How many bikes do you own?
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I had a 20" Redline when I was a kid!
I rode that thing everywhere. The old man grew
tired of my brother and I breaking the frames on
Schwinns with all the jumping we did so he
brought us to the closest LBS and purchased
a Redline each for my brother and I.0 -
There is a whole lot going on here....
1" front suspension fork? , V brake , bar end shifters (indexed?) , CX tires, curved seat tube...no seatpost showing , s riser stem , and a giant frame
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I just noticed the seat tube. Wasn't there a trend toward getting the wheelbase shortened as much as possible in the late 80s?0 -
Way before the '80s... Just google 'flying gate bikes' for a design from pre Ww20
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just the one - my trusty road bike which is my commuter horse0
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I just noticed the seat tube. Wasn't there a trend toward getting the wheelbase shortened as much as possible in the late 80s?
Interesting. What is the advantage? My guess is better traction on climbs as the rider's weight is over the rear wheel more. More important for dirt/gravel than road though. It might handle cornering tighter and be a little more responsive?0 -
The short wheelbase stuff in the ‘80’s usually revolved around racing Criteriums, which were very popular. Crit bikes usually had a short wheelbase, high BB, steep head tube. My old ‘86 Team Miyata which was more of an all around racer, but had some pretty aggressive geometry compared to my current Wilier (which has current "racing geometry").0
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mainly BITD with steel frames, it was to shorten the seatstays, and make the frame more responsive / less whippy... When you compare Steel chainstays to todays Massive square section Carbon fibre Boxes, you can see why.
Also, lots of the frames like that were time trial bikes and if you could tuck the back wheel under it'd be a bit more aero (for with disk wheels especially) and allow a shorter wheelbase while still maintaining a reasonable length of top tube.
I used to have a "funny bike" time trial machine that was something similar to this in frame appearance...
(only in dark red metallic, and custom made by Harry Quinn cycles in Reynolds 531 and 753 - built up with a 700c Campag Ghibli disk wheel at the back and a 650c Shamal on the Front, Campag Record throughout, lovely it was...)
Strangely enough, the reason I mentioned "Flying Gates" ^^^up there, was that my Uncle used to have one - he was a bit older than my dad, and I seem to remember being told he spent his Demob Pay on buying it... One of the original Bill Baines ones, built just down the road from us in Bradford.
In case you're google-fu isn't up to it, this is what I mean by a Flying Gate
(and a more modern one - albeit this being the new manufacturer...)
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Those flying gate bikes are ridiculous, but dig the old TT bike. Back when I raced, I never actually saw one used, though I did see an occasional disc. My friends and I always dreamed how much faster we would be using one.0
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well, put it this way, I quite regularly managed a sub 4h 100mile TT on mine - and that was without the Ghibli Disk in the Back - just a plain 700c Shamal - the disk was just too much of a handful for me on most of the TT courses for 100 milers or the 12 and 24h races.0
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Wow, a 100 mile TT! The club and sanctioned stuff here was usually 10 miles haha.0
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Club 10's are the "gateway drug" - I used to be terrible at those, preferred the distance events - 25's were okay, but 50's and 100's were my thing. the 12 and 24hour ones were "specials" - there's an annual competition called the BBAR - British Best All Rounder - for time-trials, on a national level - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Best_All-Rounder - to get a certificate you need to AVERAGE 22mph / 35.5kph over 3 rides a 50, 100 and a 12H Time Trial.0
