Has anyone lost a large amount of weight eating more?
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Should I maybe try using the K-M BMR of 1410 instead of the Harris 1850 and drop down?
There shouldn't be that much difference in the different BMR calculators. If by K-M BMR you mean the number that MFP calculates for you, that is a calorie deficit calculation from TDEE. Not a BMR calculation. They call it BMR on the tools here and they tell you which formula they use but then they ask your activity level and then they deduct based on how many pounds per week you tell it you want to lose. This is not BMR, it's a number with calorie deficit built in.
Understanding this concept is important.
By K-M I mean Katch McArdle (or however it's spelled) - the one that uses body fat percentage as well. I understand TDEE vs BMR and all that. Thanks though!
My KM number is not very different from the Harris. It seemed very strange that it would be more that 400 different for you.
Yeah, I thought it was strange, too. I have most of my weight in my stomach, so I wonder if that measurement throws it off somehow.
THIS is why I'm confused, lol
I'm still not losing. Granted, I had a bad week w/TOM and a huge party yesterday, so I'm trying to stick it out, but with my WI today, I am right back to where I was on April 1st. That's 5 weeks of hard work with nothing to show for it. Very very very discouraging. Not sure how much longer I'll be sticking with this calorie intake.0 -
Of course then I have to worry that I either didn't wait long enough, or didn't increase enough.
This stuff is frustrating, lol. At least I know I can maintain, and not starve doing it
*sigh. I'll stick with it for a few more weeks. But it's depressing to see the number on the scale not change.0 -
I'm where you are at this point, been a week since I stopped losing weight despite the 1200 cal diet. Thinking about the years of dieting, and being "careful", I never ate BMR much less tdee yet always gained. I'd start and stop exercise routines for the same problem of not seeing results. The best results I've seen were on 800 cal diet on the program Transformations, using HCG shots, and also on phentermine. Right now what led me to upping cals is my hair falling out for the past 2 months.. It's so scary I have to braid my hair all the time. I'm afraid of gaining now being on 1925 cals and exercising an hour 6x a week. Did you ever lose the weight from eating more? I saw this thread and know it's old, I just wanted to hear some feedback on how your journey has been please. I'm trying to be patient but it's driving me nuts getting on the scale daily.0
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I am slowly losing weight eating more. I have dropped about 15 pounds and a size and a half since starting to eat more and strength train. I don't do a ton of true "cardio". My exercise consists of a lot of walking, some mini runs, a little time on the arc trainer or elliptical and cleaning a cat shelter every Sunday (and some Saturdays).
Before eating more and strength training, I had stopped losing weight at 1200 calories net after losing 25 before that. My period had stopped, my hair was falling out, I was exhausted 24/7 and craving red meat like nothing else.
I now have energy. I had to up my calories even more since I do so much on the weekends. It took a little adjusting for my body and for me to wrap my head around this process. I am so glad I did. It has been 15 lbs since mid November, but looking at it that is still a lot.
I recommend logging a day of what you used to eat before you started your weight loss progress at all. See what kind of calories you were consuming before (and if you weren't exercising at the time take that into consideration as well). I logged a couple normal days and they were at 3000 - 3500 calories. There were some days that were lower, but not by much. It puts into place where you were gaining (and I wasn't gaining fast) and where you can comfortably lose without the serious health issues.
Also, feel free to look at other em2wl members diaries and blogs. You will get a lot of ideas and can see that you can do this. We are here to support you. I was monitoring my weight daily (to track my trends - I don't recommend it since you can get easily discouraged ... it was to track my water retention). I know now when I retain water etc. so I am weighing once a week or less. I plan on giving my personal scale to a non-profit rummage sale since I can weigh in on a better scale at the gym if I need to.
I monitor my progress by pictures, the mirror, how much I can lift, how much I can run, how my clothes fit and how much better I feel. That is the true measurement (not the stupid scale).0 -
http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced
Try this calculator - it sounds like you are underestimating your activity level. I did. I have kids and I burn at least 3000 on an average day. Was shocked!! Print out the form you'll find, and track yourself for a day or two.
You can afford to be patient because the process of eating more is so much more pleasant than any diet. Your metabolism is damaged and when you feed yourself enough you will heal and feel so much better. Accept where you are and have patience. That's what i am doing. It is hard to trust and have patience with the process.0 -
Wow, you all are such an inspiration! Congrats to you all!0
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Great comments! After years of trainers, meal plans, diet fads and more....I FINALLY GET IT! I even took a big step and did Metabolic testing at my gym to learn more about my body and how I burn calories and what zones are my ideal fat burn zones and heart rates. Is truly science and some math.
