When is my reset over?

KVT4
KVT4 Posts: 6 Member
Hi all! I am currently going into my 9th week of my reset & was just curious to know what are the signs that a reset is over? Mentally I have reached a point where I am easily eating my TDEE without feeling stuffed (as in the beginning)! The scales still seem to fluctuate on a regular basis. Fortunately it's only 1-1.5 kgs higher than my starting weight which I am relieved about. I am currently eating 2,168 calories (I'm female, 5'3, fluctuating between 60-61 kgs and 26 years old). I work out about 4 hours a week and then rest of my day is pretty much sedentary.

For any metabolic resetters/experts, are there any signs I should look out for to indicate that it's time to cut? I was thinking of starting off with a 15% cut.

Thanks a million!

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  • Jennbecca33
    Jennbecca33 Posts: 321 Member
    Hi KVT4! Great job on your reset! :) It sounds like it is going great for you! EM2WL recommends a minimum of 8-12 weeks eating at your full TDEE level...how long have you actually been eating at maintenance level? Sometimes it takes people awhile to increase and reach maintenance. If you haven't been eating at full TDEE for minimum of 8 weeks, I would stay where you are for awhile longer, especially if your weight hasn't completely stabilized yet. You definitely don't want to rush the reset process and it's so important to eat at TDEE long enough before you start cutting again. You could even increase your calories a bit more to push it and see if you can still eat MORE and maintain. You would then know you that you've surpassed your true TDEE when you gradually see a very slow gain. After the 8-12 weeks at full TDEE, you can introduce a small cut for fat loss.

    Again, great job on sticking with your reset! You've done a great job so far! Feel free to check out em2wl.com for more support and forums on that site as well.
  • KVT4
    KVT4 Posts: 6 Member
    Hi Jenn! Thanks so much for your advice & support- very much appreciate it :)! It did take me a couple of weeks to hit my true TDEE level of calories. I was thinking of going on with my reset till at least week 10 and then seeing how my weight is then (i.e. whether it's stabilised)! As much as I'm enjoying this phase of eating, I am excited to start seeing serious results from cutting :)!
  • Jennbecca33
    Jennbecca33 Posts: 321 Member
    That sounds like a good plan!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Taking what may be the last 2 weeks as the 250 test is great too.

    2 weeks eating 250 more daily than you think TDEE is.
    That should only cause a slow 1 lb weight gain in 2 weeks.

    If it's more or faster, then you weren't really eating at potential TDEE that entire time, because you just topped off more glucose stores with attached water in muscles. If you had been eating at TDEE, there should be none to top off. You'd see the slow 1 lb gain.
    If you gain none, then metabolism went up again, and prior level wasn't potential TDEE either.

    Either effect is usually bad news then, because it means the old level you were eating at, without losing weight, was still too stressful for your body to not show signs of that 250 cal deficit.

    Meaning:
    You have been eating at 2200 calories lets say.

    You eat 2450 calories and say gain 1 lb in 3 days. Obviously a mere 250 more daily can't cause 1 lb in 3 days unless water weight.
    So 2200 wasn't potential TDEE.

    Is 2450 therefore potential TDEE?
    How can you tell?

    But you can discern that 2200 was obviously a deficit to a potential TDEE, but it was too much and body didn't really allow the deficit. At that point, that's only 10% about if you think 2450 is potential TDEE.

    So either potential TDEE is even more than 2450, and therefore eating at 2200 was a much bigger deficit than just 10%.
    Or your body is really stressed out, and mere 10% was too much for it.

    Either way, not great response.

    Of course, if you do gain fast, or none, the next response is another 2 week 250 test going even higher.

    If you gain 1 lb slowly - then prior level was indeed TDEE with whatever level of exercise you were doing - keep doing that same level and you are set for deficit.
  • KVT4
    KVT4 Posts: 6 Member
    Wow Heybales...I have no words to say how grateful I am for your assistance- really appreciate you taking the time out to walk me through the final steps of reset! Please correct me if I'm wrong:

    I am to increase to 2,400 calories. If I gain rapidly within a few days, chances are 2,200 wasn't my TDEE. Let's say that after the first few days, my weight stabilises at 2,400 calories for the remaining 10-12 days. Can I use that as a sign that 2,400 is my TDEE and start cutting? And if so would you recommend starting off with a 10% or 15% cut?

    Thanks again for letting me pick your brains :)!
  • Jennbecca33
    Jennbecca33 Posts: 321 Member
    Heybales is always so enlightening! :) I think the 250 test sounds great. Go for it!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Wow Heybales...I have no words to say how grateful I am for your assistance- really appreciate you taking the time out to walk me through the final steps of reset! Please correct me if I'm wrong:

    I am to increase to 2,400 calories. If I gain rapidly within a few days, chances are 2,200 wasn't my TDEE. Let's say that after the first few days, my weight stabilises at 2,400 calories for the remaining 10-12 days. Can I use that as a sign that 2,400 is my TDEE and start cutting? And if so would you recommend starting off with a 10% or 15% cut?

    Thanks again for letting me pick your brains :)!

    So lets say you do that and get results as you say, 2400 and no weight change after 10-12 days.

    Question is - Is 2400 therefore potential TDEE because weight stabilizes?

    Wasn't that the same effect and question at 2200 though?
    Did stable weight then mean that was potential TDEE? No gain or loss while eating there.
    What proved it wasn't potential TDEE - you ate more and after fast water weight gain, stabilized while eating more.

    It was eating at 2400 that proved 2200 obviously wasn't potential TDEE.

    So how do you prove that 2400 is potential TDEE, and not just an increased but still suppressed TDEE?

    Yep, another 2 week test starting after initial fast water weight gain.

    Now, if you slowly started losing weight at 2400, even after an initial fast water weight gain again, that means body is unstressed enough to allow that deficit to show up.
    But then that means 2400 is again not your TDEE.

    Since I didn't include this comment yet, it is important that the workouts haven't increased in intensity in some way, or cardio for endurance. If you added on an extra 1 hr of running for half-marathon training, could be increasing blood volume and glucose stores and topping them off - so that's invalid use of fast water weight gains. Of course, that probably means avg TDEE did indeed increase too.
  • KVT4
    KVT4 Posts: 6 Member
    Sorry for the late reply Heybales...thanks a million for your advice. You really are a wealth of information! Will keep you all posted with my progress :)
  • fwhittaker
    fwhittaker Posts: 104 Member
    Bumping for future reference.
    Very enlightening!