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I hate my TDEE
maruby95
Posts: 204 Member
It just makes me mad. Due to a minor medical procedure earlier this week, I sat in the car or laid around most of the day. Of course, as always, I had my Fitbit. And I'm teling you I only burned 1400 calories in a 24 hr period. I mean, seriously? My BMR is 1200 or a little less. And even with lifting 3 times a week and some other exercise plus the normal daily activity of a mom of 4, I only average 1700 per my Fitbit. Very rarely do I ever break 2000. Even on days I've lifted and walked 13,000 steps. Can that really be right?!
But I see all these short, petite women whose TDEEs are like 2200 or more, and I don't get it. Wait, yes I do. I'm just jealous. But I do wonder if my metabolism is still slightly depressed, even after a full reset last fall, and that maybe I could maintain at a higher intake if I tried?
I don't know. I just feel like for all the exercise and activity I do, I should 'get' to eat more. Poor me
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/rant
But I see all these short, petite women whose TDEEs are like 2200 or more, and I don't get it. Wait, yes I do. I'm just jealous. But I do wonder if my metabolism is still slightly depressed, even after a full reset last fall, and that maybe I could maintain at a higher intake if I tried?
I don't know. I just feel like for all the exercise and activity I do, I should 'get' to eat more. Poor me
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May not be wrong to be honest - if I totally lay around all day, my TDEE is only about 1,800 and I am much bigger than you (I weigh 50lb more than you). Age is a large factor so is non-exercise activity.
All the other people you are seeing probably are heavier, have higher LBM, may be more active in the day etc etc etc
I dropped your stats into an online calculator and 1,700 is pretty normal.0 -
I could see that being frustrating... you could try eating over your TDEE for a while with high protein while you're lifting (for maybe 6 months) to do a "bulk" then you'd get to eat more and you'd hopefully increase your LBM which would increase your metabolism slightly so that later you could go back down to your TDEE and maybe it would be higher?0
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Maruby, I was thinking along these same lines myself - my bmr is 1241. My fitbit burn seems so low even when I feel I've been pretty active - for example over 15,000 steps taken, over 7 miles traveled and 10 floors climbed and I've still only burned 1700. Only when I've taken a spinning class or been extremely active over the course of the entire day do I burn beyond that and hardly ever more than 2000.
Even though I thought I was moderately active per Scooby's calculator, from the fitbit it looks like I'm more lightly active even with all the exercise I do.
Guess there's not much we smaller people can do, beyond trying to increase our muscle mass!0 -
Hate mine too! Maybe I need a fit bit because I seem to be maintaining on about 1600 cals. :sad: ETA calculators put my BMR about 1400, so not a lot of space for loss without going under that.0
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I wonder if I'm overestimating my TDEE, as I'm 50 years old, 5'2" and don't seem to be losing on 1600 calories. I thought I was moderately active but now I wonder if my calorie burns fit more with lightly active? Ugh! I hate to decrease my calories, but I do need to know what will work...Is there a good way to estimate calorie burns with heavy lifting? A HRM certainly isn't great - at least it isn't for me! It does fine for running.0
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@elizabeththis: You may be overestimating, yes, especially if there's no scale change. I found the fitbit to be helpful in determining my general daily activity rate. I've found that one workout a day, even if every day for 45 mins to an hour does not make me moderately active! I have to keep moving, and last week I experimented by going for a leisurely 1/2 hour walk at the end of the day to raise my burn. It helped but also kind of made me feel like a hamster on a treadmill, trying to move those numbers!
@heatherloveslily - 200 between bmr and tdee seems like such a small margin unless you are pretty sedentary. It couldn't hurt to get a fitbit or body media device to help pin down your true burn number.
I'm 47 so age is very much a factor at work in my case. I can't seem to get any loss greater than .5 lb every month unless I drop below 1500 calories - consistently - and that's with daily exercise. I lost 10 lbs. at a pretty good rate last year on a 1100 - 1300 calorie diet but then I plateaued after four months and couldn't lose another ounce and even started gaining once I increased calories the tiniest bit. Which led me to the Eat More to Weigh Less idea, which is great for those with a higher TDEE, not so good for those of us smaller people who have less wiggle room. So now I'm eating a bit more, and weighing a bit more, but at least my nails, skin and hair look better for the extra nutrition!
