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And btw yes my Barbie had Ken as her butler and GI Joe as her man ... lol
I totally think this says something about women! There are so many of us that rejected Ken .. but LOVED GI Joe!! I know that there must be something psychological about this!0 -
I like the doll, as I think it's wonderful and educational. I don't view this as being sexual in nature. I think the more you can expose kids to at a young age (albeit appropriate, which I think the breastfeeding doll is) the more well rounded they will become. Whether it's breast feeding, poor people, Indian food, whatever. Exposure is good.
I remember when I was really young, I grew up in an area that was traditionally white and black, but had a very quickly growing Spanish population. In early grade school (maybe it was pre-school), there would always be plush dolls in the classroom to play with. Among all the white dolls there, our teacher mixed in a bunch of Mexican looking dolls (darker skin, different dress, etc). The teacher did this to expose us children that there are many different types of people in the world. And, that we should except them even though they look and dress differently than us.
I think a lot of people are focusing on the negative (or sexual) aspect of the breastfeeding doll. What if the teacher only focused on the negative aspect of the Mexican doll? She'd be considered pretty racist, right?0 -
I like the doll, as I think it's wonderful and educational. I don't view this as being sexual in nature. I think the more you can expose kids to at a young age (albeit appropriate, which I think the breastfeeding doll is) the more well rounded they will become. Whether it's breast feeding, poor people, Indian food, whatever. Exposure is good.
I remember when I was really young, I grew up in an area that was traditionally white and black, but had a very quickly growing Spanish population. In early grade school (maybe it was pre-school), there would always be plush dolls in the classroom to play with. Among all the white dolls there, our teacher mixed in a bunch of Mexican looking dolls (darker skin, different dress, etc). The teacher did this to expose us children that there are many different types of people in the world. And, that we should except them even though they look and dress differently than us.
I think a lot of people are focusing on the negative (or sexual) aspect of the breastfeeding doll. What if the teacher only focused on the negative aspect of the Mexican doll? She'd be considered pretty racist, right?
Would you buy this doll for your son? Based on the educational value?0 -
Let me get some popcorn....I have a small feeling ....*kitten* just got real, as they say?? Or wait it hit the fan? :explode:
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I like the doll, as I think it's wonderful and educational. I don't view this as being sexual in nature. I think the more you can expose kids to at a young age (albeit appropriate, which I think the breastfeeding doll is) the more well rounded they will become. Whether it's breast feeding, poor people, Indian food, whatever. Exposure is good.
I remember when I was really young, I grew up in an area that was traditionally white and black, but had a very quickly growing Spanish population. In early grade school (maybe it was pre-school), there would always be plush dolls in the classroom to play with. Among all the white dolls there, our teacher mixed in a bunch of Mexican looking dolls (darker skin, different dress, etc). The teacher did this to expose us children that there are many different types of people in the world. And, that we should except them even though they look and dress differently than us.
I think a lot of people are focusing on the negative (or sexual) aspect of the breastfeeding doll. What if the teacher only focused on the negative aspect of the Mexican doll? She'd be considered pretty racist, right?
I don't see breastfeeding as sexual or negative .. what I think my problem is that it is part of a fully developed anatomy of a female that a child doesn't need to be exposed to at 6 years old or 8 years old. That when a child is putting a baby doll, mexican or not .. up to her chest which is not even developed to feed it .. it is just wrong. there are things that are supposed to be private and when it involves exposing a body part .. it needs to be private.0 -
I like the doll, as I think it's wonderful and educational. I don't view this as being sexual in nature. I think the more you can expose kids to at a young age (albeit appropriate, which I think the breastfeeding doll is) the more well rounded they will become. Whether it's breast feeding, poor people, Indian food, whatever. Exposure is good.
I remember when I was really young, I grew up in an area that was traditionally white and black, but had a very quickly growing Spanish population. In early grade school (maybe it was pre-school), there would always be plush dolls in the classroom to play with. Among all the white dolls there, our teacher mixed in a bunch of Mexican looking dolls (darker skin, different dress, etc). The teacher did this to expose us children that there are many different types of people in the world. And, that we should except them even though they look and dress differently than us.
I think a lot of people are focusing on the negative (or sexual) aspect of the breastfeeding doll. What if the teacher only focused on the negative aspect of the Mexican doll? She'd be considered pretty racist, right?
