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TheKitsune6
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I usually like Cyanide and Happiness, but that whining about Fake Geek Girl crap is sexist and obnoxious. Sorry!0
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I usually like Cyanide and Happiness, but that whining about Fake Geek Girl crap is sexist and obnoxious. Sorry!
How is it sexist and obnoxious? It's a trend that exists. It'd be like finding valley girls, emos, hipsters or bros sexist and obnoxious
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It's probably the whole "This girl won't date me so she must not be a real geek" thing.0
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It's probably the whole "This girl won't date me so she must not be a real geek" thing.
Kind of a stretch don't you think? I have experienced such accusations before, but there is also a subculture of trendy geeks which is what this comic is poking fun at. I still don't see hoe that is sexist or obnoxious to point out a fad.0 -
Because by assuming that any female who is trendy AND a geek MUST be fake, you're stereotyping gamer girls in general. By mocking it and continuously perpetuating that image, it makes it so a lot of girls can't just be themselves, they seem to have to PROVE they're a 'real geek girl'.
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Right. Why try to say that all people have to be socially inept and fashion oblivious, or else they are not a real geek? I am fashionable, social, listen to great music, AND can probably beat you down in Doctor Who, LOTR, Harry Potter knowledge. I think that makes me more awesome, not a fake geek :noway:0
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I've read the cartoon lazily a few times over the past half hour
Looked at the comments
Read the cartoon
Looked at the comments
Is it not just a cartoon?
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Well if you want to take it that way I won't stop you.0
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I know plenty of trendy geekgirls who are out and out geekgirls. No question about it. Its super hot.
But there are the others who they will tear into who are just fake.
Its just like hipsters trying to pretend to be trendy geekboys. Ya know what I am sayin'!?!0 -
I've read the cartoon lazily a few times over the past half hour
Looked at the comments
Read the cartoon
Looked at the comments
Is it not just a cartoon?
*edited adding a question mark
Yes but this is the internet.0 -
Its just like hipsters trying to pretend to be trendy geekboys. Ya know what I am sayin'!?!
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When I was in grade school and on through high school I had glasses, braces, acne. I like to play chess, magic the gathering, D&D and pretty much every game that is nerdy. I passionately love Star Trek and Star Wars and pretty much every movie or TV show that is nerdy.
As a result I was mocked and ridiculed every single day of my life. I would have to endure judgement from my fellow classmates every single day for being interested in things that they did not deem acceptable. Often it went as far as physical violence against me. Day after day they sold my dignity for popularity. I used to get so angry I wondered what was wrong with me.
I saw that if you were passionately in love with professional sports nobody called you a nerd. I tried to get in to it but I just couldn't stay interested in watching sports. I wanted to be interested in things that were "safe" to be interested in. I desperately wanted someone to be my friend but it never happened. Now that we are adults we sometimes forget that in grade school and high school you actually can't be friends with someone that is unpopular lest you become unpopular yourself.
Then the very funny and entertaining show "The Big Bang Theory" came out and it took the world by storm. The fashion world took advantage of this wildfire and started what is now known as the "Geek Chic" lines. It was the same attractive models dressed up in the cloths that I used to get made fun of for wearing. People that beat me up in high school started talking about how they were always nice to the nerds in high school. The whole time I am sitting there thinking "No you weren't!"
Some people are actually in love with the geek image that was created to cash in on the trend that was prevalent at the time. That is what I think the comic is trying to make fun of. The problem is that the genuine geek girls do get caught in the crossfire.
I don't think the comic is intending to be malicious. I think that the comic is pointing out that if I were to go out to "The Gap" and pick up one of these girls who isn't sure which series Captian Picard is from but she is claiming she is all about the nerds and took her back to meet my former self she would turn me down flat. To be honest I am not even upset by that fact. It is what it is.
The truth is the vast majority of nerds are not models dressed up on cloths that some designer thinks are stereotypically nerdy. The bullies didn't back down if we stood up to them. Not every group of nerds has one hot girl in it that is also a nerd but just doesn't realize that she is hot. After you get beaten up nobody ever walks over to help you up and the only thing that will ever end the nightmare is graduation. Fortunately academics was never a challenge for me so that was pretty easy.
