My diagnosis arrived in 1982 after a routine physical. My lab included an HbA1c result of 12.0, with no genetic factor.

My weight at diagnosis was 270lbs. Clearly morbidly obese and presumably IR, and immediately started on Met and insulin for treatment.

I wasn't as grateful for a diagnosis of T2D back then, as today- I'm very grateful now-living a complication free life with T2D since my diagnosis. To that end-I share in your thoughts of being thankful.

Although I don't have an osa condition-OSA, plays a complicated and significant role in people with diabetes, as both condition's are comorbid, meaning they both interact with each other.

Wishing you the best in working through both of these conditions, and getting positive results.

Mine was found on routine bloodwork also. But I have always been a bread lover. I think I miss that more than the potatoes. : /

I recently read that heredity loads the gun, environment pulls the trigger. Not sure about that one.

I also read and believe that my weight gain came from undiagnosed diabetes. I ballooned in my 50's and am just getting back to a healthy weight. I guess it doesn't matter to me but maybe for my children.

For me...

it just gets tiresome. I have to stop thinking about "why" and focus on the positive.

There are just so many negatives about being type2.
Don't eat this at all, don't eat too much of that (even healthy food...

It makes me depressed and discouraged.
I almost have to put myself on autopilot.

I make healthy foods for my us, But, if, for example, I make beef stew.. I take the potatoes out of my
portion,eat a tiny serving, and try to fill up on salad .He gets a whole wheat roll.
I get. Nothing.

He eats a cookie later in the evening and I drink herb tea.

I've been 200-300 calories under my limit every day for a week. I'd better lose another pound soon, or....


:huh:

I believe mine is completely hereditary. I get it from both sides of my family. No one has ever gotten it their 30s except for me. At that time I did high impact aerobics for an hour a day. Often swam, walked and did physical labor regularly. I ate lots of fruits, veggies and whole grains. I was a little plump but not overweight. I was never able to get close to having any control without drugs.

Losing weight has never helped since I wasn't particularly overweight. Exercise does help. More drugs has made a lot of difference. So now I watch what I eat. I run about 20 miles a week. Walk about 10. Lift heavy 3 times a week. My fastings are often above 125. Most of my between meals run in the 80's. After meals range from 100-175. So I do all the right things according to the Drs. but if I let my guard down I can easily shoot up to 200. To me, this points not to my lifestyle being the problem but to something truly malfunctioning in my body. At 48, I am barely in the normal range of insulin production. I am insulin resistant. I have some minor neuropathy.

While losing weight and exercise can prevent a lot of complications being sedentary and obese isn't the only cause of T2. Stress can elevate your blood glucose so the stress of having other health issues can cause your BG to rise. There are some circumstances where your body can be damaged by chemical exposure or illness making it inefficient at managing its glucose/insulin balance but I still wonder if it takes a predisposition to T2. There are people who are sedentary and obese who don't have T2. Don't ever blame yourself, you just "won" the genetic lottery. And while it is great if you can improve your lifestyle and not need drugs never kick yourself if that is not where you are at. The goal is always to stop the rot and if it takes drugs to do that then that is so much better than developing complications.

I think it might have the house full of teenage girls.:laugh:

All through my forties I would come home and eat dinner than go to my room and watch TV. I found it was easier than trying to apologize for saying the wrong thing and causing all sorts of tears. That sedentary life style and the fact that I was knocking on 350 pounds may have been the cause?

That's my story I blaming it on my Daughters.

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm

The Newcastle University study (link above) contends that true type 2 is caused by excess fat in the liver and pancreas and can be reversed by losing enough visceral fat.

I was diagnosed Aug 2012 with an hba1c of 10+ and started losing weight with MFP. By November 2013, I was instructed to stop medication. I have been medication free since that time, and my recent hba1c was 5.0.

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm

The Newcastle University study (link above) contends that true type 2 is caused by excess fat in the liver and pancreas and can be reversed by losing enough visceral fat.

I was diagnosed Aug 2012 with an hba1c of 10+ and started losing weight with MFP. By November 2013, I was instructed to stop medication. I have been medication free since that time, and my recent hba1c was 5.0.

This is true. And Congrats.

But it's important to clarify that you have not reversed your diabetes. You have controlled it through proper eating and minimized or eliminated the potential complications. (which of course is great). But if you eat a piece of chocolate cake your BS will spike; if you reversed the diabetes; it would not.