Would you buy this doll for your son? Based on the educational value?
Very good question...if you believe in it would it also be educational to a son?0 -
i dont see it as being sexual, but HELL EFFING NO would i buy this for my daughter or son if i had either one.0
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I think a lot of people are focusing on the negative (or sexual) aspect of the breastfeeding doll. What if the teacher only focused on the negative aspect of the Mexican doll? She'd be considered pretty racist, right?
You're comparing apples and oranges. There is no "negative aspect" of having mexican dolls (is there?), but there is negative aspects when it comes to focusing attention to a young girls breasts. I think we can all agree (whether they should be or not) that breasts have a very very sexual place in our culture. The focus on a childs not yet developed chest seems perverse. While, like I said before, it's one thing for a girl to have a babydoll and do all those things with it, it's something else entirely when the purpose of the doll is so focused.0 -
I umm.....I don't know. It just doesn't feel right. I have no qualms with women that breast feed their baby in public. Doesn't bother me. However this toy bugs me.0
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I think a lot of people are focusing on the negative (or sexual) aspect of the breastfeeding doll. What if the teacher only focused on the negative aspect of the Mexican doll? She'd be considered pretty racist, right?
You're comparing apples and oranges. There is no "negative aspect" of having mexican dolls (is there?), but there is negative aspects when it comes to focusing attention to a young girls breasts. I think we can all agree (whether they should be or not) that breasts have a very very sexual place in our culture. The focus on a childs not yet developed chest seems perverse. While, like I said before, it's one thing for a girl to have a babydoll and do all those things with it, it's something else entirely when the purpose of the doll is so focused.
Agree 100%
Here is the thread I posted last December about breastfeeding. Warning: there is a crap ton of very negative things in there...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/429464-breastfeeding-in-public
Don't miss the 13 page continuation etiher...hahahaha0 -
" Whether it's breast feeding, poor people, Indian food... exposure is good."
I love this- one of the funniest string of words that I've ever read. I seriously heart incongruity.
Regarding the doll, I'm 100% all for breast feeding (I combined breast and bottle with my kid), but I've met too many crazy rigid breastfeeding tyrants, and this doll seems completely their domain. It feels like some kind of propaganda tool (although I realize most toys could be called that).0 -
I like the doll, as I think it's wonderful and educational. I don't view this as being sexual in nature. I think the more you can expose kids to at a young age (albeit appropriate, which I think the breastfeeding doll is) the more well rounded they will become. Whether it's breast feeding, poor people, Indian food, whatever. Exposure is good.
I remember when I was really young, I grew up in an area that was traditionally white and black, but had a very quickly growing Spanish population. In early grade school (maybe it was pre-school), there would always be plush dolls in the classroom to play with. Among all the white dolls there, our teacher mixed in a bunch of Mexican looking dolls (darker skin, different dress, etc). The teacher did this to expose us children that there are many different types of people in the world. And, that we should except them even though they look and dress differently than us.
I think a lot of people are focusing on the negative (or sexual) aspect of the breastfeeding doll. What if the teacher only focused on the negative aspect of the Mexican doll? She'd be considered pretty racist, right?
Would you buy this doll for your son? Based on the educational value?
Don't be silly.. boys don't play with dolls. We played with toy guns, footballs, and earthworms.0 -
Don't be silly.. boys don't play with dolls. We played with toy guns, footballs, and earthworms.
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So people think it's cute when little girls pretend to be Shawty and go low/low/low bump and grind... but breastfeeding is gross?
I probably wouldn't buy the doll for my girl (if I had one) but if someone bought one for her I wouldn't say "no."
I wish breastfeeding were more acceptable. When my mom was a kid, breastfeeding was frowned upon not because of health or 'betterness" but (according to her and her friends) because only middle to upper class could afford formula, so it was a sign of poorness to breastfeed. In fact, I wish breastfeeding were the foundation of our welfare programs for mothers with infants.
I breastfed my son for almost 14 months, which was a sacrifice while military and traveling often. I have many funny pumping stories and trips for mothers who might find themselves in my position. I wouldn't change a thing. He is incredibly bright, rarely gets sick, and has a healthy attachment to his mom even though she is gone a lot for work.
But then... I'm one of those crazy parents that would NOT let my son play with a breastfeeding doll. Lol.0 -
So people think it's cute when little girls pretend to be Shawty and go low/low/low bump and grind...