I just realize how long this got and how negative this can sound. Rest assured the story does have a happy ending. I graduated high school joined the army used the army money to pay for college got a degree and I now work in IT. I am married to a history teacher and life is great. I just wanted to give a realistic picture of what being a nerd was in my day because I felt it was relevant to the comic.0 -
I'm sorry to hear you had it so rough in high school. Bullying is never OK no matter what the target is being bullied for.
On your comment about a girl at the Gap, and taking her back to meet your former self... that's just the same issue of trying to date out of your league, no matter what kind of stuff the girl is into or how she dresses.
I couldn't expect to walk up to a guy who is super hot, no matter what genre of stuff he is into, and expect him to be interested in younger me, because that guy was just always out of my league. It works the same both ways, you just hear guys complain about it more. "Hot girls don't like me, I am sad." Well, there are just as many girls in the opposite boat.
There is also a difference between being a geek who is really into geeky things and being socially awkward. The two don't always go together. There are plenty of people who are geeks, plenty of people who are socially awkward, and plenty of people who are both.
Basically, said girl in cartoon is a geek who is not socially awkward, being judged for not wanting to date a guy who IS socially awkward. No one wants to be around the socially akward person, no matter what type of stuff they are into.
ETA: She CLAIMS to be socially awkward, but isn't. It is stupid that she is claiming that when it is not a desirable trait.0 -
When I was in grade school and on through high school I had glasses, braces, acne. I like to play chess, magic the gathering, D&D and pretty much every game that is nerdy. I passionately love Star Trek and Star Wars and pretty much every movie or TV show that is nerdy.
As a result I was mocked and ridiculed every single day of my life. I would have to endure judgement from my fellow classmates every single day for being interested in things that they did not deem acceptable. Often it went as far as physical violence against me. Day after day they sold my dignity for popularity. I used to get so angry I wondered what was wrong with me.
I saw that if you were passionately in love with professional sports nobody called you a nerd. I tried to get in to it but I just couldn't stay interested in watching sports. I wanted to be interested in things that were "safe" to be interested in. I desperately wanted someone to be my friend but it never happened. Now that we are adults we sometimes forget that in grade school and high school you actually can't be friends with someone that is unpopular lest you become unpopular yourself.
Then the very funny and entertaining show "The Big Bang Theory" came out and it took the world by storm. The fashion world took advantage of this wildfire and started what is now known as the "Geek Chic" lines. It was the same attractive models dressed up in the cloths that I used to get made fun of for wearing. People that beat me up in high school started talking about how they were always nice to the nerds in high school. The whole time I am sitting there thinking "No you weren't!"
Some people are actually in love with the geek image that was created to cash in on the trend that was prevalent at the time. That is what I think the comic is trying to make fun of. The problem is that the genuine geek girls do get caught in the crossfire.
I don't think the comic is intending to be malicious. I think that the comic is pointing out that if I were to go out to "The Gap" and pick up one of these girls who isn't sure which series Captian Picard is from but she is claiming she is all about the nerds and took her back to meet my former self she would turn me down flat. To be honest I am not even upset by that fact. It is what it is.
The truth is the vast majority of nerds are not models dressed up on cloths that some designer thinks are stereotypically nerdy. The bullies didn't back down if we stood up to them. Not every group of nerds has one hot girl in it that is also a nerd but just doesn't realize that she is hot. After you get beaten up nobody ever walks over to help you up and the only thing that will ever end the nightmare is graduation. Fortunately academics was never a challenge for me so that was pretty easy.
I just realize how long this got and how negative this can sound. Rest assured the story does have a happy ending. I graduated high school joined the army used the army money to pay for college got a degree and I now work in IT. I am married to a history teacher and life is great. I just wanted to give a realistic picture of what being a nerd was in my day because I felt it was relevant to the comic.
I like this, i didn't think it sounded negative either - like you said it has a happy ending and you didn't let yourself get pigeon holed either. You aimed higher and got there.
I like your take on geek 'image' as well which has to some extent been bastardised from history, had a label slapped on it and marketed to death. I used to wear NHS glasses and got picked on, now theyre all the rage, or movie slogan/character t shirts. I got slated for writing my university final paper on Spider-Man yet i'll bet this is common place now - go figure.