I started plateauing recently again...after losing 20 lbs last year I was at a stand still. Burning 600-1100 calories during high intensity workouts 4-5 times a week...I was over training ...doing cardio, Zumba, water aerobics, weights,yoga,etc! Eating super clean, only drinking water, one "cheat meal" a week! etc.
After my test, realized my net intake was too low. Talked to trainers, nutritionists and body building friends and they agreed, My body was staying in "starvation mode". I started increasing my intake and just recently moved to 1800 and can go up to 2000 on workout days. Food is our friend and we have to use it to help us! I find its better to workout in morning so u can gauge ur food intake during the day and add needed healthy calories thru the day. The time before when I increased caloric intake, I started dropping again....so it works! Just be patient...enjoy the journey....drop the top and ride out!
So eat up and trust the science and ur body...I know it's going to take weeks to convince my body that I won't starve it and that it's ok to let go of those unwanted pounds go. Thank goodness for the workouts, did see decrease in body fat and inches. Tons of compliments on how slim I'm looking. Food is 70% of it! Once u get that down, u"ll be golden!
Happy journey!
Shannon, Atl0 -
Yes, I've lost the bulk of my weight (see ticker) on EMTWL. But I never had to do a reset because I'd never undereaten so my metabolism was in fine shape. So I lost immediately doing 10-15% cut of TDEE (with long periods at and just over TDEE when I couldn't be bothered to log and monitor calories). Never less than 1800 to 2200 cals a day. It's taken me just 12 months. So it definitely worked for me.0
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Yes I have lost 104 lbs never eating less than 1800-2300 cals. By the time I add in exercise I net no less than 1400-1500. I started with a paper and pen journal and just walking and dropped 40 lbs. Then I found MFP, with the numbers they gave me I GAINED 20 lbs. Even though I was still eating and tracking well. I had upped my exercise intensity A LOT. I added Zumba, kickboxing, running and heavy lifting. I was eating most of the exercise cals that MFP gave me. At first I blamed the 20 lb gain on birth control pills but after research I found my estimated TDEE and upped my cals then started losing again. Re-lost the 20 gained plus another 40ish and still losing. I have 50 more to go and I know I will get there with determination, patience and not starving myself!
Congratulations! That gives me hope too!0 -
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http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced
Try this calculator - it sounds like you are underestimating your activity level. I did. I have kids and I burn at least 3000 on an average day. Was shocked!! Print out the form you'll find, and track yourself for a day or two.
You can afford to be patient because the process of eating more is so much more pleasant than any diet. Your metabolism is damaged and when you feed yourself enough you will heal and feel so much better. Accept where you are and have patience. That's what i am doing. It is hard to trust and have patience with the process.
Anyone else get a ridiculously high number with this calc? I got well over 4,000 per day? Which would mean even at a significant cut would have my TDEG well over 3,000! I'm currently at 2,000, and I thought my TDEE was more like 2,800. Hmmmm....0 -
What an inspiring thread!! Thank you all!0
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same here...it took a lot of courage to start eating more and hope "now" its my time to shine....i have started eating at my TDEE -15% ,but i am always looking for people who have lost 30-40 pounds using this,it feels right.....this morning only i came across a post about 1200 calories weight loss success and u know what i started doubting my judgement...its just frustating
P.S -i also need to lose about 30 more pounds,but my initial goal is to be at 170 pounds (CW:186)0 -
Anyone else get a ridiculously high number with this calc? I got well over 4,000 per day? Which would mean even at a significant cut would have my TDEG well over 3,000! I'm currently at 2,000, and I thought my TDEE was more like 2,800. Hmmmm....
Ya, that came up on public forums, and almost everyone commented how high it was, only 4 levels, no references as to what it uses. Made us all wonder.0 -
I've lost 53 pounds over the last 15 months, and the most of that time I've been eating more. It did take awhile (maybe a couple of months?) to start seeing real results.0
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so we should eat more or less
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muffinsandcakes wrote: »so we should eat more or less ??
You eat more than bare minimum so you aren't abusing your body while expecting it to work with you for weight loss.
You eat less than you burn daily or on average by a reasonable amount for fat to lose and exercise done.
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I've ditched my scale and use calipers and a tape measure to gauge my progress. It's made me stick with my program (the scale shows a gain but I've definitely lost inches - I know the scale will catch up sooner or later). I weigh myself once-a-month and take measurements weekly.0
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