I'm trying to keep my focus on building muscle right now - as I see it's the only way to go, long-term. Hopefully the extra fat that bothers me aesthetically will melt off as my muscle mass increases.0 -
@amanda_gent. Thanks for the response. It doesn't make me feel better, but it makes me feel better, if you know what I mean! I'm pretty interested in getting a fitbit &/or trying to get my BMR tested in a bodpod or some such device, in order to get a clearer picture of what's going on. I think I have pretty good LBM for a woman my age, but there is definitely a layer of fat that could be lost and I aim to do it!0
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I'm only barely 5'0 on a tall day and my BMR is only around 1150 due to my age and weight, but according to my fitbit my average TDEE over the past month is 2030. I usually take between 12000 and 18000 steps in a day and climb a lot of stairs (during the work week anyway).
I think why my fitbit calculates my calorie estimate to be so high is that I have this tendency to walk really fast, even when I don't have to. It might be crediting me with running while I'm actually walking...I really think this is the case when I'm at work and I walk very quickly around my lab and between labs, sometimes even run.
I do not believe my fitbit is accurate at all when it comes to estimating my TDEE. It way overestimates. So I eat at a 500-700 calorie per day deficit from what fitbit says I burn. I eat about 1450 calories per day
On one of my "sedentary" days I burn about 1600 calories. On a stay in bed sick all day type of day I burn around 1450.0 -
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@amanda_gent. Thanks for the response. It doesn't make me feel better, but it makes me feel better, if you know what I mean! I'm pretty interested in getting a fitbit &/or trying to get my BMR tested in a bodpod or some such device, in order to get a clearer picture of what's going on. I think I have pretty good LBM for a woman my age, but there is definitely a layer of fat that could be lost and I aim to do it!
BMR is not tested in a Bodpod. Bodyfat % is measured.
Now from that you can get pretty decent, best you'll get outside an RMR test, of what your normal BMR based on LBM could be.
Since that is the start of all the math, pretty useful.
But if you get an RMR test, and they don't know your BF%, then is it high or low from what it should be? Unknown.
And if you have it suppressed because of undereating for your level of activity, well, then that is NOT a number you want to support, you want it higher.
Go for the Bodpod if desired, but realize while it can allow some useful info, it has limitations, just not as much as I think an RMR test has.0 -
I'm only barely 5'0 on a tall day and my BMR is only around 1150 due to my age and weight, but according to my fitbit my average TDEE over the past month is 2030. I usually take between 12000 and 18000 steps in a day and climb a lot of stairs (during the work week anyway).
I think why my fitbit calculates my calorie estimate to be so high is that I have this tendency to walk really fast, even when I don't have to. It might be crediting me with running while I'm actually walking...I really think this is the case when I'm at work and I walk very quickly around my lab and between labs, sometimes even run.
I do not believe my fitbit is accurate at all when it comes to estimating my TDEE. It way overestimates. So I eat at a 500-700 calorie per day deficit from what fitbit says I burn. I eat about 1450 calories per day
On one of my "sedentary" days I burn about 1600 calories. On a stay in bed sick all day type of day I burn around 1450.
FitBit is basing sleeping time on your Harris BMR calc, non-moving and slow moving time on RMR based on that BMR, and steps and movement based on actually pretty accurate calc's for pace and calories burned with your weight.
FitBit is going to usually inflate if your exercise from the hip (or wherever it's attached) appears to be a lot of steps, but it really isn't.
It is going to deflate lifting where it has no idea what you are doing. Actually, that would be given RMR value except the walking around to lift movements.
Oh, and some people have enough BF% that the Harris BMR they base calc's on is inflated 200-400 over better estimated Katch BMR value.
That would cause inflation to the whole day.0 -
@heatherloveslily - 200 between bmr and tdee seems like such a small margin unless you are pretty sedentary. It couldn't hurt to get a fitbit or body media device to help pin down your true burn number.
I'm 47 so age is very much a factor at work in my case. I can't seem to get any loss greater than .5 lb every month unless I drop below 1500 calories - consistently - and that's with daily exercise. I lost 10 lbs. at a pretty good rate last year on a 1100 - 1300 calorie diet but then I plateaued after four months and couldn't lose another ounce and even started gaining once I increased calories the tiniest bit.
