Racing post-injury

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vmclach
vmclach Posts: 670 Member
How long do you wait to "race" again after getting the doctors okay? I've been unable to run over 40 min for the past 12 weeks due to tendonosis in my quad. Granted, I didn't see the doctor regularly like I should have until week 10, but My doctor recently told me I could go ahead and start running long again. I have been able to run 2 runs over 60 min in the past week without pain. Now, he thinks I'm "good to go". I am pretty bummed that I wasn't able to run my goal fall marathon (Chicago), and I would like to run a half before winter comes. He think I'd be fine to race a 1/2. Does this sound like a bad idea? I'm paranoid of getting injured again.
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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    So you suffered an injury three months ago and it isn't fully recovered? That sucks. Any idea what caused it? Was it an acute or chronic injury? Obviously, you don't want to do the very thing too soon that caused the injury in the first place.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
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    So... it's ok to give you advice now?
  • TheBrolympus
    TheBrolympus Posts: 586 Member
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    So what caused the injury in the first place, was it racing?
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
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    kennethr75 wrote: »
    So what caused the injury in the first place, was it racing?


    Or overtraining?
  • JustWant2Run
    JustWant2Run Posts: 286 Member
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    I'm thinking that slowing the *kitten* down, and not running 3 or 4 times a day should help. But what do I know, my PRs are nowhere near yours.

    And... the Doc told you that you are good to race, but you are questioning it? Why? It's not like you usually listen to the Doc...
  • Carrieendar
    Carrieendar Posts: 493 Member
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    What kind of doctor was this? that will say a lot. A sports medicine specialist that understands distance running and your local PCP are two different things, kwim?
  • CodeMonkey78
    CodeMonkey78 Posts: 320 Member
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    I'm thinking that slowing the *kitten* down, and not running 3 or 4 times a day should help. But what do I know, my PRs are nowhere near yours.

    And... the Doc told you that you are good to race, but you are questioning it? Why? It's not like you usually listen to the Doc...

    ^^ THIS.
  • CarsonRuns
    CarsonRuns Posts: 3,039 Member
    edited October 2014
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  • JTick
    JTick Posts: 2,131 Member
    edited October 2014
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    I think you'd be fine to race it. Heck, I'd go for a PR. You can do it. I believe in you. Make sure you run plenty between now and then. Don't listen to the haterz. :heart:
  • vmclach
    vmclach Posts: 670 Member
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    jofjltncb6 wrote: »
    So you suffered an injury three months ago and it isn't fully recovered? That sucks. Any idea what caused it? Was it an acute or chronic injury? Obviously, you don't want to do the very thing too soon that caused the injury in the first place.

    Chronic.. Likely overtraining. It flared up a week after my last full which had a 1400 ft elevation change was tough on my quads, and I don't think I recovered properly!
  • vmclach
    vmclach Posts: 670 Member
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    I'm thinking that slowing the *kitten* down, and not running 3 or 4 times a day should help. But what do I know, my PRs are nowhere near yours.

    And... the Doc told you that you are good to race, but you are questioning it? Why? It's not like you usually listen to the Doc...

    Taper getting to you?
  • vmclach
    vmclach Posts: 670 Member
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    603reader wrote: »
    kennethr75 wrote: »
    So what caused the injury in the first place, was it racing?


    Or overtraining?


    I think it was caused from my last marathon which a big elevation change putting a lot of extra pressure on my quads & not recovering properly.
  • vmclach
    vmclach Posts: 670 Member
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    What kind of doctor was this? that will say a lot. A sports medicine specialist that understands distance running and your local PCP are two different things, kwim?

    Sports medicine. He has been doing a lot of ART. He sees a lot of runners. I am just surprised that moving my leg around doing ART has magically healed me in 2 weeks.
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
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    vmclach wrote: »
    603reader wrote: »
    kennethr75 wrote: »
    So what caused the injury in the first place, was it racing?


    Or overtraining?


    I think it was caused from my last marathon which a big elevation change putting a lot of extra pressure on my quads & not recovering properly.

    You should properly look into how to recover properly and take breaks instead of running multiple times a day.
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
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    603reader wrote: »
    vmclach wrote: »
    603reader wrote: »
    kennethr75 wrote: »
    So what caused the injury in the first place, was it racing?


    Or overtraining?


    I think it was caused from my last marathon which a big elevation change putting a lot of extra pressure on my quads & not recovering properly.

