women have it made in the shade. Whereas your average guy (i.e. me) has to fight for every decent piece of tail he can get.

    True.

    It seems that way but I cant get laid to save my life. I will walk into a concert or a party or a bar even, with a killer outfit. I will mingle from group of people to group of people and say hello to everyone. I wont encapsule myself with girlfriends, Im usually alone any time I get a drink or step off to the side to watch whats going on. I have a pretty smile and great hair and Im smart and funny and I have legs for days, a great rack and curves. I buy people drinks, I tell stories and keep people laughing, I compliment you, I hug you and I listen to everything youre up to.

    And I always strut home alone in my pretty dress.

    it seems like yeah- we could get laid just by walking out of the house - but I really dont want any old homeless guy drooling all over my body while he flops about wondering how he got so lucky.
  • MikeM53082
    MikeM53082 Posts: 1,199 Member
    also lmfao when a whole bunch of women tell a man that they know better what goes on in ALL men's heads than he does.

    Yoovie, it's quite the opposite. He's saying all men are the same and they don't give a flying *kitten* about personality as long as the lady is the finest "tail" he can land. Not only women are disagreeing with him and say some dudes care about who they are spending time with beyond how she looks on his arm. Carl spoke out against it too (basically everyone is telling Mike to stop acting like his perspective on life is the only one that is real and all women are whiny suckers). As far as the dominating female response, well, I mean look at how many women are on this site let alone in this group compared to men.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but most men on here (and even some females) agree with me on here. Some people won't openly admit it, but deep down, they know I'm right.

    I never said men don't give an hoot about personality. As a matter of fact, I said that negative personality was a deal breaker for me on one of these threads.

    You're right on the "whiny suckers" part though (this is what gets my going..), a lot of women on here have this flooring sense of self entitlement that men should ignore all physical flaws and focus on a women's inner beauty. Sorry, but that's not realistic. Men don't lay in bed at night and think about a woman's inner beauty.
  • I'm just saying, from a man's point of view, it seems that most women have it made in the shade. Whereas your average guy (i.e. me) has to fight for every decent piece of tail he can get.

    True.

    It seems that way but I cant get laid to save my life. I will walk into a concert or a party or a bar even, with a killer outfit. I will mingle from group of people to group of people and say hello to everyone. I wont encapsule myself with girlfriends, Im usually alone any time I get a drink or step off to the side to watch whats going on. I have a pretty smile and great hair and Im smart and funny and I have legs for days, a great rack and curves. I buy people drinks, I tell stories and keep people laughing, I compliment you, I hug you and I listen to everything youre up to.

    And I always strut home alone in my pretty dress.

    it seems like yeah- we could get laid just by walking out of the house - but I really dont want any old homeless guy drooling all over my body while he flops about wondering how he got so lucky.

    You don't want an old homeless guy ... *kicks rocks*
  • farmers_daughter
    farmers_daughter Posts: 1,632 Member
    Jeez, I wish a hot girl would take advantage of me for a little while.

    This is why I have ZERO sympathy for women. Absolutely zero. :tongue:

    lmao if only we actually liked being taken advantage of...not a fan personally..

    Still not going to get an ounce of sympathy from me.

    So let me get this straight, most women can get sex from a good looking man, who's way out of her league.

    OR

    Have a relationship with a man whos's a good match for her.


    Meanwhile for men:

    We can get easy sex from a woman who's well below our league.

    OR

    Have a relationship with a woman who's a good match for us.

    Looking at the two differences, women definitely have it better. No doubt.

    Oh gravy quit whining. :tongue:
  • Jennifer2387
    Jennifer2387 Posts: 957 Member

    I'm just saying, from a man's point of view, it seems that most women have it made in the shade. Whereas your average guy (i.e. me) has to fight for every decent piece of tail he can get.

    maybe because you refer to it as a decent piece of tail. or because you have very archaic views on women.
  • Jennifer2387
    Jennifer2387 Posts: 957 Member

    You're right on the "whiny suckers" part though (this is what gets my going..), a lot of women on here have this flooring sense of self entitlement that men should ignore all physical flaws and focus on a women's inner beauty. Sorry, but that's not realistic. Men don't lay in bed at night and think about a woman's inner beauty.

