Bought the wife a new one!
trackercasey76
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It is a Taurus TCP .380 I really didn't want Pink but the price was right it is technically used but Honestly can't find any evidence of it ever being fired.
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How much does one of those cost? And the ammo. I'm form the UK so don't really know these things but just curious.0
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this was $260.00 "Used" they are about $350.00 new., I bought some cheap ammo yesterday for $20 for 50 rounds, godd personal protection ammo is about $30 for 20 rounds.0
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I'm not too familiar with that .380. Is it similar in size to the LCP? My wife shot my LCP and didn't like it. I'm looking at buying Ruger's new LC380; same size as their LC9, but in .380.
.380 instead of 9mm because I don't want to have so many different calibers. I have .40, .380 and 38cal. I figure I don't need others. Oh, except for my .223, 30.06 and 270 rifles of course.0 -
VERY similar to the LCP (almost identical) and you are right not a very comfortable gun to shoot. I bought just because it is easy to conceal.0
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Nice purchase, I prefered the feel of the Kel-Tec P-3AT. I carried it as a Back-up for several years and now use it as my choice when I go running or am wearing warm weather attire.0
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I'm not too familiar with that .380. Is it similar in size to the LCP? My wife shot my LCP and didn't like it. I'm looking at buying Ruger's new LC380; same size as their LC9, but in .380.
.380 instead of 9mm because I don't want to have so many different calibers. I have .40, .380 and 38cal. I figure I don't need others. Oh, except for my .223, 30.06 and 270 rifles of course.
Nothing wrong with multiple calibers other than having to buy different calibers when you buy ammo. I have .380, 9mm, .40, .45ACP, .45LC and .357 Mag in pistols. .22, .223, 7.62X39, 7.62X54R, 7mm mauser, 30-30 in rifles. .410, 16 guage, and 12 guage in shotguns.0 -
For me, less is more when it comes to this, only because I am not organized enough to keep up with different ammos. LOL That being said, I am still planning on a .308 in the near future.0
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right now i have 30 06, 20 gauge, and 9mm. and i also have a beretta nano on layaway.. no where near as much ammo saved up as i like. soon as this gun grabber crap is over i am going to start getting some bulk. i would like at least 1000 rounds of each. and of course get more guns at some point... debating on 40 or 45..45 is big but slow and lacks penetration. so i think i will go with 40..i dont know..i will see when i get to that point.. hate getting multiple guns needing multiple kinds of ammo..but nature of the beast though..lol....0
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A few years ago I also consolidated my ammo to standardize and not have all kinds of calibers. Now its just 7.62, 5.56, 22 lr, 9mm, 45 and 12 ga. Gone are the 380, 40, 38 special/357 and 30-06. The only oddball I kep was 7.62x54r because I have a dragunov I wont part with.
As for pocket guns- the SA XDs in 45 is just... wow... WAY comfy to shoot and surprisingly accurate out to about 25 feet. Get the +1 mags and it carries almost as much as a 1911. All the power of a 45 in basically an LCP package. Even my wife finds it easy to shoot.0 -
For me, less is more when it comes to this, only because I am not organized enough to keep up with different ammos. LOL That being said, I am still planning on a .308 in the near future.
They are just stacked in the safe with the guns. Not very hard to set ammo on a shelf.0 -
debating on 40 or 45..45 is big but slow and lacks penetration. .
The lack of penetration is a plus, I only want to kill the bad guy not the bystander behind him in my opinion and as far as slow,I have never met a man faster then my .45 so it works for me. . Like the old saying says " I carry a .45 because shooting Twice is silly!"0 -
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Tue 02/12/13 01:58 PMFor me, less is more when it comes to this, only because I am not organized enough to keep up with different ammos. LOL That being said, I am still planning on a .308 in the near future.
They are just stacked in the safe with the guns. Not very hard to set ammo on a shelf.
True, true.
