How much weight is too fast to lose?

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I started the low carb way just 4 days ago and have lost 7lbs. already. I feel fine, no headaches etc., but isn't this too fast? I have about 90 lbs. to lose so is this why? Any help would be appreciated. oh, I eat approximately 1300 calories per day and average about 30g. carbs.

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  • zynx1234
    zynx1234 Posts: 73 Member
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    your initial weight loss is mostly water weight. After that you should slow down and lose about 1-2 pouds per week. Give it a month and see if it has slowed down.

    Also consider that slower is better... especially from a streched skin stand point. I read that saggyness is a result of quick weightloss....
  • Tobethin608
    Tobethin608 Posts: 47 Member
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    Thanks. If it doesn't slow down should I increase carbs, calories or both?
  • samko1976
    samko1976 Posts: 125 Member
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    The weight loss should slow down soon.
    Read this blog I found it useful about the changes that are happening to your body and answers your question directly.
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/LowcarbNY
  • Laura_beau
    Laura_beau Posts: 1,029 Member
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    The first week of low carbing is like WHOOOOOOOSH, the water weight drops off! For me, I lost a staggering 13lbs in my first week! Then it will slow down. Don't be surprised or too disheartened if you see a 1 or 2 week plateau (or even a slight gain) following week 1. Your body is adjusting to your new lifestyle and will being losing again, but at a slower rate of about 1-2 lbs per week.

    Keep it up! :o)
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
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    The safest weight loss can even be up to 3lbs per week - however, having said that, anything more than 3lbs per week needs to be reviewed by your healthcare provider or specialist who oversee your current health care

    Right now we have some patients who are being monitored by our Endocrinologists. They are teamed up with RD's who are closely working with the patients who are losing weight. We have one patient who is 378lbs and is losing an average of 3-4lbs per week under a low carbohydrate 1800 calorie daily intake. That patient is doing VERY well (we are all cheering her on when she calls in here at the AR department) but the key is, she is keeping her Endo up to date as well as her RD.

    Changes can happen, and with that, keeping them up to date is key because there will be times the intake might need a little tweaking.

    Just be good about staying well hydrated, but please please please please make sure you keep your healthcare providers up to date with what you are doing. Let them advise you directly if you might need more review.

    8-)
  • LowcarbNY
    LowcarbNY Posts: 546 Member
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    but isn't this too fast?

    Understand what happens when you start low carb
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/LowcarbNY/view/the-science-behind-rapid-weight-loss-during-the-1st-week-or-so-of-low-carb-i-e-induction-and-why-it-eventually-slows-down-348757

    You're doing fine I suspect. It will slow down all by itself. Don't be alarmed.
  • clobercow
    clobercow Posts: 337 Member
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    You're not going to implode by losing to quickly. If you're eating enough, meaning enough protein and fat to sustain you, then how ever fast you lose the weight is normal. People worry to much about rate and calories and other dogma spread around here. Eat enough, enjoy the progress. You will know if you eat to little. Your body will tell you. Listen to it.

    Edit: Low carb is like cheat mode for weight loss. I love it and I will continue doing it as it feels totally normal to me. Don't let people fear monger you into not doing something that agrees with you.
  • TheVimFuego
    TheVimFuego Posts: 2,412 Member
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    You're fine, most of it is water weight which will come back just as quick if you eat a carb-heavy meal.

    As others say, listen to your body and don't EVER go hungry.

    Once you are off the sugar craving rollercoaster you'll find that you can judge true hunger better and fuel accordingly.
  • kvalmera
    kvalmera Posts: 129 Member
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    As others say, listen to your body and don't EVER go hungry.

    If I am not mistaken, I think I have read before that you do not believe in the calories in/calories out theory. Excuse me if I am wrong :) BUT my question is, sometimes I am hungry after work (I get off between 2am and 4am from the emergency room) and I try not to eat but I do often sneak some sausage, cheese or maybe some macadamia's and peanut butter. I do try to watch my calorie intake and recently realized I was not eating enough. I up'd my calories and the weight loss stall broke and I am down 4 lbs this week!! Hooray!