That's what I thought. I'm actually pretty active-weights 2-3x a week and dance 3-4x a week for 1-2 hrs each. And I don't have a completely sedentary job. I was losing slowly on 1400-1500. 1600 might be too much for loss. I'm not even that small 5'4", 136). Recent blood tests all normal, but I am 41). Wondering if my actual BMR is lower.0 -
@amanda_gent. Thanks for the response. It doesn't make me feel better, but it makes me feel better, if you know what I mean! I'm pretty interested in getting a fitbit &/or trying to get my BMR tested in a bodpod or some such device, in order to get a clearer picture of what's going on. I think I have pretty good LBM for a woman my age, but there is definitely a layer of fat that could be lost and I aim to do it!
BMR is not tested in a Bodpod. Bodyfat % is measured.
Now from that you can get pretty decent, best you'll get outside an RMR test, of what your normal BMR based on LBM could be.
Since that is the start of all the math, pretty useful.
But if you get an RMR test, and they don't know your BF%, then is it high or low from what it should be? Unknown.
And if you have it suppressed because of undereating for your level of activity, well, then that is NOT a number you want to support, you want it higher.
Go for the Bodpod if desired, but realize while it can allow some useful info, it has limitations, just not as much as I think an RMR test has.
Thanks for the info. I think I'll try to make this happen. Doubt very much I've under eaten, unless it's been associated with too much activity to support level of calories consumed. My resting HR is darn low - under 50 first thing in am. I know that's a nice sign of cardiovascular health, but I also believe it means I don't burn lots of calories since my body seems to be running pretty efficiently. That is also what makes me wonder if my RMR might be lower than predicted.....0 -
I'm only barely 5'0 on a tall day and my BMR is only around 1150 due to my age and weight, but according to my fitbit my average TDEE over the past month is 2030. I usually take between 12000 and 18000 steps in a day and climb a lot of stairs (during the work week anyway).
I think why my fitbit calculates my calorie estimate to be so high is that I have this tendency to walk really fast, even when I don't have to. It might be crediting me with running while I'm actually walking...I really think this is the case when I'm at work and I walk very quickly around my lab and between labs, sometimes even run.
I do not believe my fitbit is accurate at all when it comes to estimating my TDEE. It way overestimates. So I eat at a 500-700 calorie per day deficit from what fitbit says I burn. I eat about 1450 calories per day
On one of my "sedentary" days I burn about 1600 calories. On a stay in bed sick all day type of day I burn around 1450.
FitBit is basing sleeping time on your Harris BMR calc, non-moving and slow moving time on RMR based on that BMR, and steps and movement based on actually pretty accurate calc's for pace and calories burned with your weight.
FitBit is going to usually inflate if your exercise from the hip (or wherever it's attached) appears to be a lot of steps, but it really isn't.
It is going to deflate lifting where it has no idea what you are doing. Actually, that would be given RMR value except the walking around to lift movements.
Oh, and some people have enough BF% that the Harris BMR they base calc's on is inflated 200-400 over better estimated Katch BMR value.
That would cause inflation to the whole day.
Thanks. The Harris Equation doesn't take into account my high BF%. According to my sale I'm 34.0-36.0% body fat (I can gain 2% body fat in an hour apparently...lol). I'm not sure about my scales accuracy, because using calipers it's 24.0% and using online calculators it's 23.6-23.8%.
I'm probably around 30% body fat, so it's pretty high, which lowers my BMR, hence why my fitbit way overestimates my calorie burn.0 -
Thanks for the info. I think I'll try to make this happen. Doubt very much I've under eaten, unless it's been associated with too much activity to support level of calories consumed. My resting HR is darn low - under 50 first thing in am. I know that's a nice sign of cardiovascular health, but I also believe it means I don't burn lots of calories since my body seems to be running pretty efficiently. That is also what makes me wonder if my RMR might be lower than predicted.....
Low HR while doing activities means you are more efficient in delivering and using oxygen to burn fuel, heart doesn't have to beat as fast. Cardio efficiency, higher VO2max than you had in the past. Doesn't mean the same as mechanical efficiency that is actually burning the calories.
But, same weight and pace, you'd burn the same amount of calories if fit or unfit.
In that case, high HR means more carbs burned, low HR means more fat burned.
Now if you lose weight, less burned, unless you now push harder.