Yet despite all the **** i went through at school, no more than most im sure, it taught me to aim higher, drop some weight but also embrace my geeky introvert side and ask out the hot girl because i had something different over other guys that might have looked better but lacked substance, or something
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Hold up, wait a minute, let me put my 2 words innit.
Are we srsly geting our panties in a twist over fake/not fake geek girl?
"ITS OFFENDING MY FEELINGS AS A GAMER/GEEK GIRL!"
Maybe take 2, no, 3 steps back and get us some healthy distance to ourself?
Sure I giggle snort when i see 14 year old girls charging my 30 year old mates with "omigosh, starwars tshirt,ilovestarwars,anddoctorwho and and and harrypotter/startrek/whateverisalltherageontumblr, please validate my existance with your interest in my uniqueness".
But I giggle snort like that on young goths and gothettes in clubs.13 year old "lesbians" (who let them in the clubs srsly?!).
Can't say the fake or not geek girls/boys annoy me more than any teenager/early20 who is just trying to validate their existance (ta charlie brooker, now i overuse the term, you sexy *kitten* you) by means of fitting into some cathegory.
Girls with fake marilyn monroe quotes, they drive me angry.
"if you cant handle me on my worst, then you dont deserve me on my best"...GEEEEEEEEEEET OUT.
What type of retarded wisdom is that. OOOOOOOUT.
I got no idea what am trying to say.
Ah, chill, people are just trying to fit in, don't get offended by web comics, real sexism has much uglier and less funny face .
And bullying in highschool was some sort of rite of passage for me, ashamed to say i was unleashing my sarcasm on freshmans during last year myself, but it was tough love not malicious hate
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Hold up, wait a minute, let me put my 2 words innit.
Are we srsly geting our panties in a twist over fake/not fake geek girl?
"ITS OFFENDING MY FEELINGS AS A GAMER/GEEK GIRL!"
Maybe take 2, no, 3 steps back and get us some healthy distance to ourself?
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+1Hold up, wait a minute, let me put my 2 words innit.
Are we srsly geting our panties in a twist over fake/not fake geek girl?
"ITS OFFENDING MY FEELINGS AS A GAMER/GEEK GIRL!"
Maybe take 2, no, 3 steps back and get us some healthy distance to ourself?
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On your comment about a girl at the Gap, and taking her back to meet your former self... that's just the same issue of trying to date out of your league, no matter what kind of stuff the girl is into or how she dresses.
I couldn't expect to walk up to a guy who is super hot, no matter what genre of stuff he is into, and expect him to be interested in younger me, because that guy was just always out of my league. It works the same both ways, you just hear guys complain about it more. "Hot girls don't like me, I am sad." Well, there are just as many girls in the opposite boat.
This is an important point. I get sick of hearing guys complain about women being shallow and not being able to see past the superficial, Outside Stuff. There are plenty of studies (which I cannot link to right now because I was learning about all this before the interwbes were the primary source of learning--hopefully things have changed, but not by appearances) which show that what for convenience's sake I will call 'objective hotness disparity' between heterosexual couples is overwhelmingly in favor of men; men are much, much less likely to date a woman who is less attractive than they are, in part because of status issues, and women are much, much more likely to. The most typical pairings involve the female being slightly hotter than the male. Obviously other factors are responsible for more noticeable divergence. One reason for the typical woman-hotter-than-man ratio is that women generally have lower self-esteem on average than men. Again, this may have changed in recent years as younger women seem more confident and less subject to what magazines and advertising do to us, but still... the old cartoon where a beautiful woman looks in a mirror and sees a disgusting fat pig, while a man who actually is a disgusting fat pig looks in a mirror and sees an Adonis, is still relevant today. Women get it, men may not.
I get sick to my stomach when men who are not objectively attractive but may (or may not!) consider themselves valuable mating material for other reasons--wealth, career success, academic excellence, etc--complain that they don't get to date Very Objectively Hot Women and assume it's because the *women* are shallow. Pull your head out of your navel. If you are a not-so-hot male who has money and/or power coming out of your ears and you have not magnetized Hot Women, there may be something else wrong that--live with it--makes you undesirable. And you should be considering women who are closer to your own level of total attractiveness.