No, that's just depressing.
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I like the doll, as I think it's wonderful and educational. I don't view this as being sexual in nature. I think the more you can expose kids to at a young age (albeit appropriate, which I think the breastfeeding doll is) the more well rounded they will become. Whether it's breast feeding, poor people, Indian food, whatever. Exposure is good.
I remember when I was really young, I grew up in an area that was traditionally white and black, but had a very quickly growing Spanish population. In early grade school (maybe it was pre-school), there would always be plush dolls in the classroom to play with. Among all the white dolls there, our teacher mixed in a bunch of Mexican looking dolls (darker skin, different dress, etc). The teacher did this to expose us children that there are many different types of people in the world. And, that we should except them even though they look and dress differently than us.
I think a lot of people are focusing on the negative (or sexual) aspect of the breastfeeding doll. What if the teacher only focused on the negative aspect of the Mexican doll? She'd be considered pretty racist, right?
Would you buy this doll for your son? Based on the educational value?
Don't be silly.. boys don't play with dolls. We played with toy guns, footballs, and earthworms.
And what are the educational values of those things? Especially guns?0 -
the reason i wouldnt buy it has more to do with the fact that i'm against kids pretending to be mommies and daddies or what not. can we let puberty set in before we start with gender expectations?
the little girl in the ad barely knows how to hold her pencil right or spell her name correctly but let's make sure she can pop out a baby and breast feed that sucker.
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the reason i wouldnt buy it has more to do with the fact that i'm against kids pretending to be mommies and daddies or what not. can we let puberty set in before we start with gender expectations?
Great point... when i was a kid, all the dolls came with bottles and diapers and some with all the other accouterments of taking care of a baby. Guess I didn't see breastfeeding as any different, but I totally agree with the point that we need to let our kids be kids. It irritates me that shows and toys these days for preschoolers and elementary school are all about getting a boyfriend0 -
In fact, I wish breastfeeding were the foundation of our welfare programs for mothers with infants.
If you're a breastfeeding mom on WIC, you get a lot more grown-up food (instead of the money going toward formula). That would be an incentive for me if I was on WIC!0 -
So the building I work at is retail... it's 55,000 sq ft. And for some freaking reason all the breast feeders pull a tit out and feed their kids outside my office door.... which leads to the showroom floor. So I complained to my boss to move this chair that is there... she said no and that it's natural so don't worry about it. So after doing an uncomfortable sorry sorry and speeding past... I came up with a new plan, now when I open my door and this is going on I just stare right at the exposed tit!! After all I'm a guy and it's "natural" that I would stare at an exposed boobie.0
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So people think it's cute when little girls pretend to be Shawty and go low/low/low bump and grind... but breastfeeding is gross?
No, I don't think it's cute or acceptable for little girls or even teenage girls. They are children.
As I said above, I have no problems with breastfeeding and no problems with another child owning this toy. It's just not a toy I would allow my daughter to play with. I've been trying to figure out why all day, and when I got home I think I figured it out....
Children emulate adults and often use imagination when playing. My daughter plays "house" with her friends quite often with one of them being the baby (feeding and pushing in a stroller). If I give her this doll, she has not broadened her imagination to another level, which may contribute to further role playing within her play group.....not in a sexual way, however in an imaginative way while playing "house". Could you imagine another child taking the place of the doll? Not that far of a stretch when you have 2 innocent minds playing...they don't know any more than they are doing what you said was ok with the doll.
Of course, as parents it is our job to monitor their play and make sure things like that don't happen. My way to make sure it doesn't happen is to not allow my daughter to have that doll.0 -
As I said above, I have no problems with breastfeeding and no problems with another child owning this toy. It's just not a toy I would allow my daughter to play with.
I wish more people thought like this!!0 -
Don't be silly.. boys don't play with dolls. We played with toy guns, footballs, and earthworms.
You missed action figures.0 -
Don't be silly.. boys don't play with dolls. We played with toy guns, footballs, and earthworms.
You missed action figures.
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Yeah.. this doll creeps me out. I want to say that this over-sexualizes little girls..but the problem is actually that North American society over-sexualizes breast feeding and has a phobia of it.
This. It's absurd to equate breast-feeding in public with sexual display. Same problem here in the UK, though much less so in Europe on the whole, from what I've observed.0