But for most activities, your getting more efficient with the movement (like walking or jogging), is a very small change in burning less calories than what occurs because your VO2max went up.
There is just so much energy required to move mass, and there isn't a lot of variance even between people.
Now, if you reached the low RHR because of doing just enough cardio, 3 x 30 min weekly, you likely have not gotten a lower RMR.
If you train for big endurance events with 4 x 60 or more min, yes your RMR may be lower.
What HRM are you using to decide you must not be undereating?
Any Polar without a VO2max stat will badly underestimate your calorie burn if you are fit as you are, but BMI is still considered bad.0 -
Maruby, I was thinking along these same lines myself - my bmr is 1241. My fitbit burn seems so low even when I feel I've been pretty active - for example over 15,000 steps taken, over 7 miles traveled and 10 floors climbed and I've still only burned 1700. Only when I've taken a spinning class or been extremely active over the course of the entire day do I burn beyond that and hardly ever more than 2000.
Even though I thought I was moderately active per Scooby's calculator, from the fitbit it looks like I'm more lightly active even with all the exercise I do.
Guess there's not much we smaller people can do, beyond trying to increase our muscle mass!
@amanda_gent- I had a feeling you would be able to relate
. I think the only answer here is a real bulk (it keeps coming back to that, doesn't it?!), which will have to wait until fall. Or maybe a time machine to make us younger. Hmmmm....
For now: I move, I lift, I eat, I move some more. Rinse and repeat.
Thanks for indulging my rant, guys.0 -
I had this exact same rant with my fitbit today too, so I can empathize. My BMR is around 1250 (Harris and Katch give me about the same number.) Yesterday I was completely sedentary, no work out, and the day was an hour shorter (!) so my fitbit TDEE was only 1411! I've crunched the numbers over the last 3 months or so, and my fitbit has turned out to be accurate for me. Even with workouts I have to work to hit 1700kcal/day.
So I just have to super accurate with my calorie counting since there's so little room for error. *sigh* No one said life was fair! 1 -
Thanks for the info. I think I'll try to make this happen. Doubt very much I've under eaten, unless it's been associated with too much activity to support level of calories consumed. My resting HR is darn low - under 50 first thing in am. I know that's a nice sign of cardiovascular health, but I also believe it means I don't burn lots of calories since my body seems to be running pretty efficiently. That is also what makes me wonder if my RMR might be lower than predicted.....
Low HR while doing activities means you are more efficient in delivering and using oxygen to burn fuel, heart doesn't have to beat as fast. Cardio efficiency, higher VO2max than you had in the past. Doesn't mean the same as mechanical efficiency that is actually burning the calories.
But, same weight and pace, you'd burn the same amount of calories if fit or unfit.
In that case, high HR means more carbs burned, low HR means more fat burned.
Now if you lose weight, less burned, unless you now push harder.
But for most activities, your getting more efficient with the movement (like walking or jogging), is a very small change in burning less calories than what occurs because your VO2max went up.
There is just so much energy required to move mass, and there isn't a lot of variance even between people.
Now, if you reached the low RHR because of doing just enough cardio, 3 x 30 min weekly, you likely have not gotten a lower RMR.
If you train for big endurance events with 4 x 60 or more min, yes your RMR may be lower.
What HRM are you using to decide you must not be undereating?
Any Polar without a VO2max stat will badly underestimate your calorie burn if you are fit as you are, but BMI is still considered bad.
I'm using a Polar FT7, so no VO2max stat. My BMI is in the normal range. I've been trying to lose my last 9 pounds for awhile and this thread makes me consider that 1600 might be a bit too close to maintenance for me.0 -
You may be overestimating, yes, especially if there's no scale change. I found the fitbit to be helpful in determining my general daily activity rate. I've found that one workout a day, even if every day for 45 mins to an hour does not make me moderately active! I have to keep moving, and last week I experimented by going for a leisurely 1/2 hour walk at the end of the day to raise my burn. It helped but also kind of made me feel like a hamster on a treadmill, trying to move those numbers!
Let me first confess that I'm a total geek. I created a spreadsheet of all my stats (see ... geek) and learned that the biggest correlation to my drop in weight is keeping my “lightly active” time up there. It correlated significantly higher than any other single variable including the “highly active” time.