    You should properly look into how to recover properly and take breaks instead of running multiple times a day.

    logic like that will not be tolerated around here.
  • Carrieendar
    Carrieendar Posts: 493 Member
    edited October 2014
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    was the doctor unable to pinpoint cause? that's usually integral to healing in an athlete. he gave you a diagnosis of -osis, so the body is not reacting to inflammation, which means the microtears are essentially being integrated into the tissue, that matrix of the tendon itself is changing.

    I am not a doctor (in training to go RN to PA), but, I have done some work alongside sports medicine doctors, and this type of injury is usually healed by rest and gradual return or else you risk needing surgery to remove the irregular tissue that you continue to create by re-injuring the area.

    So...long story short, I would make sure the doctor understands long distance, how racing differs from training/just running, and all that.
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
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    603reader wrote: »
    vmclach wrote: »
    603reader wrote: »
    kennethr75 wrote: »
    So what caused the injury in the first place, was it racing?


    Or overtraining?


    I think it was caused from my last marathon which a big elevation change putting a lot of extra pressure on my quads & not recovering properly.

    You should properly look into how to recover properly and take breaks instead of running multiple times a day.

    logic like that will not be tolerated around here.

    probably not

  • vmclach
    vmclach Posts: 670 Member
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    was the doctor unable to pinpoint cause? that's usually integral to healing in an athlete. he gave you a diagnosis of -osis, so the body is not reacting to inflammation, which means the microtears are essentially being integrated into the tissue, that matrix of the tendon itself is changing.

    I am not a doctor (in training to go RN to PA), but, I have done some work alongside sports medicine doctors, and this type of injury is usually healed by rest and gradual return or else you risk needing surgery to remove the irregular tissue that you continue to create by re-injuring the area.

    So...long story short, I would make sure the doctor understands long distance, how racing differs from training/just running, and all that.

    He sees a lot of runners. He is a competitive runner himself. He told me it occurred overtime because of all the marathons. He said that it's pretty common.. However, he at no point during this process told me to rest or take time off... In fact he actually told me that running 2x a day shorter distance would be a good idea.. And he also said that running faster is better because your turnover is faster or something. He seemed to think putting stress on it would help rebuild it. I'm not doctor not do I have any medicinal background, so I don't really know much about it except what he has told me
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
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    vmclach wrote: »
    was the doctor unable to pinpoint cause? that's usually integral to healing in an athlete. he gave you a diagnosis of -osis, so the body is not reacting to inflammation, which means the microtears are essentially being integrated into the tissue, that matrix of the tendon itself is changing.

    I am not a doctor (in training to go RN to PA), but, I have done some work alongside sports medicine doctors, and this type of injury is usually healed by rest and gradual return or else you risk needing surgery to remove the irregular tissue that you continue to create by re-injuring the area.

    So...long story short, I would make sure the doctor understands long distance, how racing differs from training/just running, and all that.

    He sees a lot of runners. He is a competitive runner himself. He told me it occurred overtime because of all the marathons. He said that it's pretty common.. However, he at no point during this process told me to rest or take time off... In fact he actually told me that running 2x a day shorter distance would be a good idea.. And he also said that running faster is better because your turnover is faster or something. He seemed to think putting stress on it would help rebuild it. I'm not doctor not do I have any medicinal background, so I don't really know much about it except what he has told me


    A second opinion is always possible.

    That's what I did with my knee. And my ankle. Ended up the best thing I did for myself since I can run without knee pain now
  • vmclach
    vmclach Posts: 670 Member
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    603reader wrote: »
    vmclach wrote: »
    was the doctor unable to pinpoint cause? that's usually integral to healing in an athlete. he gave you a diagnosis of -osis, so the body is not reacting to inflammation, which means the microtears are essentially being integrated into the tissue, that matrix of the tendon itself is changing.

    I am not a doctor (in training to go RN to PA), but, I have done some work alongside sports medicine doctors, and this type of injury is usually healed by rest and gradual return or else you risk needing surgery to remove the irregular tissue that you continue to create by re-injuring the area.

    So...long story short, I would make sure the doctor understands long distance, how racing differs from training/just running, and all that.

    He sees a lot of runners. He is a competitive runner himself. He told me it occurred overtime because of all the marathons. He said that it's pretty common.. However, he at no point during this process told me to rest or take time off... In fact he actually told me that running 2x a day shorter distance would be a good idea.. And he also said that running faster is better because your turnover is faster or something. He seemed to think putting stress on it would help rebuild it. I'm not doctor not do I have any medicinal background, so I don't really know much about it except what he has told me


    A second opinion is always possible.

    That's what I did with my knee. And my ankle. Ended up the best thing I did for myself since I can run without knee pain now

    I don't have pain anymore, but if it comes back in a few weeks, I suppose that would be a good idea.