You probably know this, but just wanted to clarify for new folks (like myself) that it is possible to control the BS and symptoms for type II's so meds may not be required, but not to reverse diabetes itself.

i would venture to disagree. As long as I don't put on the visceral fat again, I believe my diabetes symptoms have stopped. I eat normal carbs including chocolate cake and do not notice spikes in my intraday BG, but have stopped testing intraday as my glucose has been normal for 4 months since stopping medication. My post prandial glucose has actually been normal since May 2013 but I was taking a tiny dose of metformin between May 2013 and Nov 2013.

Go ahead and have a slice of cake: Someone without diabetes will get a tiny spike as their body adjusts the sudden rush of sugar to keep levels consistent. Someone with Diabetes will notice a rather large spike. Test your BS before you eat, then one hour after the chocolate cake. I think you will see a big spike.

To be more accurate (if you can afford the strips) it's best to do your n=1 experiments every 15 minutes for two hours (yes, eight times) instead of just one hour.

Different foods spike different people at different times. In fact, the same food can spike the same person differently at different times. The only way to get an ACCURATE picture is more-frequent testing for about 2 hours.

i would venture to disagree. As long as I don't put on the visceral fat again, I believe my diabetes symptoms have stopped. I eat normal carbs including chocolate cake and do not notice spikes in my intraday BG, but have stopped testing intraday as my glucose has been normal for 4 months since stopping medication. My post prandial glucose has actually been normal since May 2013 but I was taking a tiny dose of metformin between May 2013 and Nov 2013.

Then you would be the first documented case of diabetes being reversed.

Go ahead and have a slice of cake: Someone without diabetes will get a tiny spike as their body adjusts the sudden rush of sugar to keep levels consistent. Someone with Diabetes will notice a rather large spike. Test your BS before you eat, then one hour after the chocolate cake. I think you will see a big spike. There are no documented cases of diabetes being reversed. Controlled with diet yes. In fact the case studies your link points to show this. They say that their BS is under control as long as they maintain a low carb diet. This is Not reversing the disease.

Testing once a day does not show even if your BS is under control. The A1C is a 3 month average. You could be spiking above 140 a few times a day and not know it. Anything above 140 is doing damage.

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm
I'm afraid your information is out of date. Have a look at the Newcastle University study linked above. I'll quote from the final section with links to the research papers:


In 2008, we published the Twin Cycle Hypothesis to explain the cause of type 2 diabetes. This hypothesis predicted that diet could entirely reverse type 2 diabetes. Read our scientific review, Pathogenesis of type 2 diabetes on the US National Library of Medicine website.
A clinical study designed to test the hypothesis was funded by Diabetes UK. The results were very clear. Weight loss averaging 15kg (2 stone 5lb) achieved over 8 weeks caused two distinct sets of changes. Within 7 days, liver fat had fallen by 30%, liver insulin sensitivity had returned to normal and fasting blood glucose had become normal. By 8 weeks, pancreas fat content had returned to normal and insulin secretion by the pancreas had returned to normal. Read the full scientific paper, Reversal of type 2 diabetes and the related Newcastle University Press Release, Diet Reverses Type 2 Diabetes.
This new understanding of what causes type 2 diabetes and how it can be completely reversed has been used by individuals worldwide, a report has been publushed documenting practical management of type 2 diabetes in respect of reversal .
Professor Taylor was awarded the 2012 Banting Lectureship of Diabetes UK. Read his lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes .
Scientists and doctors with access to the journal Diabetes Care, can read a full review of the science underlying this matter: Type 2 diabetes: etiology and reversibility.

I think it's important to note though that in these cases we're reversing symptoms, not the disease itself.

If the people gain weight again, and subsequently regain visceral bodyfat, they will still be diabetic.

In many cases, even with 'reversal' of symptoms the disease is still present. I have absolutely normal, non-diabetic HbA1c levels, yet my pancreas produces almost NO insulin. I still control it with diet and exercise every day. It would be rather presumptuous to say it's anything but CONTROLLED as opposed to reversed or cured.

Also of note, researchers get more headlines and other media attention - and subsequently more funding - when they make grandiose claims about cures or disease-reversals instead of saying they can control something.

Diabetes is a hereditary desease. It may have been coincidental that it just happened to rear its ugly head and the time you found out about your sleep apnea.