IIFYM
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yes, I can fit "junk" food into my macros.
And you know just because you don't log your carbs on MFP doesn't mean your body doesn't utilise them
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OK, so I would like to think that I practice IIFYM --- pretty well (for the most part). I say 'for the most part' because one of my frustrating challenges is when I am out traveling for work- especially if it's an airport day- I usually fall short of my desired protein intake- even if I supplement it with a whey bar. I'm shooting on a daily basis for anything over 110 grams of protein, and typically fat and fiber fall into place.
My 'junk food' yesterday consisted of a handful of sugar cookies and a hot fudge sundae pop tart (yes, Sara- I DID commit to trying the pop tart--- have you bought your strudels yet???)
I never feel deprived, and there is virtually nil self applied pressure that comes from a 'diet'.0 -
OK, so I would like to think that I practice IIFYM --- pretty well (for the most part). I say 'for the most part' because one of my frustrating challenges is when I am out traveling for work- especially if it's an airport day- I usually fall short of my desired protein intake- even if I supplement it with a whey bar. I'm shooting on a daily basis for anything over 110 grams of protein, and typically fat and fiber fall into place.
My 'junk food' yesterday consisted of a handful of sugar cookies and a hot fudge sundae pop tart (yes, Sara- I DID commit to trying the pop tart--- have you bought your strudels yet???)
I never feel deprived, and there is virtually nil self applied pressure that comes from a 'diet'.
Oh poop, I promised to try them didn't I? OK, adding to next shopping trip...will report back!0 -
I had one for you last night, Sara - had almost doubled my protein goal, hit my fat goal and still had tons of carbs left, so macked down a toaster strudel as a late night snack. They're not bad, but they ain't no pop tart! :bigsmile:OK, so I would like to think that I practice IIFYM --- pretty well (for the most part). I say 'for the most part' because one of my frustrating challenges is when I am out traveling for work- especially if it's an airport day- I usually fall short of my desired protein intake- even if I supplement it with a whey bar. I'm shooting on a daily basis for anything over 110 grams of protein, and typically fat and fiber fall into place.
My 'junk food' yesterday consisted of a handful of sugar cookies and a hot fudge sundae pop tart (yes, Sara- I DID commit to trying the pop tart--- have you bought your strudels yet???)
I never feel deprived, and there is virtually nil self applied pressure that comes from a 'diet'.
Oh poop, I promised to try them didn't I? OK, adding to next shopping trip...will report back!0 -
OK, so I would like to think that I practice IIFYM --- pretty well (for the most part). I say 'for the most part' because one of my frustrating challenges is when I am out traveling for work- especially if it's an airport day- I usually fall short of my desired protein intake- even if I supplement it with a whey bar. I'm shooting on a daily basis for anything over 110 grams of protein, and typically fat and fiber fall into place.
My 'junk food' yesterday consisted of a handful of sugar cookies and a hot fudge sundae pop tart (yes, Sara- I DID commit to trying the pop tart--- have you bought your strudels yet???)
I never feel deprived, and there is virtually nil self applied pressure that comes from a 'diet'.
Oh poop, I promised to try them didn't I? OK, adding to next shopping trip...will report back!
when I run out of pop tarts, I'm switching to Peter's light N creamy ice cream as my go to "dirty" carb source 0 -
I had one for you last night, Sara - had almost doubled my protein goal, hit my fat goal and still had tons of carbs left, so macked down a toaster strudel as a late night snack. They're not bad, but they ain't no pop tart! :bigsmile:
That Anvilhead! Always willing to take one for the team!0 -
When practicing IIFYM, it is recommended that you choose mostly whole and nutrient dense foods to comprise the majority of your intake. Fresh vegetables, fruits, meats, fish, etc, and at the same time, leaving some room for a discretionary intake. A common and very reasonable recommendation would be about 80/20. That is to say, that if you've got a calorie target of 2500, you'd eat approximately 2000 calories of whole and nutrient dense foods with a calorie bank of 500 to eat whatever you would like while still hitting your calorie and macronutrient targets by end of day .
It's a flexible approach, and it works.