    I think that women are generally talking relationship and long-term wise .. and you are talking about just having sex or asking someone on a date. At some point you have to get beyond her hot piece of tail and have a conversation.
  • NCTravellingGirl
    NCTravellingGirl Posts: 717 Member
    I think that women are generally talking relationship and long-term wise .. and you are talking about just having sex or asking someone on a date. At some point you have to get beyond her hot piece of tail and have a conversation.

    Haha, no he doesn't.... hot pieces of tail aren't meant to speak. They should know their place and then leave, HAHAHAHA! oh look at me, now I sound like Mike! :laugh:
  • MikeM53082
    MikeM53082 Posts: 1,199 Member

    I'm just saying, from a man's point of view, it seems that most women have it made in the shade. Whereas your average guy (i.e. me) has to fight for every decent piece of tail he can get.

    maybe because you refer to it as a decent piece of tail. or because you have very archaic views on women.

    Maybe I do have archaic views when it comes to man/woman relationships. I'm pretty traditional in that sense.

    And piece of tail is just an expression. I can be more vulgar if you want?

    Oddly enough, I've called women a "piece of tail" to their face numerous times.. usually they smile, laugh, and give me the "oh you" type of look and touch :wink:
  • kerrymh
    kerrymh Posts: 912 Member
    I think that women are generally talking relationship and long-term wise .. and you are talking about just having sex or asking someone on a date. At some point you have to get beyond her hot piece of tail and have a conversation.

    Haha, no he doesn't.... hot pieces of tail aren't meant to speak. They should know their place and then leave, HAHAHAHA! oh look at me, now I sound like Mike! :laugh:

    Lmao..

    So what about is girls who like to talk..and have sex..and have inner beauty but don't look like a barbi doll and never will....we can just go grab a B.O.B and have a meaningful relationship with it?
  • jenbit
    jenbit Posts: 4,252 Member
    I think that women are generally talking relationship and long-term wise .. and you are talking about just having sex or asking someone on a date. At some point you have to get beyond her hot piece of tail and have a conversation.

    Haha, no he doesn't.... hot pieces of tail aren't meant to speak. They should know their place and then leave, HAHAHAHA! oh look at me, now I sound like Mike! :laugh:


    LOL love it

    Ok Mike's right about alot of guys. MY guy friends are mostly of Mike's view wheres the next hot piece of @$$ that I can get. I have a few that want to find that one lady to settle down with. Most of the settle down guys however have already done the running chasing tail game.

    BTW NC right hot peices of tail have no verbal rights and no sleep over rights either lol
  • MikeM53082
    MikeM53082 Posts: 1,199 Member

    You're right on the "whiny suckers" part though (this is what gets my going..), a lot of women on here have this flooring sense of self entitlement that men should ignore all physical flaws and focus on a women's inner beauty. Sorry, but that's not realistic. Men don't lay in bed at night and think about a woman's inner beauty.

    I think that women are generally talking relationship and long-term wise .. and you are talking about just having sex or asking someone on a date. At some point you have to get beyond her hot piece of tail and have a conversation.

    My conversation skills are top notch as I'm fairly well read and keep up to date on the news. So that's a non-issue.

    And in all seriousness, I don't give a hoot about the women's ability to hold a conversation or intelligence in a relationship. If I want to talk U.S. foreign policy, I have friends for that. If I want to talk real estate and interest rates, I have other friends for that. The last thing I want after a long day at the office is to talk about the Arab Spring or Burmese political prisoners with my partner. No thanks! That just sucks!
  • NCTravellingGirl
    NCTravellingGirl Posts: 717 Member
    Lmao..

    So what about is girls who like to talk..and have sex..and have inner beauty but don't look like a barbi doll and never will....we can just go grab a B.O.B and have a meaningful relationship with it?

    I'm with you on that, Kerry. It may be the safest guaranteed option I'd have, haha....
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I'm just saying, from a man's point of view, it seems that most women have it made in the shade. Whereas your average guy (i.e. me) has to fight for every decent piece of tail he can get.

    True.