    So give me your advice on the calories in and out thing and when low carbing is it abolutely pointless to count/watch caloric intake?
  • TheVimFuego
    TheVimFuego Posts: 2,412 Member
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    If I am not mistaken, I think I have read before that you do not believe in the calories in/calories out theory. Excuse me if I am wrong :) BUT my question is, sometimes I am hungry after work (I get off between 2am and 4am from the emergency room) and I try not to eat but I do often sneak some sausage, cheese or maybe some macadamia's and peanut butter. I do try to watch my calorie intake and recently realized I was not eating enough. I up'd my calories and the weight loss stall broke and I am down 4 lbs this week!! Hooray!

    So give me your advice on the calories in and out thing and when low carbing is it abolutely pointless to count/watch caloric intake?

    At some point calories do count, even low carbing, too much protein will stall you for starters.

    I just don't believe that the main focus should be on them. I think that there are so many generalisations and assumptions made with the calories thing that trying to balance energy in/out every day as a focus is frankly mad. We have not evolved to do this, if the body is healthy then it will adjust for a reasonably varying caloric load and stay fit.

    What happened before we knew about calories, much obesity/diabetes/chronic inflammation/gluten issues/auto-immune disease? Childhood diabetes? No ...

    I think the focus should be on getting the body to process the calories as efficiently as possible and reversing any metabolic damage (caused primarily by eating too much processed junk and sugar) as much as possible.

    It makes sense to me to ensure that the engine is in good order before worrying about what kind of (and how much) fuel to use.

    I believe that eating whole, natural nutrient-dense food that are low in potential allergens (gluten, lactose, etc) will allow the body to take a break from trying to assimilate unnatural food that arrives in concentrations and quantities that we just haven't evolved to handle.

    I am in pretty good shape these days so I have no issues with consuming more calories than my supposed MFP ideal as long as they are from wholesome sources. Obviously I don't go completely nuts but if I'm hungry I will eat. I don't think calories have to be managed that closely for me.

    And this is a good thing, I don't want to be logging forever.

    Given all the below, how can we possibly have to manage energy balance as close as some do in order to stay lean?

    - The resting metabolic rate is an approximation
    - The caloric values for the macronutrients are approximations
    - Exercise calories are a VAST approximation
    - The 1lb of fat = 3500 calories is not true so why do we all take it as gospel?
    - Our body does not HAVE to give up fat in a the face of less energy, and the same for fat gain and extra energy
    - Nowhere in the simplistic calories in/out thing is the thermogenic effect of food addressed. We don't use all the energy in food, some energy is needed to digest and convert it. This is where protein has a distinct advantage.

    We are not test tubes, our body is complex, trying to solve a biological problem with a maths solution is doomed to failure.

    I say enjoy your sausage, cheese, nuts, eggs if you are hungry. It sounds like you have a stressful job, if you are losing weight despite this (the stress hormone cortisol will stall weight loss) then you are on the right track.

    And I don't exercise much, I look back on the 'I need to burn some calories' days as largely a waste of time for fat loss. Exercise is good for you in other ways but for fat loss it's overrated.

    If we all just ate eat real food and listened to our bodies I swear the world would be transformed, it would make MFP a bit redundant too ;)

    Even the word 'calorie' annoys me these days ... ;)
  • Ash2712
    Ash2712 Posts: 19 Member
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    So is there such a thing as to much protien? I am still fairly new, I was told that the more protien the better.
  • praxisproject
    praxisproject Posts: 154 Member
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    Some people are still scared of fat and eat way too much protein to compensate. There's only so many things in food: carbs, fibre, water, protein and fat. Getting used to eating more fat is mostly a mental challenge (most of the younger generations have been raised in a low fat world) our bodies like it just fine and it helps extract more vitamins from the veggies we eat.
  • TheVimFuego
    TheVimFuego Posts: 2,412 Member
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    So is there such a thing as to much protien? I am still fairly new, I was told that the more protien the better.

    As praxisproject says, we shy away from dietary fat given what we have been told and this naturally means we compensate with protein.

    Too much protein, in the extreme, will kill you (look up 'rabbit starvation').

    Chances are we will not get to this level because it is VERY high but even so I feel and perform better on more fat.

    Once you are in full low carb 'fat burner' mode you really only want enough protein to satisfy body maintenance needs, anything above this can't be stored.