I guess the REAL reason I prefer to keep it simple is convenience, and the fact I get .40 for free from my deptartment. I used to carry a .380 as back up. I now carry a .38 with +p as my back up. So, I just don't want to bother myself with too many calibers beyond what I already have. I thought about switching to a .45 as my duty weapon, however, I didn't jump on it fast enough and they (my dept.) closed that as an option. Oh well, I think .40 will do the job just as well0 -
i have seen studies that most deaths by guns are those that can penetrate and pierce organs. if the rounds slows and spreads before it hits anything major then all your doing is wounding them. not stopping them.0
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Tue 02/12/13 01:58 PMFor me, less is more when it comes to this, only because I am not organized enough to keep up with different ammos. LOL That being said, I am still planning on a .308 in the near future.
They are just stacked in the safe with the guns. Not very hard to set ammo on a shelf.
True, true.
I guess the REAL reason I prefer to keep it simple is convenience, and the fact I get .40 for free from my deptartment. I used to carry a .380 as back up. I now carry a .38 with +p as my back up. So, I just don't want to bother myself with too many calibers beyond what I already have. I thought about switching to a .45 as my duty weapon, however, I didn't jump on it fast enough and they (my dept.) closed that as an option. Oh well, I think .40 will do the job just as well
Understandable. I know other people like that, I just like having a variety of calibers and different guns. It's kind of like a hobby collecting them. I don't even shoot some of them very much.0 -
i have seen studies that most deaths by guns are those that can penetrate and pierce organs. if the rounds slows and spreads before it hits anything major then all your doing is wounding them. not stopping them.
Stopping someone and killing them is not always the same. A good .45 hollow point that spreads and takes someone off of their feet will certainly stop them and possibly not kill them where you can shoot a meth head full of holes with 9mm FMJ and not stop them immediately but they later bleed out and die. Shot placement is more important than caliber. I'd rather be shot in the toe with a .50 BMG than in the heart with a .220 -
i have seen studies that most deaths by guns are those that can penetrate and pierce organs. if the rounds slows and spreads before it hits anything major then all your doing is wounding them. not stopping them.
Stopping someone and killing them is not always the same. A good .45 hollow point that spreads and takes someone off of their feet will certainly stop them and possibly not kill them where you can shoot a meth head full of holes with 9mm FMJ and not stop them immediately but they later bleed out and die. Shot placement is more important than caliber. I'd rather be shot in the toe with a .50 BMG than in the heart with a .22
Well said!! I carry my .45 with some NASTY Hollow point hand loads that are designed to open WIDE and send all of their energy into the target and bounce around in the chest like a saw blade. But what ever gun YOU are comfortable with is the best one!0 -
i have seen studies that most deaths by guns are those that can penetrate and pierce organs. if the rounds slows and spreads before it hits anything major then all your doing is wounding them. not stopping them.
Stopping someone and killing them is not always the same. A good .45 hollow point that spreads and takes someone off of their feet will certainly stop them and possibly not kill them where you can shoot a meth head full of holes with 9mm FMJ and not stop them immediately but they later bleed out and die. Shot placement is more important than caliber. I'd rather be shot in the toe with a .50 BMG than in the heart with a .22
Well said!! I carry my .45 with some NASTY Hollow point hand loads that are designed to open WIDE and send all of their energy into the target and bounce around in the chest like a saw blade. But what ever gun YOU are comfortable with is the best one!
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i have seen studies that most deaths by guns are those that can penetrate and pierce organs. if the rounds slows and spreads before it hits anything major then all your doing is wounding them. not stopping them.
Stopping someone and killing them is not always the same. A good .45 hollow point that spreads and takes someone off of their feet will certainly stop them and possibly not kill them where you can shoot a meth head full of holes with 9mm FMJ and not stop them immediately but they later bleed out and die. Shot placement is more important than caliber. I'd rather be shot in the toe with a .50 BMG than in the heart with a .22
Well said!! I carry my .45 with some NASTY Hollow point hand loads that are designed to open WIDE and send all of their energy into the target and bounce around in the chest like a saw blade. But what ever gun YOU are comfortable with is the best one!