    It seems that way but I cant get laid to save my life. I will walk into a concert or a party or a bar even, with a killer outfit. I will mingle from group of people to group of people and say hello to everyone. I wont encapsule myself with girlfriends, Im usually alone any time I get a drink or step off to the side to watch whats going on. I have a pretty smile and great hair and Im smart and funny and I have legs for days, a great rack and curves. I buy people drinks, I tell stories and keep people laughing, I compliment you, I hug you and I listen to everything youre up to.

    And I always strut home alone in my pretty dress.

    it seems like yeah- we could get laid just by walking out of the house - but I really dont want any old homeless guy drooling all over my body while he flops about wondering how he got so lucky.

    You don't want an old homeless guy ... *kicks rocks*

    no darlin I only want you ♥
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    also lmfao when a whole bunch of women tell a man that they know better what goes on in ALL men's heads than he does.

    Yoovie, it's quite the opposite. He's saying all men are the same and they don't give a flying *kitten* about personality as long as the lady is the finest "tail" he can land. Not only women are disagreeing with him and say some dudes care about who they are spending time with beyond how she looks on his arm. Carl spoke out against it too (basically everyone is telling Mike to stop acting like his perspective on life is the only one that is real and all women are whiny suckers). As far as the dominating female response, well, I mean look at how many women are on this site let alone in this group compared to men.

    When it comes to getting laid? Yeah no one cares about personality if youre just trying to score. Looking for a relationship and an honest partnership is different.

    When I just wanna get laid i dont give a a flying anything about his personality as long as he isnt so obnoxious that he cant focus on me while Im naked. When its just sex, when I just want to get nailed to the damn mattress because its sex I need - not meeting someone special- then I want him to be as hot as possible, with good hygiene and mad game.

    I dont care if he's ambitious I care if he's pretty and fun to lick.
  • kerrymh
    kerrymh Posts: 912 Member
    Lmao..

    So what about is girls who like to talk..and have sex..and have inner beauty but don't look like a barbi doll and never will....we can just go grab a B.O.B and have a meaningful relationship with it?

    I'm with you on that, Kerry. It may be the safest guaranteed option I'd have, haha....

    Welcome to my life since 2010 lol.

    So what does a man who is all about looks want in a woman..aside from sex? I mean does she serve any other purpose? Do you want a relationship..and if you do why? just for the regular sex? Or do you actually want to know her mind eventually..Sounds like Mike as other people he seeks out of everything else besides sexual gratification..so why pursue a relationship at al,l when you could just seek out new hot chick after new hot chick.. (since you did manage to get one hot chick..I'm assuming the guy is either hot himself, rich or has charisma...there for he can get more) So why settle ever?
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    also lmfao when a whole bunch of women tell a man that they know better what goes on in ALL men's heads than he does.

    Yoovie, it's quite the opposite. He's saying all men are the same and they don't give a flying *kitten* about personality as long as the lady is the finest "tail" he can land. Not only women are disagreeing with him and say some dudes care about who they are spending time with beyond how she looks on his arm. Carl spoke out against it too (basically everyone is telling Mike to stop acting like his perspective on life is the only one that is real and all women are whiny suckers). As far as the dominating female response, well, I mean look at how many women are on this site let alone in this group compared to men.

    When it comes to getting laid? Yeah no one cares about personality if youre just trying to score. Looking for a relationship and an honest partnership is different.

    When I just wanna get laid i dont give a a flying anything about his personality as long as he isnt so obnoxious that he cant focus on me while Im naked. When its just sex, when I just want to get nailed to the damn mattress because its sex I need - not meeting someone special- then I want him to be as hot as possible, with good hygiene and mad game.

    I dont care if he's ambitious I care if he's pretty and fun to lick.

    Well ****, if we're just talking about hittin' it and quittin' it then *kitten* all to personality as long as he looks like Chris Hemsworth (or IS Chris Hemsworth!)
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Lmao..
    So what about is girls who like to talk..and have sex..and have inner beauty but don't look like a barbi doll and never will....we can just go grab a B.O.B and have a meaningful relationship with it?

    what if we look like Barbie too :-/
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    So what does a man who is all about looks want in a woman..aside from sex? I mean does she serve any other purpose? Do you want a relationship..and if you do why? just for the regular sex? Or do you actually want to know her mind eventually..Sounds like Mike as other people he seeks out of everything else besides sexual gratification..so why pursue a relationship at al,l when you could just seek out new hot chick after new hot chick.. (since you did manage to get one hot chick..I'm assuming the guy is either hot himself, rich or has charisma...there for he can get more) So why settle ever?

