some thoughts on "it's just math"
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Great post!0
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I think it is called "New" Math. Calories- excercise *(-hormones) / (age +stress ) = +/- 1 pound .
One thing we can count on is that, those kids in their 20 and 30 don't know what they don't know, They will be 50+ someday (God willing) and still be taking about us, saying those 80 year olds in my dance class are kicking my butt.
Love this! My husband is a math teacher. I'll have to show him this equation. :laugh:0 -
I think it is called "New" Math. Calories- excercise *(-hormones) / (age +stress ) = +/- 1 pound .
One thing we can count on is that, those kids in their 20 and 30 don't know what they don't know, They will be 50+ someday (God willing) and still be taking about us, saying those 80 year olds in my dance class are kicking my butt.
Brilliant!!0 -
I love this equation and this post! thanks for sharing
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I decided to bump up my own post from April 2012.
Thought someone, somewhere might get a kick out of the ravings of a menopausal mad woman. The comments from others, especially the "new math" comments are brilliant!
ps: I'm STILL trying to lose those 5 vanity pounds!
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Always love your posts, Sabine. And I am right there with you on those last vanity 5. That is, of course, after adjusting my goal so that goal weight at 51 is a much more realistic 10 pounds higher than it would have been at 41. Good news, at least, is that like so many of you guys, I am stronger and fitter than my 41 year old self...happier too (on my even keel days). :drinker:0
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Hormonal mud :laugh:
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I wonder what BackwoodsMom's husband did when he laid eyes on the equation. Was that the grinding of the pencil sharpener readying his tools for the challenge??
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He'll win the Fields Medal if he can crack the code and make sense of what is going on
here. Let's hope !0 -
Or the Nobel Prize.
Please, BackwoodsDad, keep at it until you find the answer! :flowerforyou:0 -
I know, there's always the skinny guy who never had to think about anything with his weight that's saying "it's not that hard, people". Or maybe not the skinny guy but one's normal-weight husband who drops 3 pounds in a week just by not having as much beer and losing the dessert, while his mate sweats, starves, and strains, to lose, what, a half a pound if that! The fact of the matter is, that women, whatever their weight, because of hormonal situations, respond DIFFERENTLY to diet and even training along the way, compounded by their genetics and of course lifestyle. Personally, I wouldn't take weight loss advice from that hypothetical skinny guy/young skinny gal for that matter - I'd pretty much only listen to people who either are very experienced with working with mature women as trainers, or someone who's been in the trenches and successfully come out of them, i.e. a post-menopausal women who started off overweight and unfit and then with smart work got into great shape! As many women find around menopause, just going "low-calorie" doesn't always get results. Nor going on that crash diet that worked in one's 20s or 30s where 5 pounds just fell off like that. Since our hormones have changed, then the hormonal aspect of diet and fitness has to come into it somewhere along the line. Depending on a woman's own biochemistry, she might have to go low-carb, and that might be enough, along with the good weight-training program.. Others might have to do both low-cal and low-carb. Still others have to do both AND 45-60 minutes of cardio(that part on most, if not all days of the week in some hard cases)on top of the weight-training program.
Depending on what one reads out there, the average weight gain for many women at menopause is 10 -15 pounds but some people are saying it's often 30.0 -
What I find interesting:
The advice of someone who posts a shirtless selfie of his abs is given more credence that that of someone like Dr. Joel Fuhrman, Dr. Colin Campbell or Dr. John McDougall.
I remember a discussion when I suggested that a blueberry was better than a processed fruit pie, and someone triumphantly pointed out to me that a blueberry was comprised of chemicals as was a processed fruit pie.
It was at that point that I realized that if I engaged in these discussions, I was doing it just to procrastinate!0 -
Agreed, and lately when someone says they want to cut down on the "chemicals" in their food, (which is, admittedly, an odd way to phrase it) folks come back with a picture of an apple, or cauliflower and a list of the chemicals in it. I've never understood intentional, mocking obtusity.What I find interesting:
The advice of someone who posts a shirtless selfie of his abs is given more credence that that of someone like Dr. Joel Fuhrman, Dr. Colin Campbell or Dr. John McDougall.
I remember a discussion when I suggested that a blueberry was better than a processed fruit pie, and someone triumphantly pointed out to me that a blueberry was comprised of chemicals as was a processed fruit pie.
It was at that point that I realized that if I engaged in these discussions, I was doing it just to procrastinate! 0 -
My theory (and this applies to politics and so many other areas of life): People believe what they need to believe.
If I believe that I can' t live without processed foods, I'll find a way to justify processed foods.
If I believe that Ph.ds in nutrition know nothing, then I can continue to eat processed foods so long as I "eat at a deficit."
Throw in our biological drive to find certain tastes more appealing, the food industry's mastery of engineering foods so we crave more, the abundance of cheap, low nutrient food and if you believe that you need to eat unprocessed foods with high nutrient content, you're a crazy.0 -
I do wonder if for some, the idea of nutrition, fueling your body, using/avoiding food to alleviate symptoms is a notion that comes with age. It did for me. When I was in my 20s I would have chosen the crappiest, but tastiest "food" possible to maintain my weight. Now I try to build the most nutritious (and tasty) diet possible. Wish I'd started much younger, but I was raised on lunches of twinkles, coke, and wonder bread bologna sandwiches. Breakfast and dinner were no better.My theory (and this applies to politics and so many other areas of life): People believe what they need to believe.
If I believe that I can' t live without processed foods, I'll find a way to justify processed foods.
If I believe that Ph.ds in nutrition know nothing, then I can continue to eat processed foods so long as I "eat at a deficit."
Throw in our biological drive to find certain tastes more appealing, the food industry's mastery of engineering foods so we crave more, the abundance of cheap, low nutrient food and if you believe that you need to eat unprocessed foods with high nutrient content, you're a crazy.
Simple math works for them, therefore "it works". The idea that others need to, and/or want to do things differently seems bizarre to many of them.0 -
Is getting old grand!
No, seriously!
Experience, perspective, and judgment.
Also, as the motto on my profile indicates, I'm a firm believer that learning comes from failure..and by this stage of my life, I've learned from Weight Watchers, Atkins, Stillman, Jenny Craig and so many others.
And, here comes my hostile self: Only one in 6 people keep their weight off (the New York Times did an article recently, which I think someone may have linked somewhere....). I'm going to bet that a fair percentage of the people here who blast others as having no self-discipline, not wanting enough, not taking personal responsibility will regain their weight. I certainly don't gloat in that or wish for it, but that is just the reality.
In the meantime, they are here to pound as many people as possible on their struggles. Or, to rip apart people who advocate eating unprocessed foods.0 -
I kinda always thought that it was "just math"..."calories in vs. calories out"...UNTIL I hit 55 and am now post menopausal. I eat well, and exercise daily, and have done so for many years. But my body wants to be much rounder and softer than it was even 5 years ago. Keeping weight off, and keeping 'things' from be coming saggy and flabby gets harder every day. My goal is to accept that my body is changing while I strive to stay fit...but the trick is to not become frustrated and then just say..."to hell with it...I'm old and I'll never be a bikini model, so I think I'll have a six pack of donuts for breakfast."
Math indeed. This just proves a woman's body is a force to be reckoned with...our bodies defy the logic of math!0
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