People who have worked hard to attain a certain level of fitness are some of the most dedicated, hardworking, well informed, respectful and helpful people.

Beautiful does not equal mean or stupid and i hate when normal, out if shape people talk about what other types of people tend to be like.

If i said people who arent at a certain level tend to be lazy, boring and quick to quit on their goals... it wouldnt be fair even if it was based on 'real people ive met'.

It isnt true and neither is the entitled bs.

Just because you are at the top level of fitness doesn't mean everyone who isn't are lazy and not dedicated. I think you should go back and re--read some of the posts. The gist of it all was that some ladies don't really care to meet people just based on their looks, since in some of our experience the guys who were the best looking acted entitled and had no personality. Basically we are saying being beautiful doesn't mean you are a great person. Look at Hallie Berry and other Hollywood stars who are considered beautiful but have rotten personalities.

Nice try ladies I know how it really works. Women scroll through the 10,000,000 emails they get a day and pick out the hottest guys to write back to. Sure, everyone once in awhile you'll throw a normal guy a bone and toss a letter to guy who hasn't spent his entire life perfecting his physique but that's probably only 1 out of every 50 letters tops.

Not always true because although I get a lot of flirts based on my looks, some pass me up because they think my pics are fake and Im catfishing.

Or they're just looking for a boytoy and could care less about getting to know me.

Nice try ladies I know how it really works. Women scroll through the 10,000,000 emails they get a day and pick out the hottest guys to write back to. Sure, everyone once in awhile you'll throw a normal guy a bone and toss a letter to guy who hasn't spent his entire life perfecting his physique but that's probably only 1 out of every 50 letters tops.

Not always true because although I get a lot of flirts based on my looks, some pass me up because they think my pics are fake and Im catfishing.

Or they're just looking for a boytoy and could care less about getting to know me.

I'm just curious...is your profile pic on MFP similar to the ones on a dating site? Sometimes people will treat you in a way that you project to them. Because a guy with a great body like yours may be projecting to others as being nothing but eye candy.

Nice try ladies I know how it really works. Women scroll through the 10,000,000 emails they get a day and pick out the hottest guys to write back to. Sure, everyone once in awhile you'll throw a normal guy a bone and toss a letter to guy who hasn't spent his entire life perfecting his physique but that's probably only 1 out of every 50 letters tops.

Not always true because although I get a lot of flirts based on my looks, some pass me up because they think my pics are fake and Im catfishing.

Or they're just looking for a boytoy and could care less about getting to know me.

There's nothing wrong with having a shirtless pic on your online dating profile, but sorry to say if there is more than one, you look like a body-obsessed d-bag, especially if its your profile pic.

It's an image you project, same way if a man had all pictures of him and his dog I would assume that he was obsessed with his dog.

Is it fair to judge that? No but it's an assumption based on what you project.

Or..it could mean that he is proud of his fitness accomplishments. A hard body takes a lot of work.

I have no problem with men having shirtless pics on a beach, or surfing, or the like... but a mirror shot were you are obvisouly showing off your 6 pack or just a shot of your bicep is a huge turn off for me. Don't know why but it is! Maybe becuase I am looking for more than your body!

I appreciate the time and effort put into achieving said body, I really do...becuase I am working my *kitten* off on mine as well... you'd never, ever catch me posting pics like that on my online dating profile even if I did have it to flaunt. I'd leave that for MFP haha!

If you want body shots, natural action shots are better than selfies and I wouldn't want to date a man obsessed with his body because I would assume he was judging mine all the time. I would never be comfortable curling up with a hard body.

That's true for me as well. I want to be comfortable in that situation, but I would fear I'm being judged or fear he's just going to leave me for someone with a better body. Maybe I won't feel like that when I have a better body, but right now I still struggle with the fact that some hot guys even TALK to me :laugh:

I don't normally post shirtless pics online at all, this is the only site I do it because its a fitness site. I'm here mostly to track my diet, but a lot of people are looking for advice from individuals who have had success. So when you can show that you've had success people tend to value your advice.

But online dating is a different forum altogether. I'm really not trying to show too much skin and I never post topless. I prefer to leave a little mystery. Besides I wanna be sure that they're attracted to me because of who I am before they get to take the shirt off.

I'm actually really shy and I don't like attracting too much attention to myself. I look like I do because I played sports and because exercise is therapeutic for me, which simply means I do it often and with intensity. I've always been a healthy eater and a good cook, so that part just came natural to me. Its just part of my lifestyle like video games, going out for drinks or shopping or any other recreational activity... It doesn't mean that I'm overly egotistic or into myself and as common as that stereotype is, I find it quite annoying. All I can say is, if you are one of those people who judge you're probably missing out on some really great people that just happen to also have great physiques.

It also has no bearing on the types I date. Sure I'd prefer to be matched with somebody who shares the same interests but being ripped is not a per-requisite at all. I love women and I've dated all types. But I won't hang around long if you're shallow.

I don't normally post shirtless pics online at all, this is the only site I do it because its a fitness site. I'm here mostly to track my diet, but a lot of people are looking for advice from individuals who have had success. So when you can show that you've had success people tend to value your advice.

