Excess Skin Forum (Surgery or Body Image)
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As I loose weight I have saggy skin too. My upper arms are bad as is my upper thigh area. My tummy is also. Boobs too! My bariatric program will refer you to a Bari Plastics surgeon after you have met your goal and maintained goal weight for 6 months I think if you have followed all the bariatric rules like keeping your appointments, getting your labwork done, not smoking, no alcohol, no caffine, no soda.... I will probably look into it. They give you a discounted rate but it is still expensive and insurance won't cover it most of the time unless you get infections from the loose skin rubbing. I do believe my insurance states it won't cover it if a person has had WLS too. I guess I would just have to pay for it on a health care like credit card or rob some of my retirement funds!
At my WLS support group one woman had her upper arms and upper thighs done about 4 weeks ago. She said the pain wasn't bad. The procedure took 7 hours in Operating Room and she had drains and had to be wrapped daily so she said you have to have someone with you that can help you with that stuff.
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Hi, Deb! I'm interested! I was disappointed no one replied to your earlier post. My legs are a mess but need to wait before I can have any of this done. I don't know if I'm even a candidate for any of it as I had a total knee replacement about five years ago. I wish that surgeon could have helped me out while he was in there doing the knee but he wouldn't.
First of all, thanks for your post. I appreciate it!
Second of all, funny but I need a knee replacement on the right knee. That is partly why I rationalized and wanted to do this first because I've heard from my husbands orthopedic (he's had both knees replaced within 6 wks apart, ouch) that any infection would go directly to the artificial joints. While I don't understand this since it's artificial, I still am concerned. In fact, he has to take mass quantities of antibiotics 1 hr prior to even a dental cleaning.
Good luck with what you find out!
Oh yeah, are you happy you had your knee replaced? Seeing my DH go through it twice REALLY made me nervous about that. In fact, I'm hoping that by removing this excess around my knees it will help buy me a few more years until I need it done but time will tell.0 -
As I loose weight I have saggy skin too. My upper arms are bad as is my upper thigh area. My tummy is also. Boobs too! My bariatric program will refer you to a Bari Plastics surgeon after you have met your goal and maintained goal weight for 6 months I think if you have followed all the bariatric rules like keeping your appointments, getting your labwork done, not smoking, no alcohol, no caffine, no soda.... I will probably look into it. They give you a discounted rate but it is still expensive and insurance won't cover it most of the time unless you get infections from the loose skin rubbing. I do believe my insurance states it won't cover it if a person has had WLS too. I guess I would just have to pay for it on a health care like credit card or rob some of my retirement funds!
At my WLS support group one woman had her upper arms and upper thighs done about 4 weeks ago. She said the pain wasn't bad. The procedure took 7 hours in Operating Room and she had drains and had to be wrapped daily so she said you have to have someone with you that can help you with that stuff.
I worry about the pain and then the cost too.
Thank you so much for your post!
I wish I had heard of this before I had any PS done! I guess because I wasn't in a bariatric program per se explains why I never knew of it. I mentioned to another post that my bariatric surgeon retired within my first year post op and I was never given a referral surgeon or nut. I was so ashamed of having to go through the surgery I isolated myself further from any support of any kind by keeping it a secret too. Hindsight I realize I was a fool and only hurt myself further. I stumbled on help on the web and I'm so thankful!
Only regret is that I didn't find out sooner and definitely before my 70 lb regain, lol.0 -
I don't regret having my knee replaced although it was a very difficult surgery to recover from. I hear it's one of the hardest surgeries to recover from, don't know why, but I believe it. Mine was complicated by this... The orthopedic doctor who did my surgery was the son of a doctor here in town who had his license taken away because they said he was selling prescriptions of narcotics. He claimed innocence and I don't know if he was or not but it made his son (my dr) very reluctant to prescribe pain medicine. After I left the hospital I had terrible non-stop pain that the meds he did prescribe didn't help. A couple of years later, I had toe surgery. That dr prescribed the same pain meds but at twice the strength and twice the dose! For a toe!
So, if you have the surgery, find out about pain meds for after surgery!!!