    Status, my dear
  • pa_jorg
    pa_jorg Posts: 4,404 Member
    Mike's perspective IS what a lot of men think. Maybe not all of course, there are exceptions. Carl happens to be one of them. I personally have run into more men like Mike than like Carl. Each of you may have had a different experience. We can argue with Mike all we want... it doesn't make his point less valid! It REALLY seems to bother a lot of women on these pages when Mike posts something they so vehemently disagree with...personally, I appreciate his honesty because there are plenty of guys who think that who DON'T SPEAK UP! I am not expecting to change him, haha....

    NC, Yes there are a lot of guys in the world who think like Mike. Fine, I respect a difference of opinion. Let him tell us HIS opinion and move on instead of beating a dead horse (women need to be hot, men only want tail, get a boob job and a nice tan, men don't care if a woman has inner beauty or brains). Personally, I'm a little tired of every thread turning into the "Mike Show" because he doesn't understand the difference between HIS opinion and what ALL men think. Then he argues with the women here that we are constantly wrong. It's exhausting... I'm cool with discussing sex, it has it's place as a topic, but I also think a lot of people here want to discuss relationship issues. Clearly he does not and simply derails every conversation back to what HE wants. So, really, who is the one that is unable to see a difference of opinion here?
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    Mike's perspective IS what a lot of men think. Maybe not all of course, there are exceptions. Carl happens to be one of them. I personally have run into more men like Mike than like Carl. Each of you may have had a different experience. We can argue with Mike all we want... it doesn't make his point less valid! It REALLY seems to bother a lot of women on these pages when Mike posts something they so vehemently disagree with...personally, I appreciate his honesty because there are plenty of guys who think that who DON'T SPEAK UP! I am not expecting to change him, haha....

    NC, Yes there are a lot of guys in the world who think like Mike. Fine, I respect a difference of opinion. Let him tell us HIS opinion and move on instead of beating a dead horse (women need to be hot, men only want tail, get a boob job and a nice tan, men don't care if a woman has inner beauty or brains). Personally, I'm a little tired of every thread turning into the "Mike Show" because he doesn't understand the difference between HIS opinion and what ALL men think. Then he argues with the women here that we are constantly wrong. It's exhausting... I'm cool with discussing sex, it has it's place as a topic, but I also think a lot of people here want to discuss relationship issues. Clearly he does not and simply derails every conversation back to what HE wants. So, really, who is the one that is unable to see a difference of opinion here?

    My favorite part is when we try to actually have a discussion and respond directly to what he says, someone can write out and entire paragraph and his responses either focus on a comment that wasn't even made by that person or basically says "Blah blah my opinion blah blah I know better because penis". I don't even bother responding to him in a serious way anymore because no discussion is possible. There's no debate, no back and forth of ideas, no sharing and growing and understanding just a bunch of one sided outdated uninformed rhetoric. I believe at this point he might actually be a troll.
  • kerrymh
    kerrymh Posts: 912 Member
    Lmao..
    So what about is girls who like to talk..and have sex..and have inner beauty but don't look like a barbi doll and never will....we can just go grab a B.O.B and have a meaningful relationship with it?

    what if we look like Barbie too :-/

    You are a mystery to me lol I'm not sure why you are haven't made some guy a great status symbol yet hehe.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    You are a mystery to me lol I'm not sure why you are haven't made some guy a great status symbol yet hehe.

    o_o
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
    Maybe it's different for men, but I don't consider picking up a younger hot guy particularly challenging, much less an ego boost. Once I'm near goal weight it will be easy if I'm so inclined.

    Why? Most are unmarried, actively looking, and not hard to attract, at least for awhile. I'd feel much better about myself (once I move to whereever I'm going) if I attracted an intelligent, pleasant looking single man of my own age.