I thought working out every day would qualify me as something else but my FitBit taught me that Iam actually very sedentary.:explode:
I've got to find ways to keep moving little bits throughout the day. :bigsmile:0 -
You may be overestimating, yes, especially if there's no scale change. I found the fitbit to be helpful in determining my general daily activity rate. I've found that one workout a day, even if every day for 45 mins to an hour does not make me moderately active! I have to keep moving, and last week I experimented by going for a leisurely 1/2 hour walk at the end of the day to raise my burn. It helped but also kind of made me feel like a hamster on a treadmill, trying to move those numbers!
Let me first confess that I'm a total geek. I created a spreadsheet of all my stats (see ... geek) and learned that the biggest correlation to my drop in weight is keeping my “lightly active” time up there. It correlated significantly higher than any other single variable including the “highly active” time.
I thought working out every day would qualify me as something else but my FitBit taught me that Iam actually very sedentary.:explode:
I've got to find ways to keep moving little bits throughout the day. :bigsmile:
IMO, NEAT (non exercise activity) is a highly under-used 'tool' for weight loss. It keeps the calorie burn up but does not stress the body like more intensive cardio does.0 -
You may be overestimating, yes, especially if there's no scale change. I found the fitbit to be helpful in determining my general daily activity rate. I've found that one workout a day, even if every day for 45 mins to an hour does not make me moderately active! I have to keep moving, and last week I experimented by going for a leisurely 1/2 hour walk at the end of the day to raise my burn. It helped but also kind of made me feel like a hamster on a treadmill, trying to move those numbers!
Let me first confess that I'm a total geek. I created a spreadsheet of all my stats (see ... geek) and learned that the biggest correlation to my drop in weight is keeping my “lightly active” time up there. It correlated significantly higher than any other single variable including the “highly active” time.
I thought working out every day would qualify me as something else but my FitBit taught me that Iam actually very sedentary.:explode:
I've got to find ways to keep moving little bits throughout the day. :bigsmile:
IMO, NEAT (non exercise activity) is a highly under-used 'tool' for weight loss. It keeps the calorie burn up but does not stress the body like more intensive cardio does.
^^^^^^^^^
I have a desk job but I get up regularly to get more tea and use the bathroom (Because, more tea).
But also like -- I take the train, and at the train station there are 3 kinds of people who wait for the train. People who sit on a bench or lean against a pole. People who stand there and wait. And Me. Who walks back and forth from one end of the platform to the other or jiggles around in place when its too crowded. People look at me like I'm a weirdo but I am quite happy to be able to eat as much as I do and stay not-fat.
I also walk to get my lunch, rather than driving and some other little things.
But not everyone has those options so ----
There are programs you can install on your phone or PC that do nothing but send you little alerts to stand up - like "hey its been 30 minutes since you last stood up". And then you can take a lap around your office. I also have been known to do things like take conference calls while standing up. Although not so much anymore. But even just standing is more work than sitting - not a TON no, but its something. Might as well.0 -
I also agree with an increase in NEAT as the secret weight-control weapon. Now I have come to understand that's why I gained some weight a few years ago in the first place - I moved away from the Big City where I had a long commute involving walking, cars, trains, subways and lots of stairs. Now in my small town I drive a whole lot more and even though I'm more gym-active and eat well, that built-in daily activity doesn't exist anymore.
Not saying I miss the commute, but hey, I pretty much ate whatever I wanted then and knew nothing of MFP, BMR and TDEE! (First world problems...)0 -
You may be overestimating, yes, especially if there's no scale change. I found the fitbit to be helpful in determining my general daily activity rate. I've found that one workout a day, even if every day for 45 mins to an hour does not make me moderately active! I have to keep moving, and last week I experimented by going for a leisurely 1/2 hour walk at the end of the day to raise my burn. It helped but also kind of made me feel like a hamster on a treadmill, trying to move those numbers!
Let me first confess that I'm a total geek. I created a spreadsheet of all my stats (see ... geek) and learned that the biggest correlation to my drop in weight is keeping my “lightly active” time up there. It correlated significantly higher than any other single variable including the “highly active” time.
I thought working out every day would qualify me as something else but my FitBit taught me that Iam actually very sedentary.:explode:
.I've got to find ways to keep moving little bits throughout the day. :bigsmile:
IMO, NEAT (non exercise activity) is a highly under-used 'tool' for weight loss. It keeps the calorie burn up but does not stress the body like more intensive cardio does.