I should have my other knee done but it was such a difficult experience, I'm waiting until it's absolutely necessary. I can tell that it was worth it though. I do a lot of dancing and go to a folk dance weekend on Thanksgiving where you dance at least eight hours a day. My new knee doesn't bother me at the end but my old knee is usually killing me! So it was worth it.0 -
One more thing about knee replacement surgery... I know two people whose new knees came apart after a couple of years! So I'm actually more careful with my new knee than the old one because of that. I don't want to go through that surgery again! I think that the technology has improved tremendously since my friend's surgery. Theirs was about 10 years ago at least. So, I wouldn't let that stop you but I felt I should mention it. You're really not supposed to do a lot of high impact stuff like jumping, especially if you're overweight. Puts too much stress on the orthotic.
And I forgot to say that I, too, had to take antibiotics before dental appts but I thought they said just for the first five years after. I haven't been to the dentist since the five years have past. My dentist retired and I haven't found another. One of my friends whose knee failed had an infection. Not sure if that's why it failed or if the failure caused the infection. They had to clear up the infection before they could do another replacement.0 -
Thanks for your input AnotherAustin! I truly appreciate it and good luck to you & yours!
Deb0 -
2 wks post op of the inner/outer & anterior thigh, calf & knee lipo surgery. I'm just now getting a little bit back to normal. I had complications with the anesthesia and the pain meds which put me behind schedule in my recovery. The first night I had severe nausea but could only dry heeve since my tummy was so empty with surgery at noon and I could have nothing past midnight the night before. 2nd day I was mostly drugged but kept up all Dr's orders, fluids, legs elevated, ice on, ice off, walk, move, etc. I was so light headed and had the twinkly lights every time I got up to move or go potty. Day 3 I passed out on potty, scared me and hubby very badly. He said my eyes rolled back in my head and I was out for +-3 mins. I can't even talk about what was going on while I was passed out. Just glad it's behind me.
Got stitches out on 1 wk post op. The one behind my knees were growing into the skin so that was fun having yanked out. My iron levels were down from 15 to 8 and my BP was 94/68. No wonder I was having twinkly lights and weak. Oh yeah, my chest also felt like an elephant was sitting on it for the entire first week plus. I kept up the deep breathing and coughing, thinking it was the anesthesia. Nurses had no answers. Comforting, right?! I have to go back on Tuesday to see the Dr for the first time since surgery.
The worst part now is the support garment which is very restrictive but important I'm told and have to wear it 4 more weeks, 24/7 with a break only to shower and launder it. I am, of course, bruised worse than I expected too. I see no difference for all the pain and anguish but I'm told it takes months before you see it. They took 6.25 liters and I weighed today 185 which is the same as I did the morning of surgery. Very swollen so we'll see. Needless to say I'm not a happy camper EXCEPT that I'm happy to be alive!
At this point, I'm done with PS...no 2nd phase thigh lift for me. UNLESS, they find a miracle between now and when I die. Thanks for listening.0 -
I'm sorry you had some complications, but it seems like you are on the right track now. I hope the recovery goes more smoothly.
And thanks for keeping us updated. I'm only two months out of surgery, and I'm interested in getting all the information I can.0 -
At this point, I'm done with PS...no 2nd phase thigh lift for me. UNLESS, they find a miracle between now and when I die. Thanks for listening.
Hang in there dear and keep us posted!! Continue to get well and have a good weekend!:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:0 -
Deb, those surgeries are difficult. There is a lot of bruising. Ithink you should give it a few months. See how happy you are, then go in for a consult on the 2nd surgery. Keep in mind that the 2nd surgery is completely different. No massive bruising. You will be happy with the tighter skin. Please keep up informed. Take care of yourself.0
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As for me, I have just started this journey. I do not like my fat upper arms. I am using all types of lotions, brushes and exercise to stimulate my skin and hoping that my skin has great elasticity and bounces right back. If not, I will have all the surgeries.0
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WOW! I am loving reading thru everyones posts! I have lost almost 90 lbs since surgery and 70+ since joining MFP. I am still a few pounds away from goal. But I definately have excess skin. I am pear shaped and most of my weight loss has been hips and thighs. When I sit down my excess skin puddles around my butt! In clothes I can wear shapers and it is not as noticable.
I am considering my options. For now I am daily moisturizing the skin and taking vitamins to help with the elasticity. For my face I have done laser tightening to help with the wrinkles left behind as my face 'deflated.'
Please keep updating this forum, it is so helpful!