But online dating is a different forum altogether. I'm really not trying to show too much skin and I never post topless. I prefer to leave a little mystery. Besides I wanna be sure that they're attracted to me because of who I am before they get to take the shirt off.

I'm actually really shy and I don't like attracting too much attention to myself. I look like I do because I played sports and because exercise is therapeutic for me, which simply means I do it often and with intensity. I've always been a healthy eater and a good cook, so that part just came natural to me. Its just part of my lifestyle like video games, going out for drinks or shopping or any other recreational activity... It doesn't mean that I'm overly egotistic or into myself and as common as that stereotype is, I find it quite annoying. All I can say is, if you are one of those people who judge you're probably missing out on some really great people that just happen to also have great physiques.

It also has no bearing on the types I date. Sure I'd prefer to be matched with somebody who shares the same interests but being ripped is not a per-requisite at all. I love women and I've dated all types. But I won't hang around long if you're shallow.

Thank you for writing this for me.

Well except the cooking part, and eating healthy part.

I haven't tried the online dating thing. I've toyed with the idea, but am **** scared, so maybe I'm not ready. But if I do, I don't know that I'd show my body much at all... Maybe an average head shot...

Sad thing is that I have a fair bit going against me. Too tall. Six pack. Kids. Very little free time.
I don't even know where I'd even begin.

And Wolfpack, just a thought...profile says you're 35 but your profile pic makes you look much younger. I thought you were in your early twenties just from your little avatar. If I were you and looking for less boytoy-wanting girls, maybe consider choosing photos that make you look older. The one with you and the girl actually makes you look your age (which isn't a bad thing!!).

I'm not looking for anything.. I haven't been on a date in years. I no longer have any online dating accounts, I was just offering my experience from when I used to.

Also my avatar is meant to show what is possible for a man in his mid 30s. Its not an attempt to look younger or attract anything. As I mentioned before I'm not the market anyways.

And Wolfpack, just a thought...profile says you're 35 but your profile pic makes you look much younger. I thought you were in your early twenties just from your little avatar. If I were you and looking for less boytoy-wanting girls, maybe consider choosing photos that make you look older. The one with you and the girl actually makes you look your age (which isn't a bad thing!!).

I'm not looking for anything.. I haven't been on a date in years. I no longer have any online dating accounts, I was just offering my experience from when I used to.

Also my avatar is meant to show what is possible for a man in his mid 30s. Its not an attempt to look younger or attract anything. As I mentioned before I'm not the market anyways.

Ah I missed that.

People who have worked hard to attain a certain level of fitness are some of the most dedicated, hardworking, well informed, respectful and helpful people.

Beautiful does not equal mean or stupid and i hate when normal, out if shape people talk about what other types of people tend to be like.

If i said people who arent at a certain level tend to be lazy, boring and quick to quit on their goals... it wouldnt be fair even if it was based on 'real people ive met'.

It isnt true and neither is the entitled bs.

Just because you are at the top level of fitness doesn't mean everyone who isn't are lazy and not dedicated. I think you should go back and re--read some of the posts. The gist of it all was that some ladies don't really care to meet people just based on their looks, since in some of our experience the guys who were the best looking acted entitled and had no personality. Basically we are saying being beautiful doesn't mean you are a great person. Look at Hallie Berry and other Hollywood stars who are considered beautiful but have rotten personalities.

I think you need reading comprehension in general.

1. Im NOWHERE NEAR the top level of fitness - i just happen to spend the giant's portion of my free time working out and training.

2. What I said was - IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR OR TRUE IF I SAID THAT ANYONE WHO ISN'T IN SHAPE IS LAZY. So don't chastise me and give me my own lesson in return, but with a twisted negative bias toward people who are considered beautiful by the media's standards, as if you aren't contradicting yourself with every word you type.
How do you know what Halle Berry's personality is like WTF

3. My actual point - which you just ignored off-hand because you thought i was saying something negative about people who are not in peak physical condition (oh noes!) - was that just because you are beautiful - doesnt mean you are shallow or entitled - just as being out of shape does NOT mean you are lazy.

You really shouldnt just start naming people and accusing them of having 'rotten personalities' just because of what they look like and what Hollywood rumors you've heard. It just takes away from your credibility even more.

QFT

With regards to being the more attractive one in the relationship.. WTF really people worry about that .... MY worries follow along the lines of can you make my lady part tingly and can we have fun. Obviously I have to find you attractive in order for the first part to be true..

This!

Also I can go to a bar with 3 friends and we will all find different guys attractive just like I am sure it goes the other way.

Back to the topic on hand. I am more likely to respond if the guy asks a question. Even if it is just "Hi, I am Joe. What's your name?"

I am most likely to respond to a really hot picture that comes with a message other than

"U R HOTT WE WUD MAKE BEUTIFULL BABEEZ"

I just had a 20 year old (I am 32) message me 'Attention if you don't marry me you will be single forever' surprisingly his whole profile was shirtless mirror pics.. haha I assume age is the culprit here (barf)