Can someone show me proof that a .45 will "take someone off of their feet"? I've heard this a million times, but I've never seen actual proof.
And what makes hand loaded hollow points different from, say, store bought hollow points?0 -
Can someone show me proof that a .45 will "take someone off of their feet"? I've heard this a million times, but I've never seen actual proof.
And what makes hand loaded hollow points different from, say, store bought hollow points?
Physics =(0 -
Can someone show me proof that a .45 will "take someone off of their feet"? I've heard this a million times, but I've never seen actual proof.
And what makes hand loaded hollow points different from, say, store bought hollow points?
Physics =(
Oh yeah...physics. Isn't that where for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction...like if the force of the bullet hitting the target was enough to knock him off his feet, then the force required to achieve that would be enough to knock the shooter off their feet? Or am I missing something.0 -
Oh yeah...physics. Isn't that where for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction...like if the force of the bullet hitting the target was enough to knock him off his feet, then the force required to achieve that would be enough to knock the shooter off their feet? Or am I missing something.
NO!
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Oh yeah...physics. Isn't that where for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction...like if the force of the bullet hitting the target was enough to knock him off his feet, then the force required to achieve that would be enough to knock the shooter off their feet? Or am I missing something.
NO!
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My boyfriend keeps telling me that he wants to get me one of these. I am a girly girl for sure but no way I would carry a pink gun. :laugh: I am currently in the market for something with pretty pearl grips, will probably have to be customize because even most of those I have seen are pink .0
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i have seen studies that most deaths by guns are those that can penetrate and pierce organs. if the rounds slows and spreads before it hits anything major then all your doing is wounding them. not stopping them.
Stopping someone and killing them is not always the same. A good .45 hollow point that spreads and takes someone off of their feet will certainly stop them and possibly not kill them where you can shoot a meth head full of holes with 9mm FMJ and not stop them immediately but they later bleed out and die. Shot placement is more important than caliber. I'd rather be shot in the toe with a .50 BMG than in the heart with a .22
Well said!! I carry my .45 with some NASTY Hollow point hand loads that are designed to open WIDE and send all of their energy into the target and bounce around in the chest like a saw blade. But what ever gun YOU are comfortable with is the best one!
Can someone show me proof that a .45 will "take someone off of their feet"? I've heard this a million times, but I've never seen actual proof.
And what makes hand loaded hollow points different from, say, store bought hollow points?
Sure. Come to my house and we will try it out. lol. You can handload as "hot" as you want where store bought are whatever the manufacturer loads up. The .45 I was referring to are .45LC and they are designed for killing grizzly bears by Buffalo Bore.0 -
45's dont take people off their feet. That is hollywood - like most pistol rounds solid hits will drop them or maybe make them stumble and fall backwards which is a product of shock and reflexes not energy transfer throwing them back. There are more then enough videos out there of people being shot in combat with all kinds of rounds and they basically crumple - there is no fly back 30 feet and bounce of a wall action.
Defense ammo these days are light years ahead of what it used to be. You can thank the 1986 Miiami Shoot Out with the FBI versus Platt and Matix for that. The 9mm silver tips failed and the 38+P was highly ineffective (though it appears one probably knocked matix unconcious taking him out of the fight within seconds of the gunfight- he was a noncombatant after that with Platt doing all the damage primarily with a Ruger Mini-14). I would highly suggest purchasing this book to help understand the dynamics of that fight, effectivity of rounds used but especially the WILL to fight displayed by both the FBI and Platt:
http://www.amazon.com/Forensic-Analysis-April-1986-Firefight/dp/1581604904
The above does have crime scene and autopsy photos of the perps and is considered pretty much THE defintive study on the reconstruction of that gunfight.
Other then that- this is why you practice putting multiple rounds into an opponent. Put your sight on their COM and keep shooting until they fall out of the sight picture. The human body is VERY good at shrugging off a single hit- not so good at multiple hits on top of each these overload and seriously disrupt the bodies ability to recover and reset for the fight. And psitol rounds suck at killing a person - there is about an 85% survival rate with pistol rounds. This drops significantly when shot by a rifle- and rifles have a higher percentage of "one shot stops".