Blessings, Lisa0 -
I have been doing sit ups for the last month or so to see if it will help tighten any of the muscles in my tummy/abs. I do lift three pound dumbells 75 times as arm curls twice a day to try to help with my bat wings. I have been obese all my life so I don't think my skin is gonna snap back. When I first started the WLS process I didn't think I would do or want plastic surgery for the saggy skin but after loosing 47 pre op and now 54 pounds since sleeve surgery things are sure saggy and look bad. Almost worse than when I weighed 270 pounds. UGH!0
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Thanks for everyone's comments! I went to the Dr post op visit and he had few answers to my questions of the complications I had. He did say he had a favor to ask me and that was if he could use my before pics for a panel he was starting with 2 other PS and himself. He was calling the panel the "Deborah Panel" and it's purpose is to study lipo on lower extremities in massive weight loss patients. I gave him my permission if it would help someone else but just asked that my face wasn't in any of the photos, lol. I think that shows that there was definitely a problem in order for him to start this panel and I'm interested in finding out his findings.
I'm healing up nicely but slowly. Dr released me to restart up my normal activities as tolerated so I began my treadmill at 2.0 mph at 10 mins and now I'm up to 20 mins. I'm heading back to my original goal of 60 mins. I'm still very sore and bruised and swollen but that's normal. I look and feel like the marshmallow man on ghostbusters, lol. I go back for a follow up on 11/28. I only have to wear the support garment 24/7 for 17 more days, yippee!
Had I known the effects of the wearing of support garments (I'm now wearing the spanx/flexees) on my contours, I wouldn't have gone ahead with the surgery. Maybe I'll change my mind once the swelling is down but right now I feel like it show's little difference.
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Thought I'd give an update to anyone who is interested. :flowerforyou:
I went to my PS visit Dec 3rd and the swelling has pretty much gone down with the exception of my right ankle area which is weird since he didn't lipo there. I still have hardly any feeling in my calves and that is weird too since he only took a dab out of them. He said his main concentration would be the thighs and that it's difficult to go further down the lower extremities since it is harder the further away from the hearts blood supply for healing. I begged him to just take out some since I'd love to be able to wear boots and haven't been able to find any since I was a teenager due to my entire big legs. (Not just the thighs which are extremely huge.) Anyway, now I believe I've screwed up. Due to my complications with the pain meds, :sick: freaking out post op not to mention the additional cost -I'm scared to do the 2nd phase of the surgery which is the lift. My skin is even looser on the legs which was to be expected but guess I didn't realize how much and now they swing like crazy! There is still tons of fat above my knees too and it still hangs down over my knee caps so badly that you can't even see them now. I am doomed come summer when I want to go to the lake! Will it ever end?!!! :sad:
My next appointment isn't until March. I'll let you know what develops at that point in case anyone is following my journey. Thanks!0 -
WOW! I am loving reading thru everyones posts! I have lost almost 90 lbs since surgery and 70+ since joining MFP. I am still a few pounds away from goal. But I definately have excess skin. I am pear shaped and most of my weight loss has been hips and thighs. When I sit down my excess skin puddles around my butt! In clothes I can wear shapers and it is not as noticable.
I am considering my options. For now I am daily moisturizing the skin and taking vitamins to help with the elasticity. For my face I have done laser tightening to help with the wrinkles left behind as my face 'deflated.'
Please keep updating this forum, it is so helpful!
Blessings, Lisa
Lisa,
Laser tightening? hmmmm, interesting, I wonder if that could be done on my calves at least? In lieu of lift on calf areas since that is impossible to place a discreet scar on the calves according to my PS it would have to run up the back of the leg and look like seemed stocking, lol. Have you heard of anyone doing this procedure on any area other than a face? I've not heard of it period but of course I've lived under a rock, lol at 56 yrs of age.0 -
Thought I'd give an update to anyone who is interested. :flowerforyou:
I went to my PS visit Dec 3rd and the swelling has pretty much gone down with the exception of my right ankle area which is weird since he didn't lipo there. I still have hardly any feeling in my calves and that is weird too since he only took a dab out of them. He said his main concentration would be the thighs and that it's difficult to go further down the lower extremities since it is harder the further away from the hearts blood supply for healing. I begged him to just take out some since I'd love to be able to wear boots and haven't been able to find any since I was a teenager due to my entire big legs. (Not just the thighs which are extremely huge.) Anyway, now I believe I've screwed up. Due to my complications with the pain meds, :sick: freaking out post op not to mention the additional cost -I'm scared to do the 2nd phase of the surgery which is the lift. My skin is even looser on the legs which was to be expected but guess I didn't realize how much and now they swing like crazy! There is still tons of fat above my knees too and it still hangs down over my knee caps so badly that you can't even see them now. I am doomed come summer when I want to go to the lake! Will it ever end?!!! :sad:
My next appointment isn't until March. I'll let you know what develops at that point in case anyone is following my journey. Thanks!