    Plus more fat improves my ... uh ... digestive functions :)
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
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    So is there such a thing as to much protien? I am still fairly new, I was told that the more protien the better.
    Only if you are a current kidney-dialysis/disease patient...and a few other slim conditions
  • Ash2712
    Ash2712 Posts: 19 Member
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    Thanks for the response, this has been very helpful. I changed my settings to project the amount of protein I need, and was shocked at the amount of fat...I think this is going to be hard mentally. But I also think that this will help me reach my goal calories too. I have found that I am never hungry much so I've stayed under too often. I do not want to work this hard at making a life style change, just to set myself up for failure. Thanks everyone.
  • kvalmera
    kvalmera Posts: 129 Member
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    Once you are in full low carb 'fat burner' mode you really only want enough protein to satisfy body maintenance needs, anything above this can't be stored.

    So I have been back on low carb (after a bad hiatus) since end of July. I had a few bad days here and there, tried up'ing carbs to eat low glycemic, etc but been faithfully back on induction for few weeks now. I had also incorporated exercise (because I dont want to be toooo flabby as I am losing). So how does one know they are in fat burner mode?? The last few weeks I have been hovering with water weight but this week I have finally broke through and losing almost ONE lb a day, that's been since I up'd my calories. So am I back to losing water weight or fat burner mode? lol

    This stuff just confuses me! I do what works for me but never really got into the science of it all.....
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
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    Once you are in full low carb 'fat burner' mode you really only want enough protein to satisfy body maintenance needs, anything above this can't be stored.

    So I have been back on low carb (after a bad hiatus) since end of July. I had a few bad days here and there, tried up'ing carbs to eat low glycemic, etc but been faithfully back on induction for few weeks now. I had also incorporated exercise (because I dont want to be toooo flabby as I am losing). So how does one know they are in fat burner mode?? The last few weeks I have been hovering with water weight but this week I have finally broke through and losing almost ONE lb a day, that's been since I up'd my calories. So am I back to losing water weight or fat burner mode? lol

    This stuff just confuses me! I do what works for me but never really got into the science of it all.....

    If your body is truly relying on ketones, one of the ways (not always reliable) is to test your urine, midstream, with something called ketostix. On the side of the bottle is a diagram. After you 'catch' the urine on the stick, you wait 15 seconds to get a color reading. That reading needs to be held up close (but not on it), to see what color match you have. Each color represents the amount of ketones found within your urine
  • TheVimFuego
    TheVimFuego Posts: 2,412 Member
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    So I have been back on low carb (after a bad hiatus) since end of July. I had a few bad days here and there, tried up'ing carbs to eat low glycemic, etc but been faithfully back on induction for few weeks now. I had also incorporated exercise (because I dont want to be toooo flabby as I am losing). So how does one know they are in fat burner mode?? The last few weeks I have been hovering with water weight but this week I have finally broke through and losing almost ONE lb a day, that's been since I up'd my calories. So am I back to losing water weight or fat burner mode? lol

    This stuff just confuses me! I do what works for me but never really got into the science of it all.....

    Exercise will help maintain the lean muscle (along with upping the intake, so the body knows it doesn't need eat into it) so I'd say you were losing fat if you've been low carbing for a while.

    Of course the water weight varies naturally in the body, as does the contents of your stomach, time of the month, etc.

    More reasons to throw the scale away and go on gut feel ... literally ;)
  • kvalmera
    kvalmera Posts: 129 Member
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    [/quote]

    If your body is truly relying on ketones, one of the ways (not always reliable) is to test your urine, midstream, with something called ketostix. On the side of the bottle is a diagram. After you 'catch' the urine on the stick, you wait 15 seconds to get a color reading. That reading needs to be held up close (but not on it), to see what color match you have. Each color represents the amount of ketones found within your urine
    [/quote]

    Yes, my strips have been about a medium purple for the past week, a lighter purple/pink the week before
  • kvalmera
    kvalmera Posts: 129 Member
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    [/quote]

    Exercise will help maintain the lean muscle (along with upping the intake, so the body knows it doesn't need eat into it) so I'd say you were losing fat if you've been low carbing for a while.

    Of course the water weight varies naturally in the body, as does the contents of your stomach, time of the month, etc.

    More reasons to throw the scale away and go on gut feel ... literally ;)
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    Thank you sir :)