The News Anchor, the email and the response...
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Do we a) think this was an appropriate response? b) Consider this viewer's unsolicited email to be 'bullying' and/or c) believe that News presenters/people in the public eye have a duty to represent a "healthy lifestyle" in the manner that phrase is generally understood by Joe Public i.e. slim?
(a) No, I don't think it's appropriate at all. Her reaction was way over the top and reeked of a "playing the victim" mentality. It did, however, dramatically increase her publicity and ratings.
(b) The viewer is clearly a jerk, but I don't see his comments or email as bullying. He's just some *kitten* with a big mouth. His comments should've just been ignored, and she should have just moved on doing her job. It seems like a lot of people don't seem to understand the difference between bullying and someone just being a regular run-of-the-mill *kitten*. There are jerks that are going to say things about you no matter what you do or what you look like, because they are jerks. It's a necessary life-skill learning how to brush them off and realize that their comments mean nothing. Giving them attention is what they want. Bullying is entirely different. To me, bullying is closer to the legal definition of harassment than anything else, and it should not be tolerated. This single email is not bullying.
(c) No, however, if you're going to be a public personality, you should be prepared to deal with people who don't like you based on how you look. This goes for people who are fat, thin, blonde, redhead, dark skinned, light skinned, whatever. It's just part of it.
Now, how do you think the message of bullying, or even perceived bullying get across?0 -
Thanks for playing, you should have just stopped here.
Now, how do you think the message of bullying, or even perceived bullying get across?
LOL aren't you just a peach.
I see you are incapable of having a discussion with people who disagree with you without getting personal. Good job. First, you go off on fbmandy and say, "let's hope she doesn't have children" which is abominably rude and childish because she doesn't agree with you, and now you come off on me with your smartass "thanks for playing" comment because I called you out on it?
Seems to me like you should've never joined this group since you're incapable of rational discussion without name-calling and ad hominem attacks.
Grow up.0 -
YesThe figures you posted were not for teens or younger people but the total suicide rates for the population as a whole.
ThanksHere are the figures for younger people: http://www.afsp.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.viewPage&page_id=04EB7CD1-9EED-9712-89C9540AFCB44481
Of course they don't (kind of goes back to the point about my earlier question)Note that the largest increase in suicides is among people aged 45 to 64, while the rate for teens and children has held fairly constant since 2000.
These figures say absolutely nothing about the causes of these suicides either.
Then I don't understand your original post on the previous page as it relates to the topic of bullying.
Can you clarify why you posted the suicide rates link if it doesn't apply to teen bully (as the conversation context indicates)? (honest question, so please don't read any rudeness in it).0 -
Do we a) think this was an appropriate response? b) Consider this viewer's unsolicited email to be 'bullying' and/or c) believe that News presenters/people in the public eye have a duty to represent a "healthy lifestyle" in the manner that phrase is generally understood by Joe Public i.e. slim?
(a) No, I don't think it's appropriate at all. Her reaction was way over the top and reeked of a "playing the victim" mentality. It did, however, dramatically increase her publicity and ratings.
(b) The viewer is clearly a jerk, but I don't see his comments or email as bullying. He's just some *kitten* with a big mouth. His comments should've just been ignored, and she should have just moved on doing her job. It seems like a lot of people don't seem to understand the difference between bullying and someone just being a regular run-of-the-mill *kitten*. There are jerks that are going to say things about you no matter what you do or what you look like, because they are jerks. It's a necessary life-skill learning how to brush them off and realize that their comments mean nothing. Giving them attention is what they want. Bullying is entirely different. To me, bullying is closer to the legal definition of harassment than anything else, and it should not be tolerated. This single email is not bullying.
(c) No, however, if you're going to be a public personality, you should be prepared to deal with people who don't like you based on how you look. This goes for people who are fat, thin, blonde, redhead, dark skinned, light skinned, whatever. It's just part of it.
Now, how do you think the message of bullying, or even perceived bullying get across?
Please keep the personal attacks out of the discussion or we will be forced to remove people who insist on attacking other members.0 -
Thanks for playing, you should have just stopped here.
Now, how do you think the message of bullying, or even perceived bullying get across?
LOL aren't you just a peach.
I see you are incapable of having a discussion with people who disagree with you without getting personal. Good job. First, you go off on fbmandy and say, "let's hope she doesn't have children" which is abominably rude and childish because she doesn't agree with you, and now you come off on me with your smartass "thanks for playing" comment because I called you out on it?
Seems to me like you should've never joined this group since you're incapable of rational discussion without name-calling and ad hominem attacks.
Grow up.
Again, thanks for playing. I'm not the only one who disagrees. Pick on someone else. Please. Trust me, you are wasting your time with me.
Folks think she was wrong for taking it public, or her family taking it public. I simply asked what would your remedy be? Should she have kept it quiet? Bullying is so subjective, obviously. Surely, those who think they know better can offer a legitimate response.
I have never been bullied. I have never whined because someone didn't like the way I looked. BUT, I am a strong advocate of standing up for oneself using any form of media. That is what this anchorwoman did. So what if she is whining. What if she got someone else to think differently? Is that so bad??
If I say something offensive that requires someone to think differently than what is considered acceptable, so be it. That is one way critical thinking can work. It's not all fluff and feathers.0 -
Thanks for playing, you should have just stopped here.
Now, how do you think the message of bullying, or even perceived bullying get across?
LOL aren't you just a peach.
I see you are incapable of having a discussion with people who disagree with you without getting personal. Good job. First, you go off on fbmandy and say, "let's hope she doesn't have children" which is abominably rude and childish because she doesn't agree with you, and now you come off on me with your smartass "thanks for playing" comment because I called you out on it?
Seems to me like you should've never joined this group since you're incapable of rational discussion without name-calling and ad hominem attacks.
Grow up.
Again, thanks for playing. I'm not the only one who disagrees. Pick on someone else. Please. Trust me, you are wasting your time with me.
Folks think she was wrong for taking it public, or her family taking it public. I simply asked what would your remedy be? Should she have kept it quiet? Bullying is so subjective, obviously. Surely, those who think they know better can offer a legitimate response.
I have never been bullied. I have never whined because someone didn't like the way I looked. BUT, I am a strong advocate of standing up for oneself using any form of media. That is what this anchorwoman did. So what if she is whining. What if she got someone else to think differently? Is that so bad??
If I say something offensive that requires someone to think differently than what is considered acceptable, so be it. That is one way critical thinking can work. It's not all fluff and feathers.
So redhousecat, bullying has never occurred in your life. Good! Glad you didn't suffer like some people. So if it is subjective, how would you know how someone should react if you don't know personally first hand? Seriously asking, not attacking your views. If you look up the definition of bullying, the one with more power was the news anchor woman. She used a mass media system to call someone stupid, while the numbnuts who sent her the email personally, used an email. She could have responded personally as well and blocked him. But if bullying involves someone forcing their high power on someone else, who's really the bully then? I know she has a thyroid issue, but why did she really take it this far? Why not try the quiet route first. I compare it to punching someone in the mouth for being called a stupid head.0 -
they are offing themselves because they are coddled and the whole anti-bully thing. If the suicide rate is any higher than it was 20 years ago it's because kids now don't know how to cope, or deal with life being unfair. It's very sad but it's a result of 'softening' kids up.
Here are some figures - http://www.afsp.org/index.cfm?page_id=04ea1254-bd31-1fa3-c549d77e6ca6aa37
Where's your information coming from? Is it anecdotal? :huh:
I always thought kids were the highest among age groups. This says otherwise. Good to know.
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Highest among ages 45-50.0
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