OHP

dstromley1

Ive noticed alot of you guys do ohp standing and ive never done it before so i gave it a try today. HOLy crap do those tax your core. Do you guys do a seated ohp to finish delts off or what cuz i feel like my delts can handle more but my lower back and core are limiting it, also was wondering if you should stager your feet or stay square, i could move more weight with the stagered stance i noticed but it was because of a hip drive

Chief_Rocka

If you're using a staggered stance it's not an OHP, is a "push press." Push press definitely allows you to move more weight, for the reasons you mentioned.

As far as what you "should" do, if your goal is shoulder strength, I would go with OHP. Although, I supposed mixing in the push press could push your top numbers on the OHP up.

If your core is a limiting factor, use a belt for your heavy sets.

mustgetmuscles1

I do Wendler 5/3/1 for OHP and as accessories I do incline dumbbell press and side lateral raises. That hits the delts pretty hard for that day. And then on bench day I do incline dumbbell press again as an accessory lift.

I stay square and back straight/core tight with as little hip swing as possible. Core work will help improve this lift but this lift also improves core strength. When I started doing this lift it was so awkward I was doing my set with just the bar. Improvements came quickly though.

dstromley1

do you think there better than seated presses? i usualy do DB Presses can use double the weight when seated. ive always been taught more weight through full rom = more mass/strength

Sarauk2sf

I do Wendler 5/3/1 for OHP and as accessories I do incline dumbbell press and side lateral raises. That hits the delts pretty hard for that day. And then on bench day I do incline dumbbell press again as an accessory lift.

I do a variation. I do seated DB OHP as assist for OHP and incline DB bench for bench assist.

mustgetmuscles1

do you think there better than seated presses? i usualy do DB Presses can use double the weight when seated. ive always been taught more weight through full rom = more mass/strength

I think seated is better for isolating the lift from your core but one of the big reasons to do standing OHP is BECAUSE it is a whole body lift.

Sarauk2sf

do you think there better than seated presses? i usualy do DB Presses can use double the weight when seated. ive always been taught more weight through full rom = more mass/strength

I think seated is better for isolating the lift from your core but one of the big reasons to do standing OHP is BECAUSE it is a whole body lift.

^^agreed.

cajuntank

Ok, well I feel like an idiot. It was not till I saw this thread that it ever occurred to me if I should be doing OHP seated or standing. I am just so used to doing them seated that I never paid attention that the StrongLifts program which I'm doing calls for the exercise to be standing...duh! I am not starting over!:laugh:

SideSteel

Totally random:

I do them both. I enjoy bb more though.

tameko2

If you're using a staggered stance it's not an OHP, is a "push press." Push press definitely allows you to move more weight, for the reasons you mentioned.

As far as what you "should" do, if your goal is shoulder strength, I would go with OHP. Although, I supposed mixing in the push press could push your top numbers on the OHP up.

If your core is a limiting factor, use a belt for your heavy sets.

Isn't the difference between a push press and an OHP whether or not you bounce at the knee, not where your feet are placed?

kinsellae

Bump to read through later...stuck at same OHP weight for so long!

EvgeniZyntx

do you think there better than seated presses? i usualy do DB Presses can use double the weight when seated. ive always been taught more weight through full rom = more mass/strength

I think seated is better for isolating the lift from your core but one of the big reasons to do standing OHP is BECAUSE it is a whole body lift.

^^agreed.

As a general exercise I prefer OHP over seated for this reason. I'm generally looking for whole body work and not isolation. Pretty much goal dependent.

DaniH826

Bump to read through later...stuck at same OHP weight for so long!

Try fractionals?

Sarauk2sf

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