Hang in there. Change is always hard. I do feel if you stick with it you will get a good outcome. You just have to get over the humps or bumps in the road. Thanks for sharing with us.0 -
now I believe I've screwed up. Due to my complications with the pain meds, :sick: freaking out post op not to mention the additional cost -I'm scared to do the 2nd phase of the surgery which is the lift.
THESE PROCEDURES ARE SO COMPLICATED AND HEALING CAN BE SUCH A LONG PROCESS. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FAT OR TISSUE REMOVED. HANG IN THERE. I DON'T THINK YOU SCREWED UP. YOU JUST UNDERESTIMATED HOW TOUGH RECOVERY IS. STAY ON YOUR SURGEON'S CASE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S BOTHERING YOU SO HE CAN HELP YOU HEAL FOR THE NEXT PHASE. I'VE HEARD THAT THE LEGS ARE THE TOUGHEST OF THE POST WL PLASTICS. HOPFULLY AFTER YOUR LIFT YOU WILL SEE THE RESULTS YOU EXPECTED AT THE OUTSET.0 -
Thought I'd give an update to anyone who is interested. :flowerforyou:
I went to my PS visit Dec 3rd and the swelling has pretty much gone down with the exception of my right ankle area which is weird since he didn't lipo there. I still have hardly any feeling in my calves and that is weird too since he only took a dab out of them. He said his main concentration would be the thighs and that it's difficult to go further down the lower extremities since it is harder the further away from the hearts blood supply for healing. I begged him to just take out some since I'd love to be able to wear boots and haven't been able to find any since I was a teenager due to my entire big legs. (Not just the thighs which are extremely huge.) Anyway, now I believe I've screwed up. Due to my complications with the pain meds, :sick: freaking out post op not to mention the additional cost -I'm scared to do the 2nd phase of the surgery which is the lift. My skin is even looser on the legs which was to be expected but guess I didn't realize how much and now they swing like crazy! There is still tons of fat above my knees too and it still hangs down over my knee caps so badly that you can't even see them now. I am doomed come summer when I want to go to the lake! Will it ever end?!!! :sad:
My next appointment isn't until March. I'll let you know what develops at that point in case anyone is following my journey. Thanks!
Hang in there. Change is always hard. I do feel if you stick with it you will get a good outcome. You just have to get over the humps or bumps in the road. Thanks for sharing with us.
Good question...I'm still trying to decide...:grumble:0 -
now I believe I've screwed up. Due to my complications with the pain meds, :sick: freaking out post op not to mention the additional cost -I'm scared to do the 2nd phase of the surgery which is the lift.
THESE PROCEDURES ARE SO COMPLICATED AND HEALING CAN BE SUCH A LONG PROCESS. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FAT OR TISSUE REMOVED. HANG IN THERE. I DON'T THINK YOU SCREWED UP. YOU JUST UNDERESTIMATED HOW TOUGH RECOVERY IS. STAY ON YOUR SURGEON'S CASE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S BOTHERING YOU SO HE CAN HELP YOU HEAL FOR THE NEXT PHASE. I'VE HEARD THAT THE LEGS ARE THE TOUGHEST OF THE POST WL PLASTICS. HOPFULLY AFTER YOUR LIFT YOU WILL SEE THE RESULTS YOU EXPECTED AT THE OUTSET.
Thank you for your post. I really appreciate your encouragement & will keep this in mind.:flowerforyou:0 -
now I believe I've screwed up. Due to my complications with the pain meds, :sick: freaking out post op not to mention the additional cost -I'm scared to do the 2nd phase of the surgery which is the lift.
