Is it healthy to stay in keto?
Peachysunrain
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I had my gallbladder removed after staying in keto then having more than 30 carbs on weekends, it built up gallstones so I am wondering really how hard it is on the rest of my body. I mean I really like staying in keto cause I drop lbs like nothing at first then about 2-4 the next few weeks.
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http://www.dietdoctor.com/gallstones-and-low-carb Low carb doesn't cause gallstones. You will however want to carefully monitor your fat intake and let your body adjust to not having a gallbladder, upping it slowly. Find a doctor who can give you the right support.0
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Keto is a natural diet that Alaska Natives lived on for thousands of years without health problems. (I know, I'm from Alaska.)
Your gallbladder problems are separate, but now that you don't have one, keto may be difficult because now digest fats differently.0 -
Keto is a natural diet that Alaska Natives lived on for thousands of years without health problems. (I know, I'm from Alaska.)
Your gallbladder problems are separate, but now that you don't have one, keto may be difficult because now digest fats differently.
I'm starting to wonder about this reasoning. Just as Tibetans have adapted to live at higher altitudes over thousands of years, perhaps Native Alaskans have adapted over thousands of years to live on low carb diets. In which case, it might not be as safe for non-adapted humans as we think it is.
I'm not saying it isn't safe, but I just wonder if we can really point to a single group of humans to say that it is.0 -
http://discovermagazine.com/2004/oct/inuit-paradox
It's called the Inuit Paradox and it doesn't come from years of adaptation. It's how all humans' bodies are naturally programmed.
"Impressed, the explorer Vilhjalmur Stefansson adopted an Eskimo-style diet for five years during the two Arctic expeditions he led between 1908 and 1918. “The thing to do is to find your antiscorbutics where you are,” he wrote. “Pick them up as you go.” In 1928, to convince skeptics, he and a young colleague spent a year on an Americanized version of the diet under medical supervision at Bellevue Hospital in New York City. The pair ate steaks, chops, organ meats like brain and liver, poultry, fish, and fat with gusto. “If you have some fresh meat in your diet every day and don’t overcook it,” Stefansson declared triumphantly, “there will be enough C from that source alone to prevent scurvy.”
The two modern non-eskimos lived a year on nothing but meat and fat and had no negative health effects. The study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. http://www.jbc.org/content/87/3/651.full.pdf
The very end has a good summary of their results. It even discusses how it had no negative effect on body organs like their kidneys.0 -
http://discovermagazine.com/2004/oct/inuit-paradox
It's called the Inuit Paradox and it doesn't come from years of adaptation. It's how all humans' bodies are naturally programmed.
"Impressed, the explorer Vilhjalmur Stefansson adopted an Eskimo-style diet for five years during the two Arctic expeditions he led between 1908 and 1918. “The thing to do is to find your antiscorbutics where you are,” he wrote. “Pick them up as you go.” In 1928, to convince skeptics, he and a young colleague spent a year on an Americanized version of the diet under medical supervision at Bellevue Hospital in New York City. The pair ate steaks, chops, organ meats like brain and liver, poultry, fish, and fat with gusto. “If you have some fresh meat in your diet every day and don’t overcook it,” Stefansson declared triumphantly, “there will be enough C from that source alone to prevent scurvy.”
The two modern non-eskimos lived a year on nothing but meat and fat and had no negative health effects. The study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. http://www.jbc.org/content/87/3/651.full.pdf
The very end has a good summary of their results. It even discusses how it had no negative effect on body organs like their kidneys.
Thanks for the extra info! I'm aware of the study, what I didn't remember reading was that he continued to eat that way for five years. That makes me feel a good bit better about it.
I do worry about those of us (me!) who don't eat organ meat and I wonder what the definition of overcook is, but since I take a multivitamin every day with C in it, I guess I shouldn't fret!0 -
If you don't eat any organ meat, make sure you are getting enough Vitamin A.0
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I'm not saying it isn't safe, but I just wonder if we can really point to a single group of humans to say that it is.
It's not a single group of humans. For 2.5 million years, all humans, ate very few carbs. It was only about 15 000 years ago, when agriculture became a hit with the cavemen/cavewomen, that we started having them more frequently in our diets. 15 000 years is not long enough for our bodies to have evolved and adapted to wheat and sugar, etc.0 -
I'm not saying it isn't safe, but I just wonder if we can really point to a single group of humans to say that it is.
It's not a single group of humans. For 2.5 million years, all humans, ate very few carbs. It was only about 15 000 years ago, when agriculture became a hit with the cavemen/cavewomen, that we started having them more frequently in our diets. 15 000 years is not long enough for our bodies to have evolved and adapted to wheat and sugar, etc.
Good point. We haven't had time to adapt to our modern diet, and it shows! But I wasn't sure about carbs, just pure carbs from any source, and the way it was balanced in the typical human diet during early cultivation and hunter gatherer periods. Theoretically, in a lot of environments, people could have gotten a lot of carbs without cultivation, right? Especially in tropical climates.
I'm going to have to learn more about this. Meanwhile, it hasn't killed me yet. But I definitely get told sometimes by my body when it's time for a higher carb day. Usually either a day I work out or the next day I've felt kind of crummy unless I up my carbs somewhat. And the muscle soreness seems worse, too. I know that supposedly I don't work out long or hard enough to need those carbs, but I'm still noticing a difference.
And I better go make sure my multivitamin has enough A in it now. Because I am not eating organ meat! Tried liver once. Single worst thing I ever had on my plate.0 -
I had the same problem. Few years ago i went on a no carb diet , lost alot of weight then one day cheated and had ChikFilet..that night I was in the hospital with pancreatitis and then had my gall bladder removed. Soooo.........is it possible to do the lchf without gallbladder?0
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Yes. I eat low carb, have been in ketosis for over 5 months and have no gallbladder.I had the same problem. Few years ago i went on a no carb diet , lost alot of weight then one day cheated and had ChikFilet..that night I was in the hospital with pancreatitis and then had my gall bladder removed. Soooo.........is it possible to do the lchf without gallbladder?0 -
Yes. I eat low carb, have been in ketosis for over 5 months and have no gallbladder.I had the same problem. Few years ago i went on a no carb diet , lost alot of weight then one day cheated and had ChikFilet..that night I was in the hospital with pancreatitis and then had my gall bladder removed. Soooo.........is it possible to do the lchf without gallbladder?
GREAT! Thanks!
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I have been in ketosis for 12 months. Healthy!
My friend Stephanie has been in ketosis for over 5 years. Healthy!
When I say ketotsis, I mean a diet averaging in 75%+ of calories from EFAs, and about 5% carbs.
My triglycerides are super low and I am extremely energetic and lean.0