I find your "geeky" chart very interesting and NEAT as an important "tool" for weight loss makes sense. Even more reason to eagerly anticipate heavy gardening in the near future - extra exercise and fresh homegrown veggies. WIN-WIN :happy:0 -
I think your spreadsheet is awesome, Kirsten! I love spreadsheets, too. I use Heybale's (the parts I understand, at least), and have added sheets to track my measurements and workouts.
I would love to get more accurate numbers for RMR, BMR, and TDEE but am not entirely sure how to go about it. I use a Polar FT4 during workouts, but now wonder if I should invest in a better one that includes VO2. Then I wonder if the money would be better spent on a BodyMedia device?
I've done OK on weightless, and have just about reached my initial goal. But I'm worried about bumping up calories to maintain, and then increasing to lift, without having more accurate numbers.0 -
I think your spreadsheet is awesome, Kirsten! I love spreadsheets, too. I use Heybale's (the parts I understand, at least), and have added sheets to track my measurements and workouts.
I would love to get more accurate numbers for RMR, BMR, and TDEE but am not entirely sure how to go about it. I use a Polar FT4 during workouts, but now wonder if I should invest in a better one that includes VO2. Then I wonder if the money would be better spent on a BodyMedia device?
I've done OK on weightless, and have just about reached my initial goal. But I'm worried about bumping up calories to maintain, and then increasing to lift, without having more accurate numbers.
You've made it so far without them, I'd skip them.
You'll be dealing with numbers that are so small in inaccuracies, it would take you a month to probably see for instance a true 1 lb gain of fat if you accidentally ate avg 125 cal more daily. Or a week of 500 extra daily. I think you would know you did that.
Just have to learn to eat appropriate for your level of exercise.
If you had money for 1 good test, DEXA scan for great LBM estimate, and to see what you might want to work on.
TDEE you already know for this level of activity.
Avg eaten daily + deficit that must exist for your current weight loss amount = TDEE.0 -
I would love to have a DEXA done! And I think you're right in that it would be the most helpful tool at this point. Is that something my doctor has to order, or are there private companies that do them?0
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I would love to have a DEXA done! And I think you're right in that it would be the most helpful tool at this point. Is that something my doctor has to order, or are there private companies that do them?
Private companies, sometimes hospitals using equipment they need anyway but for public. Sometimes advertised as bone density scans which they started out as, so confirm they have the software upgrades and service that also provides muscle mass and other stats.
Even if insurance won't pay all or part, it would be nice to still get the insurance discounted price on it, so check that angle too.0 -
I'm with you!
When I am sendentary my TDEE is 1600 accorning to my fitbit.
I had a bodbod assessment done...and yes they do give you a BMR with your readout...at least they did for me. It was less than 1100. I wish the fitbit site had a way of entering your body fat percentage so that you could get more accurate results with the fitbit. If what the bodpod folk said is correct..my fitbit numbers coud be 200 higher than what I'm actually burning.
YIKES
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I'm with you!
When I am sendentary my TDEE is 1600 accorning to my fitbit.
I had a bodbod assessment done...and yes they do give you a BMR with your readout...at least they did for me. It was less than 1100. I wish the fitbit site had a way of entering your body fat percentage so that you could get more accurate results with the fitbit. If what the bodpod folk said is correct..my fitbit numbers coud be 200 higher than what I'm actually burning.
YIKES
I love to eat!
Are you sure it said BMR?
My report said RMR. and then the standard TDEE tables. Using actual Katch BMR calcs yielded BMR smaller than RMR, as expected.
So 1600 current estimate, if indeed about 1.35 times Harris BMR they use, means BMR of 1185, so only 100 off about. I've seen 200-400 spreads too though.
You can tweak the height on the FitBit site so that the Harris BMR they use yields the same number as Katch BMR using BF%.
Start with BMR tool here and enter the BF% to see your Katch BMR. Note it.
http://www.gymgoal.com/dtools.html
Then remove the BF% to see your Harris BMR.
Now adjust the height first or age (not weight) to make it match. Shorter is smaller BMR, older is smaller BMR.
Now you know what you can change on the FitBit site.
Bad thing is with syncing FitBit or BodyMedia with MFP - MFP uses slightly more accurate Mifflin BMR, compared to their Harris BMR.0 -
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