THESE PROCEDURES ARE SO COMPLICATED AND HEALING CAN BE SUCH A LONG PROCESS. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FAT OR TISSUE REMOVED. HANG IN THERE. I DON'T THINK YOU SCREWED UP. YOU JUST UNDERESTIMATED HOW TOUGH RECOVERY IS. STAY ON YOUR SURGEON'S CASE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S BOTHERING YOU SO HE CAN HELP YOU HEAL FOR THE NEXT PHASE. I'VE HEARD THAT THE LEGS ARE THE TOUGHEST OF THE POST WL PLASTICS. HOPFULLY AFTER YOUR LIFT YOU WILL SEE THE RESULTS YOU EXPECTED AT THE OUTSET.0 -
Thought I'd give an update to anyone who is interested. :flowerforyou:
I went to my PS visit Dec 3rd and the swelling has pretty much gone down with the exception of my right ankle area which is weird since he didn't lipo there. I still have hardly any feeling in my calves and that is weird too since he only took a dab out of them. He said his main concentration would be the thighs and that it's difficult to go further down the lower extremities since it is harder the further away from the hearts blood supply for healing. I begged him to just take out some since I'd love to be able to wear boots and haven't been able to find any since I was a teenager due to my entire big legs. (Not just the thighs which are extremely huge.) Anyway, now I believe I've screwed up. Due to my complications with the pain meds, :sick: freaking out post op not to mention the additional cost -I'm scared to do the 2nd phase of the surgery which is the lift. My skin is even looser on the legs which was to be expected but guess I didn't realize how much and now they swing like crazy! There is still tons of fat above my knees too and it still hangs down over my knee caps so badly that you can't even see them now. I am doomed come summer when I want to go to the lake! Will it ever end?!!! :sad:
My next appointment isn't until March. I'll let you know what develops at that point in case anyone is following my journey. Thanks!
Hang in there. Change is always hard. I do feel if you stick with it you will get a good outcome. You just have to get over the humps or bumps in the road. Thanks for sharing with us.
Good question...I'm still trying to decide...:grumble:0 -
I would love to have my lower stomach and boobs done... I went for a free consultation and was told it will cost 24,000 plus... I am trying to figure out how I can get it done where it is not cosmetic... Ugghhh!!!
I had this done in '95, 2 years after my RNY and I was so happy that my insurance paid for it. The excess skin can cause issues too, mention it to your doctor if it causes chaffing or skin irritations. You never know how they might handle if there are additional medical issues relating to the excess skin.
The bat wings and thighs I wish I could have gotten fixed, but I will just continue to exercise and tone and just deal with it. I just feel better not being 300lbs....I can deal with this little thing.
Wishing you the best...Celia0 -
Deb, I enjoyed reading about your journey and am interested to know your next step. Thanks for so much info and sharing your story. I have lost 120 thus far and don't know what i will be doing.0
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i would kill to get lower tummy and boobs done(never gonna happen tho) :sad: i can live with the bingo wings also would love to get the tops of legs done down to the knees!0
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Two questions for you who have had PS:
1. If your insurance covered it, what sort of issues did you have that made them cover it?
2. If your insurance didn't cover it, what did it cost and how did you finance it?
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I just realized that I forgot to update MFPs on my last follow up in March. I have nothing to report, really. The swelling is all gone and feeling is mostly back but it's been almost 6 months too. The skin is very loose, much worse than prior to the lipo (which was expected) and I will have to live with it for now. I feel very fortunate to have done all the PS that I've done so far and would love to complete the final phase but I can't see charging anymore PS at this time and I haven't the money to pay out of pocket. I believe if money was no object and I could also find a reputable PS who had prior experience with massive weight loss patients and done the legs I would go forward and complete my journey in that area. The legs, I think, are very tricky and you don't hear of many patients who've done them successfully. It's a large area and hard to find PS who have much experience in that area. It's quite costly and I don't think it's worth it unless you have the money and know they can show you several references.
My PS is going to contact his resources and asked me to follow up in another 6 months to see if I changed my mind.
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Thanks so much for update Deb!! As you know I need the leg surgeries also. You give me a lot to think about my friend.0
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I know that because of my age (47) and the fact that I've been overweight/obese all of my adult life, I will eventually have to "deal" with this excess skin. I've only just begun this journey (VGS 12/5/12) but I am already flapping on my belly, back and thighs... Not so worried about the thighs... spanx works wonders in taming the jiggles there but the upper and lower belly, my breasts and this horrible advent of back fat... its making me quite ill...
In my research, I ran across this article... your thoughts?
http://www.alighterme.com/corset-trunkplasty-surgery.html0 -
NO men responses? whats up? Men Don't care ? I do. I want to have tighter skin but I am not sure I will qualify for surgery and there is no way I will be able to pay for it out of pocket.0
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