And no, I'm not a resentful "uggo" by most people's standards--a little above average, and very appealing to some men for whatever reason, even at a higher weight. I have occasionally been with men who I considered too good looking for me but then again I have very low physical self-esteem built very deep into my bones, so maybe they weren't. My husband felt like he'd won the lottery based solely on appearances when we got together.
All that said, I do appreciate how annoying it is when someone adopts a pretense like that as a fashion that will likely be discarded as soon as cultural tides turn. I don't apologize for women like that, but the cartoon does seem a bit self-indulgent for a certain kind of man who may like to blame the women automatically. I get just as angry with men who pretend that intelligence and personality are really important, then end up getting involved over and over with idiot bimbos for exactly as long as they can pretend the woman is smarter, or nicer, than she really is.0 -
On your comment about a girl at the Gap, and taking her back to meet your former self... that's just the same issue of trying to date out of your league, no matter what kind of stuff the girl is into or how she dresses.
I couldn't expect to walk up to a guy who is super hot, no matter what genre of stuff he is into, and expect him to be interested in younger me, because that guy was just always out of my league. It works the same both ways, you just hear guys complain about it more. "Hot girls don't like me, I am sad." Well, there are just as many girls in the opposite boat.
This is an important point. I get sick of hearing guys complain about women being shallow and not being able to see past the superficial, Outside Stuff. There are plenty of studies (which I cannot link to right now because I was learning about all this before the interwbes were the primary source of learning--hopefully things have changed, but not by appearances) which show that what for convenience's sake I will call 'objective hotness disparity' between heterosexual couples is overwhelmingly in favor of men; men are much, much less likely to date a woman who is less attractive than they are, in part because of status issues, and women are much, much more likely to. The most typical pairings involve the female being slightly hotter than the male. Obviously other factors are responsible for more noticeable divergence. One reason for the typical woman-hotter-than-man ratio is that women generally have lower self-esteem on average than men. Again, this may have changed in recent years as younger women seem more confident and less subject to what magazines and advertising do to us, but still... the old cartoon where a beautiful woman looks in a mirror and sees a disgusting fat pig, while a man who actually is a disgusting fat pig looks in a mirror and sees an Adonis, is still relevant today. Women get it, men may not.
I get sick to my stomach when men who are not objectively attractive but may (or may not!) consider themselves valuable mating material for other reasons--wealth, career success, academic excellence, etc--complain that they don't get to date Very Objectively Hot Women and assume it's because the *women* are shallow. Pull your head out of your navel. If you are a not-so-hot male who has money and/or power coming out of your ears and you have not magnetized Hot Women, there may be something else wrong that--live with it--makes you undesirable. And you should be considering women who are closer to your own level of total attractiveness.
And no, I'm not a resentful "uggo" by most people's standards--a little above average, and very appealing to some men for whatever reason, even at a higher weight. I have occasionally been with men who I considered too good looking for me but then again I have very low physical self-esteem built very deep into my bones, so maybe they weren't. My husband felt like he'd won the lottery based solely on appearances when we got together.
All that said, I do appreciate how annoying it is when someone adopts a pretense like that as a fashion that will likely be discarded as soon as cultural tides turn. I don't apologize for women like that, but the cartoon does seem a bit self-indulgent for a certain kind of man who may like to blame the women automatically. I get just as angry with men who pretend that intelligence and personality are really important, then end up getting involved over and over with idiot bimbos for exactly as long as they can pretend the woman is smarter, or nicer, than she really is.
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...There is also a difference between being a geek who is really into geeky things and being socially awkward. The two don't always go together. There are plenty of people who are geeks, plenty of people who are socially awkward, and plenty of people who are both.
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One definition once said to me is a geek is a nerd with social skills..
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lol I had to jump in and just add this. To pretend to be a Geek is quite well geeky isn't it? So that being said wouldn't that make no fake geeks?
OH and my weight loss is going Great!!!!
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I always just liked what I liked and have never been apologetic about it. Maybe it's because it is such a huge part of my life - while I was still an athlete I was bringing DBZ actions figures to my softball games for luck. I spent time between games reading instead of discussing which tanning product helped even out tan lines the best. In my free time I didn't party with the other girls, I watched cartoons or played video games with my friends. These are all things that I still do to this day because they're integral to my life. It doesn't take effort because it is who I am.
It's also why I don't get defensive if someone were to accuse me of being a "fake". I don't have to prove anything to anyone because I know who I am and I'm comfortable with it.
