TDEE Question (Bulking)
VeinsAndBones
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Had a cardiologist appointment today. He told me to eat 3,000 calories on days that I lift, and 2500 on days that I don't... alot of the TDEE calculators say 2,300 to maintain, 2600-2800 for bulking. Based on my height age and weight, should I follow his advice or stick with the calculator?
Age: 17
Height 5'11
Weight 140lbs
Routine: Reg Parks 5x5
I understand my weight is low, and I'm all for gaining, just not fat :P Looking for muscle
Age: 17
Height 5'11
Weight 140lbs
Routine: Reg Parks 5x5
I understand my weight is low, and I'm all for gaining, just not fat :P Looking for muscle
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Had a cardiologist appointment today. He told me to eat 3,000 calories on days that I lift, and 2500 on days that I don't... alot of the TDEE calculators say 2,300 to maintain, 2600-2800 for bulking. Based on my height age and weight, should I follow his advice or stick with the calculator?
Age: 17
Height 5'11
Weight 140lbs
Routine: Reg Parks 5x5
I understand my weight is low, and I'm all for gaining, just not fat :P Looking for muscle
This is an interesting post on several levels.
I'm curious why a cardiologist is giving you specific intake recommendations.
I'm also curious how he arrived at his numbers.
But having said all that, he's probably not TOO far off.
What are you CURRENTLY eating at (calorie wise) and what has your weight done in the past 4 weeks? That information will be more valuable than a calculator.0 -
He just kinda threw out the 3,000 number off the top of his head, which worries me. I eat pretty consistently around 2300 except on days that I lift (+300-450) I've literally only been lifting about say 2 months in which all my lifts have gone up (Bench 85lb x5; Squat 135lbs x5; Bent over rows 65lbs x5; Military press 25lb dumbbells x5 deadlift 145lbs x5)0
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He just kinda threw out the 3,000 number off the top of his head, which worries me. I eat pretty consistently around 2300 except on days that I lift (+300-450) I've literally only been lifting about say 2 months in which all my lifts have gone up (Bench 85lb x5; Squat 135lbs x5; Bent over rows 65lbs x5; Military press 25lb dumbbells x5 deadlift 145lbs x5)
What has your bodyweight done in the past two months?
What has it done in the past two weeks?0 -
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Well when I first started eating at TDEE my body weight jumped up from 130-135lbs, then I exercised a bit more and was eating at around 2,800 calories a day, (this was too much) my body weight has pretty much stayed at 140lbs for about a week 1/2 now0
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Well when I first started eating at TDEE my body weight jumped up from 130-135lbs, then I exercised a bit more and was eating at around 2,800 calories a day, (this was too much) my body weight has pretty much stayed at 140lbs for about a week 1/2 now
Did your cardiologist advise you on intake for ANY reasons that extend beyond your desire to gain weight and put on some skeletal muscle? Does he have any medical reason to advise you to a specific diet?0 -
He just thinks I'm underweight, he said he wants me up to 175lbs0
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He just thinks I'm underweight, he said he wants me up to 175lbs
He's right. Did he give you the intake recommendation as part of a plan/part of his medical advice to you?0 -
No, he just said 3,000 on days that I lift and 2,500 on rest days, he didn't even really seem to think about it, just kinda pulled it out xD0
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No, he just said 3,000 on days that I lift and 2,500 on rest days, he didn't even really seem to think about it, just kinda pulled it out xD
How many days do you lift?0 -
Assuming you lift 3 x a week., the calories recommended average approx. 2,700 a day.
This is right in the middle of the TDEE calculators for bulking. Also, as you appear to be maintaining on your current intake of about 2,300, this also appears to be a reasonable number for the goal of bulking.
To me, there really is no real difference between the three approaches and it seems to me that following your cardiologists advice makes sense.0 -
An caloric excess of 400 a day? I understand muscle needs calories, but in reality I can really expect to only put say 5-7lbs of lean tissue a year. Like I said before I'm all about gains, just not looking for more fatty tissue. Just got off a cut not too long enough (was fat and lazy before) and I'd prefer not to go through that again0
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I understand muscle needs calories, but in reality I can really expect to only put say 5-7lbs of lean tissue a year.
You're 18 and underweight, that number doesn't apply to you.
Please, read this: http://www.jcdfitness.com/2009/10/the-former-fat-boy-syndrome/0 -
An caloric excess of 400 a day? I understand muscle needs calories, but in reality I can really expect to only put say 5-7lbs of lean tissue a year. Like I said before I'm all about gains, just not looking for more fatty tissue. Just got off a cut not too long enough (was fat and lazy before) and I'd prefer not to go through that again
To add to what rock is saying....you are at the best place to add muscle. New to lifting, male and young. You can reasonably expect to put on a lot more than 5 - 7lb...if you eat enough.
Generally, you can possibly put on 24lb of muscle (or more, depending on genetics, training, diet etc) in your first year.
Doing the math - 24lb a year = 2lb a month = 1/2lb a week.
400 calories excess = 2,800 calories a week excess = about 3/4lb. If 1/2lb is muscle, only 1/4lb is fat - that is a really good theoretical ratio. You need the extra buffer of calories to make sure you maximize the gains.0 -
1/2lb of muscle a week? That's completely contradictory to what my endocrinologist, cardiologist and primary physician have told me...0
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1/2lb of muscle a week? That's completely contradictory to what my endocrinologist, cardiologist and primary physician have told me...
Please see here and notice that Alan Aragon, Lyle McDonald, Martin Berkhan, and others all have predictive models that happen to coincide with each other regarding gain rates, for the most part.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html
Note that previous progress impacts this.0
