Need help with my legs

jacksonpt
jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
My legs are starting to look like chicken legs compared to the rest of me. That may change as I cut (I carry almost all my fat on my upper body, especially my torso), but I'm thinking I need to work in a few more leg exercises.

What to people recommend for good leg workouts?

My current routine is:

Monday (full body)
- Squats, 5x5
- Weighted pull-ups, 5x5
- Bench, 5x5
- Upright Rows, 5x5
- Dumbbells shoulder press, 5x5
- Deads, -3x5

Wednesday (pulls)
- Chins, 3x10
- Cleans, 3x8
- Rows, 3x10
- Seated leg curls, 3x10

Thursday (push)
- Incline bench, 3x10
- Decline bench, 3x10
- Dumbbell flys, 3x10
- Leg press, 3x10
- Seated calf raise, 3x10

Saturday (full body)
- Squats, 5x5
- Weighted pull-ups, 5x5
- Bench, 5x5
- Upright Rows, 5x5
- Dumbbells shoulder press, 5x5
- Deads, -3x5


I'd like to leave Mon/Sat as they are... can't add much to those sessions. But I could add another lift or two to the push/pull splits. Full disclosure though... I've only recently added leg press, leg curls, and calf raises to the routine... so maybe I'm in good shape and just need to give it some time?

Thoughts?

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  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    My legs are starting to look like chicken legs compared to the rest of me. That may change as I cut (I carry almost all my fat on my upper body, especially my torso), but I'm thinking I need to work in a few more leg exercises.

    What to people recommend for good leg workouts?

    My current routine is:

    Monday (full body)
    - Squats, 5x5
    - Weighted pull-ups, 5x5
    - Bench, 5x5
    - Upright Rows, 5x5
    - Dumbbells shoulder press, 5x5
    - Deads, -3x5

    Wednesday (pulls)
    - Chins, 3x10
    - Cleans, 3x8
    - Rows, 3x10
    - Seated leg curls, 3x10

    Thursday (push)
    - Incline bench, 3x10
    - Decline bench, 3x10
    - Dumbbell flys, 3x10
    - Leg press, 3x10
    - Seated calf raise, 3x10


    Saturday (full body)
    - Squats, 5x5
    - Weighted pull-ups, 5x5
    - Bench, 5x5
    - Upright Rows, 5x5
    - Dumbbells shoulder press, 5x5
    - Deads, -3x5


    I'd like to leave Mon/Sat as they are... can't add much to those sessions. But I could add another lift or two to the push/pull splits. Full disclosure though... I've only recently added leg press, leg curls, and calf raises to the routine... so maybe I'm in good shape and just need to give it some time?

    Thoughts?

    .

    Instead of sets of 10 do sets of 20+. Do you have access to a GHR stand?
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Instead of sets of 10 do sets of 20+.

    More volume = more size?


    Do you have access to a GHR stand?
    I don't think so. I might be able to do it on a different machine though (thinking the lat pull-down station). I'll have to see...
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    I don't think you need to add more, if anything I would say less (you are working at least 1 part of your leg 4 days/week). If size, not strength is your goal, maybe up the reps to 6-8 on the compound leg movements and 12-15 on the isolation moves, as it will give the muscles more time under tension (the isolation do at a slower more controlled pace, weight will not be as important with these).

    It is my understanding that the rep ranges for legs can be a little higher than for the upper body to achieve the similar muscular responses.

    I have the same issue as you, it is more of genetics than anything else. Even when I ran track at University I was squatting BWx2, and dead lifting a little more than that and still had chicken legs. Still do today, and I have been increasing load and volume on my legs over the past couple of months. The only thing I find working them does is get them more ripped, with very little size gained.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    I don't think you need to add more, if anything I would say less (you are working at least 1 part of your leg 4 days/week). If size, not strength is your goal, maybe up the reps to 6-8 on the compound leg movements and 12-15 on the isolation moves, as it will give the muscles more time under tension (the isolation do at a slower more controlled pace, weight will not be as important with these).

    It is my understanding that the rep ranges for legs can be a little higher than for the upper body to achieve the similar muscular responses.

    I have the same issue as you, it is more of genetics than anything else. Even when I ran track at University I was squatting BWx2, and dead lifting a little more than that and still had chicken legs. Still do today, and I have been increasing load and volume on my legs over the past couple of months. The only thing I find working them does is get them more ripped, with very little size gained.

    You fit types may have more trouble than I did, but upping volume caused my legs to blow up. 1-2 inch increase in the last 3 months in each leg. I do high reps on squats, leg press, and curls
  • musclebuilder
    musclebuilder Posts: 324 Member
    You are working in very limited intensity zones..Training squats twice per week yet the reps/sets are identical. Why not work in different intensity zones and gain additional benefits? For example, 70-90% plus one of those days and 40-60% the other. This lower intensity day will have you working at a lower weight which will allow for higher reps and a more volumous approach which is very effective training approach fo increasing muscular bulk..That is assuming you are eatng to support growth and not cutting as you mentioned you were planning on doing.

    Don't be affraid to make changes to your training.. Remember that vid you posted on periodization? Have a system just like he talks about. Within that system you have to be flexible and plan your training to suit your goals. If my goals are to increase lower body size, my training is going to match my goals. That is the great thing about having a system like that. You can set it up to train numerous components of the neuromuscular system. It does not have to be one or the other. It can be absolute stength, explosive strength, strength endurance, speed strength, traditional BB type work..It is simply about proper organization and management of your training to suit your individual goals and needs.
  • ilovedeadlifts
    ilovedeadlifts Posts: 2,923 Member
    I think sets of 10-12 are fine for your leg extensions, you don't neccessarily have to go to 20+ reps as suggested above.

    I would definitely vary the reps and intensities though. even with assistance work, i always try to change what I'm doing.
    So vary the weights/reps for leg extensions and hamstring curls.
    Throw in some leg presses for high reps.
    stuff like that might help.
  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
    Quads especially seem to respond really well to higher volumes, 15 reps or more.

    Personally i think leg extensions suck, try another compound movement such as leg press or rear foot elevated dumbell split squats.

    split squats for high reps are brutal.
  • ouija86
    ouija86 Posts: 138 Member
    You want bigger legs?

    More volume.

    Train legs on their own day.
  • FoxyMcDeadlift
    FoxyMcDeadlift Posts: 771 Member
    rather than ham curls and calf raises, why not look to do compound leg movements? Lunges, Split Squats, GHRs.
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
    ur routine looks good. how much running r u doing.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    rather than ham curls and calf raises, why not look to do compound leg movements? Lunges, Split Squats, GHRs.

    Good call... Not sure if I can do GHRs, but lunges and split squats are pretty straight forward.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    ur routine looks good. how much running r u doing.

    Virtually none right now... 1, maybe 2 short cardio sessions per week.
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
    ur routine looks good. how much running r u doing.

    Virtually none right now... 1, maybe 2 short cardio sessions per week.
    i thought that maybe u were over doing it with intense running. maybe make sat 5x10 instead of 5x5. its probably more the case of
    patience. we all want our gains yesterday. lol
  • feast4thebeast
    feast4thebeast Posts: 210 Member
    Quads especially seem to respond really well to higher volumes, 15 reps or more.

    Personally i think leg extensions suck, try another compound movement such as leg press or rear foot elevated dumbell split squats.

    split squats for high reps are brutal.

    Totally agreee on the split squats get them in there. Oh and thanks for reminder I need to put them back into my routine :)