I have met people who are these "fake geeks" that enjoy something (well enough) and immediately start claiming that they're the biggest fan and know EVERYTHING but when you get excited with them and start talking about it they actually know nothing, then get defensive and surly. Sometimes I even had people write off mutual interest because instead of sharing in excitement, they felt like it diminished their "uniqueness". I related with this comic because that's the type of character I thought it was making fun of.0 -
Maybe I have just never encountered a "fake geek". No one I've ever met feigns an interest in nerdy things to seem "cool". I still get eye rolls anytime I fangirl out over Doctor Who or Harry Potter from most people I know IRL.
ETA: Maybe it's a teenager thing. It's been a good 7-10 years since I was in high school, and geek was still not the rage.0 -
ok the one that gets me in now all of a sudden people are wearing nerd glasses... you know big square thick black framed never look good on anyone glasses that the army still issues out.....
The thing is these people are just wearing the frames..no glass cause they dont need glasses..its for a look ......were was this look when I was in high school lol0 -
the computer gremlin got in and made me double post sorry0
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I always just liked what I liked and have never been apologetic about it. Maybe it's because it is such a huge part of my life - while I was still an athlete I was bringing DBZ actions figures to my softball games for luck. I spent time between games reading instead of discussing which tanning product helped even out tan lines the best. In my free time I didn't party with the other girls, I watched cartoons or played video games with my friends. These are all things that I still do to this day because they're integral to my life. It doesn't take effort because it is who I am.
It's also why I don't get defensive if someone were to accuse me of being a "fake". I don't have to prove anything to anyone because I know who I am and I'm comfortable with it.
I have met people who are these "fake geeks" that enjoy something (well enough) and immediately start claiming that they're the biggest fan and know EVERYTHING but when you get excited with them and start talking about it they actually know nothing, then get defensive and surly. Sometimes I even had people write off mutual interest because instead of sharing in excitement, they felt like it diminished their "uniqueness". I related with this comic because that's the type of character I thought it was making fun of.
I can relate to this. Never in my teenage life did it occur to me to look / act/ dress like everyone else.
Fast forward 30 years......
I now run a gaming shop specialising in board games, M t G, RPG miniatures. I am also now what is considered middle aged, I have 4 children I look like a Mom. But people come in and try to be so knowledgeable and patronising because I don't look like your typical gamer.
Fortunately there are enough lovely people out there to make me forget the prats!0 -
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I wouldn't worry about it.
I'm 40 and when I was at school, there really weren't any 'geeky girls'. My brother used to take me to comic stores and, not only was I the only female in them, I would probably be the only female in them for the next fortnight. I read comics, graphic novels, sat at the back of the class and drew cartoons in my schoolbooks, watched TOS, TNG, the movies - I'd read The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings, The Silmarillion, knew pretty much where the DC and Marvel worlds differed, could build model aeroplanes, knew that anything resembling a long stick instantly became a lightsaber. I'd been taken (by the same brother) to see the Star Wars movies on their first weekends of release and adored all Ray Harryhausen stop frame animations, monster movies and B movies galore....
...I now have a bunch of friends, some of whom were really embarrassed at admitting to being into the same sort of things, as though girls/women have never been impressed by such things. Once they got over their initial shock that I have zombie posters, comic posters, a Hail Hydra mug, The Flash T shirt, Avengers T shirt, Bananaman T shirt and Green Lantern T shirt, watched the same films, read the same comics and still have the same excitement when going to see the Star Trek movie as they did - well, let's say that geeks never really stop being about 12 years old.
The others will 'grow up', leaving the true ones to find each other in later years.0 -
ok the one that gets me in now all of a sudden people are wearing nerd glasses... you know big square thick black framed never look good on anyone glasses that the army still issues out.....
The thing is these people are just wearing the frames..no glass cause they dont need glasses..its for a look ......were was this look when I was in high school lol
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I guess that's the thing though - they're NOT hipster glasses. Nor are they GEEK glasses.
They're glasses.
It's a fashion statement for sure, but why do we feel the need to put ourselves into tidy, neat little categorized boxes to tell the world who we are? Can't we just wear something because we like the way it looks without the need to worry if we're trending outside of our box or far enough into it?0