The fact that this isn't staringly obvious to people - especially, it seems on the main boards makes me want to weep for humanity.0 -
This would be a better fit in the clean eating thread. Good article nonetheless.0 -
This would be a better fit in the clean eating thread. Good article nonetheless.
You can remove it if you want. I thought most of the last part was pretty relevant to IIFYM/Flexible dieting.All-or-Nothing Dieting & Eating Disorder Risk
In 1997, a general physician named Steven Bratman coined the term orthorexia nervosa [21], which he defines as, “an unhealthy obsession with eating healthy food.” It reminds me of the counterproductive dietary perfectionism I’ve seen among many athletes, trainers, and coaches. One of the fundamental pitfalls of dichotomizing foods as good or bad, or clean or dirty, is that it can form a destructive relationship with food. This isn’t just an empty claim; it’s been seen in research. Smith and colleagues found that flexible dieting was associated with the absence of overeating, lower bodyweight, and the absence of depression and anxiety [22]. They also found that a strict all-or-nothing approach to dieting was associated with overeating and increased bodyweight. Similarly, Stewart and colleagues found that rigid dieting was associated with symptoms of an eating disorder, mood disturbances, and anxiety [23]. Flexible dieting was not highly correlated with these qualities.
Although these are observational study designs with self-reported data, anyone who spends enough time among fitness buffs knows that these findings are not off the mark.
He goes on to talk about applying discretionary calories.0 -
Bump for links!
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Love it, I really think IIFYM is really a hybrid IIFYM/clean eating and I only say that because most of us want the most bang for our buck and not to go to bed hungry so most days we are eating a pound of f#*king chicken and vegetables so that we can hoover a pizza on friday or have some cake at the end of each day and still hit our macros.0
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dammit just realized I replied to a bumped 6 month old thread.1
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dammit just realized I replied to a bumped 6 month old thread.
That is fine. It is one of the ones we use for 'reference' for people so bumping is all good.0 -
If you are lactose intolerant go for the whey isolate, the lactose in that is pretty nill if not completely.interesting thread
What is the downside on Whey protein? or should I start another thread for that?
None as far as I am aware, assuming no intolerance (which is not that likely as it has very low lactose levels).0 -
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In to share this incredibly insightful discussion piece on 'good vs bad' carbs. I figured this was an important part of any IIFYM debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmfI3TLGd4o&feature=c4-overview&list=UUyFjLgx8KwCx7RXKBbnphpg
FWIW, I think Jason is on the cutting edge with his views here, and I completely agree! :bigsmile:
For Chris, the Peters icecream is not great - the Woolies homebrand light is actually a better dirty carb source IMO.0 -
If you are lactose intolerant go for the whey isolate, the lactose in that is pretty nill if not completely.interesting thread
What is the downside on Whey protein? or should I start another thread for that?
None as far as I am aware, assuming no intolerance (which is not that likely as it has very low lactose levels).
I second this ^. I'm lactose intolerant and consistently use ON's Whey Isolates. I don't get any nasty side effects that I could with dairy.0 -
In to share this incredibly insightful discussion piece on 'good vs bad' carbs. I figured this was an important part of any IIFYM debate.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmfI3TLGd4o&feature=c4-overview&list=UUyFjLgx8KwCx7RXKBbnphpg
FWIW, I think Jason is on the cutting edge with his views here, and I completely agree! :bigsmile:
For Chris, the Peters icecream is not great - the Woolies homebrand light is actually a better dirty carb source IMO.
He annoys me some of the time, and he cannot say muesli properly - but good video.0 -
yeah what is with that!? I put it down to not commonly using the word Muesli in the US - that's granola there right? It's like he just made up his own pronunciation.
He can be very ranty, but still some good content in there a lot of the time.0 -
bumping for all the great links! My nutrition is my weak point right now! Thanks for all the great info!! :drinker:0
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Tag for IIFYM info and links. 0
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Another good one, thanks guys!0 -
Bump to my feed0
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bump for future reference0
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Tagging to read through and/or watch all of the links over the next couple of days0
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*BUMP* Oh my head with the overwhelming information
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Saving this to read later today.0
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Thanks for the information0
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