Of course as good guys though we must be aware of our surroundings as every round we fire leaves the barrel with a lawyer attached....0 -
Sure. Come to my house and we will try it out. lol. You can handload as "hot" as you want where store bought are whatever the manufacturer loads up. The .45 I was referring to are .45LC and they are designed for killing grizzly bears by Buffalo Bore.
What does killing a grizzly have to do with knocking someone off their feet? Buffalo Bore didn't engineer rounds that violated physics as far as I know.0 -
Sure. Come to my house and we will try it out. lol. You can handload as "hot" as you want where store bought are whatever the manufacturer loads up. The .45 I was referring to are .45LC and they are designed for killing grizzly bears by Buffalo Bore.
What does killing a grizzly have to do with knocking someone off their feet? Buffalo Bore didn't engineer rounds that violated physics as far as I know.
Lol, I think you all are misunderstanding what I meant there. I am not saying that they will physically pick the person up and put them 10 feet into the wall behind them like in Arnold movies. I simply meant if you get hit with a .45LC +P hollow point loaded for the velocity and power that these things are loaded you will not be staying on your feet for long.0 -
Sure. Come to my house and we will try it out. lol. You can handload as "hot" as you want where store bought are whatever the manufacturer loads up. The .45 I was referring to are .45LC and they are designed for killing grizzly bears by Buffalo Bore.
What does killing a grizzly have to do with knocking someone off their feet? Buffalo Bore didn't engineer rounds that violated physics as far as I know.
Lol, I think you all are misunderstanding what I meant there. I am not saying that they will physically pick the person up and put them 10 feet into the wall behind them like in Arnold movies. I simply meant if you get hit with a .45LC +P hollow point loaded for the velocity and power that these things are loaded you will not be staying on your feet for long.
Ahhh... I concur.0 -
Goddamnit, you just burst my bubble. I thought the bad guys ALWAYS flew through air, over the fence and through the wall. I know that's what they taught us in the academy! Hey, wait a second, I'm not so sure I should believe anything you're saying...you're wearing pink bunny ears! lol45's dont take people off their feet. That is hollywood - like most pistol rounds solid hits will drop them or maybe make them stumble and fall backwards which is a product of shock and reflexes not energy transfer throwing them back. There are more then enough videos out there of people being shot in combat with all kinds of rounds and they basically crumple - there is no fly back 30 feet and bounce of a wall action.
Defense ammo these days are light years ahead of what it used to be. You can thank the 1986 Miiami Shoot Out with the FBI versus Platt and Matix for that. The 9mm silver tips failed and the 38+P was highly ineffective (though it appears one probably knocked matix unconcious taking him out of the fight within seconds of the gunfight- he was a noncombatant after that with Platt doing all the damage primarily with a Ruger Mini-14). I would highly suggest purchasing this book to help understand the dynamics of that fight, effectivity of rounds used but especially the WILL to fight displayed by both the FBI and Platt:
http://www.amazon.com/Forensic-Analysis-April-1986-Firefight/dp/1581604904
The above does have crime scene and autopsy photos of the perps and is considered pretty much THE defintive study on the reconstruction of that gunfight.
Other then that- this is why you practice putting multiple rounds into an opponent. Put your sight on their COM and keep shooting until they fall out of the sight picture. The human body is VERY good at shrugging off a single hit- not so good at multiple hits on top of each these overload and seriously disrupt the bodies ability to recover and reset for the fight. And psitol rounds suck at killing a person - there is about an 85% survival rate with pistol rounds. This drops significantly when shot by a rifle- and rifles have a higher percentage of "one shot stops".
Of course as good guys though we must be aware of our surroundings as every round we fire leaves the barrel with a lawyer attached....
Seriously though, that is why I often practice "failure drills" - two to the body and one to the head, or at the very least, multiple shots.0
