How does protein impact weight loss on a LCHF diet
jackfox68
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I am trying to understand how protein impacts weight loss on a a LCHF WOE, and I would also like to know how to figure out how much protein I should be consuming.
Any good links people might be able to share, or provide some solid advice?
Thanks!
Any good links people might be able to share, or provide some solid advice?
Thanks!
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http://www.ruled.me has tons of good info on protein requirements.0
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Unless you're very active you need a lot less protein than was previously thought (and what you'll find on the Internet). I've been going with 1g/kg of Lean Body Mass (LBM). So find your LBM (plenty of info out there on how to estimate that) and make sure you convert it to kilograms. Somewhere along the way someone made a "mistake" and wrote it as 1g per pound and the Internet has never recovered.0
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I find I have to keep a close eye on my protein intake. I'm a woman (don't be fooled by my avatar). If I go over my protein grams, say more than 80 grams a day, my weight loss stalls. Gluconeogenesis at work.Somewhere along the way someone made a "mistake" and wrote it as 1g per pound and the Internet has never recovered.
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My limits are 1gm/Kg at the start and I slowly bumped it up in phases to 1.5g/Kg of body weight. I had no problem building muscle or burning fat with 1g/Kg of weight, i recently bumped the protein to 1.5g/Kg because I do intense weight training for 90 min now.0
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My limits are 1gm/Kg at the start and I slowly bumped it up in phases to 1.5g/Kg of body weight. I had no problem building muscle or burning fat with 1g/Kg of weight, i recently bumped the protein to 1.5g/Kg because I do intense weight training for 90 min now.0
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My limits are 1gm/Kg at the start and I slowly bumped it up in phases to 1.5g/Kg of body weight. I had no problem building muscle or burning fat with 1g/Kg of weight, i recently bumped the protein to 1.5g/Kg because I do intense weight training for 90 min now.
It's annoying but true, especially for those of us pushing 50. Younger folks are just more-naturally anabolic, even with less protein.0 -
My limits are 1gm/Kg at the start and I slowly bumped it up in phases to 1.5g/Kg of body weight. I had no problem building muscle or burning fat with 1g/Kg of weight, i recently bumped the protein to 1.5g/Kg because I do intense weight training for 90 min now.
What about for not overly active keto dieters? I walk about 45 mins 5 times a week but haven't been exercising heavily. I've found if my protein is higher than 70 g I don't lose a thing. (thats with 1400 cals a day)0 -
My limits are 1gm/Kg at the start and I slowly bumped it up in phases to 1.5g/Kg of body weight. I had no problem building muscle or burning fat with 1g/Kg of weight, i recently bumped the protein to 1.5g/Kg because I do intense weight training for 90 min now.
What about for not overly active keto dieters? I walk about 45 mins 5 times a week but haven't been exercising heavily. I've found if my protein is higher than 70 g I don't lose a thing. (thats with 1400 cals a day)
I would say that your level of activity is a bit lighter than mine, but I would still start at 1g/kg of LBM and see how that works out for a week.0 -
Thanks for the advice everyone. Time to digest all this info and start experimenting to see what works0
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Hi - I'm a keto newbie. What is WOE? Thanks!0
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way of eating0
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I should add that my primary observation (from my own measurements) is that keeping protein "moderate" has significantly impacted my level of ketosis. Where previously my fasting blood ketones were in the 0.4 - 0.9 range in the morning, for the past month I have never fallen below 1.2 and I have had days as high as 3.6. I never achieved this level of ketosis UNTIL I started watching my protein intake.
Unfortunately deeper levels of ketosis do not necessarily result in higher amounts of fat loss. My experience so far is that being at least 1.0 or higher is all that it really takes to get things moving. Although you will see (and read) that anything above 0.5 is considered "in ketosis", for me I did not see much progress until I consistently got my fasting level to above 1.0.0 -
Thanks - I figured it was going to something that should have been obvious!0
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Snow, I would have to totally agree with both observations. I was eating close to 200 grams of protein per day, sometimes less and sometimes more and my ketones were steadily dropping, into the light to almost nonexistent pink/pales colors. Now my protein has been around 100-125 per day and they are slowly starting to climb again. Hopefully the weight will start to drop again as well, as i have been in a holding pattern for about a week. One other thing i noticed was with higher protein level I seems to get the urge for something sweet again and I seemed to get hungrier more often. Maybe that part is in my head.I should add that my primary observation (from my own measurements) is that keeping protein "moderate" has significantly impacted my level of ketosis. Where previously my fasting blood ketones were in the 0.4 - 0.9 range in the morning, for the past month I have never fallen below 1.2 and I have had days as high as 3.6. I never achieved this level of ketosis UNTIL I started watching my protein intake.
Unfortunately deeper levels of ketosis do not necessarily result in higher amounts of fat loss. My experience so far is that being at least 1.0 or higher is all that it really takes to get things moving. Although you will see (and read) that anything above 0.5 is considered "in ketosis", for me I did not see much progress until I consistently got my fasting level to above 1.0.0 -
OK- are we saying 1gm per kg of LBM or 1gm per kg of body weight? If it's LBM that would only leave me with about 42 gm of protein per day. Clarification anyone?0
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OK- are we saying 1gm per kg of LBM or 1gm per kg of body weight? If it's LBM that would only leave me with about 42 gm of protein per day. Clarification anyone?0
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Snow, I would have to totally agree with both observations. I was eating close to 200 grams of protein per day, sometimes less and sometimes more and my ketones were steadily dropping, into the light to almost nonexistent pink/pales colors. Now my protein has been around 100-125 per day and they are slowly starting to climb again. Hopefully the weight will start to drop again as well, as i have been in a holding pattern for about a week. One other thing i noticed was with higher protein level I seems to get the urge for something sweet again and I seemed to get hungrier more often. Maybe that part is in my head.
Dairy is another source that must be experimented with and determined per user. I've read that some people have no problem at all with it, but now that I only have 20 lbs to go to reach my goal weight it seems that food items that previously were not problematic need more attention now. I used to pound hard and soft cheeses and found that I would become hungry again quite soon later (and they also seemed to be creating stalls in my weight loss). I still eat a 2-3 ounces of cheese each day and that seems to be fine.0 -
OK- are we saying 1gm per kg of LBM or 1gm per kg of body weight? If it's LBM that would only leave me with about 42 gm of protein per day. Clarification anyone?
I'm only 5"1" weigh around 135. My BF% is somewhere between 28-30%. I have my macros set to 65-30-5 currently.0 -
OK- are we saying 1gm per kg of LBM or 1gm per kg of body weight? If it's LBM that would only leave me with about 42 gm of protein per day. Clarification anyone?
So yes, you've calculated your protein requirement correctly. Note though that these clearly are estimates so I wouldn't fret about going 10g over/under.0 -
So, do I need to adjust my macros? My current macros allow for 100 gm of protein and 17 gm of carb.0
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So, do I need to adjust my macros? My current macros allow for 100 gm of protein and 17 gm of carb.
Keep 1gm/KG of total weight, there are too many variables if you go by LBM. I usually keep it total weight to compensate the slightly higher need for protein under a low carb diet.0 -
thanks for the input. I think I'll adjust down somewhat and increase the fat some more. Maybe that's why I haven't lost any weight.0
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thanks for the input. I think I'll adjust down somewhat and increase the fat some more. Maybe that's why I haven't lost any weight.0