Stronglifts 5x5 Summary

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  • VioletRojo
    VioletRojo Posts: 597 Member
    tameko2 wrote: »
    Since trying to read that PDF report is like having your face shoved into a stranger's hairy, sweaty, muscular armpit I've sent several people a little write up -- and I've now done it like 3-4 times so I think its time to immortalize it somewhere and save people from that dreadful PDF.

    The Plan
    There are only 2 workouts, which you alternate, and you workout 3x a week with at least 1 rest day between each. So for me I do Mon - Thurs - Sat (you could also do Mon - Wed - Fri or Tuesday-Thurs-Sat -- you get the idea).

    These sets are for your WORKWEIGHT (the weight you are lifting that day) and do not include warmup sets.

    Workout A
    Barbell Squat 5x5
    Bench press 5x5
    Barbell Row 5x5 (The app and the PDF call them that but they are actually pendlay rows).
    Video of Medhi doing the whole thing:
    Sesson A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP2g3Sj3qSw

    Workout B:
    Barbell Squat 5x5 (5 sets with 5 reps)
    Overhead press 5x5
    Deadlift 1x5 (1 set with 5 reps)
    Video of Medhi doing the whole thing:
    Session B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro3Mh9o7JPU

    The starting weight should be light -- either 50% of your max 5 rep weight or:

    Squat: Empty Bar (Olympic bar weighs 45 lbs, womens olympic bar weighs 35, there are bars out there that are NOT olympic standard and may weigh less so be aware of this).

    Bench Press: Empty Bar

    Barbell Row: 65 lbs (but if you have a power rack you can start with the bar by placing it on the bars set at a low level and pulling from the rack rather than the floor -- think about where the bar would be height wise if it had 45 lb plates on and that is the highest point you should set it at. This is my own recommendation, I don't believe its specified in any of Medhi's writing because his target audience is big sweaty man-dudes or dudes who want to BE big sweaty man dudes.)

    Overhead Press: Empty Bar

    Deadlift: He recommends you start at 95 lbs, again because you are pulling from the floor so you need plates on there in order to pull. But if you're a 120 lb lady that's like starting at .8 bodyweight which is kind of..very high. You can start with rack pulls until you work up to getting some 10lb or bigger plates on there, then you can put the bar on the ground with extra plates flat underneath it to elevate the bar. (same goes for the Pendlay Rows, in case that wasn't clear.

    Every time you do an exercise add 5 lbs. If its the deadlift, add 10. as you are getting to heavier weights on stuff like the overhead press and bench press where us ladies are likely to fail out earlier than a guy, you might want to invest in these http://www.ironwoodyfitness.com/equipment/fractional-plates/olympic-2-in-fractional-plates.html because 5 lbs is actually a LOT of weight to go up every time - don't feel bad if you can't do it but do plan to progress in SOME manner. (You can also buy large 2 inch drilled washers from a hardware supply which weigh roughly 1.1lb each for much much cheaper).

    So for example, Workout 1 will be Squat 45, Press 45, Deadlift 95 (or amount you think is correct). Workout 2 will be Squat 50, Bench 45, Row 65 (or amount you think is correct). Workout 3 will be Squat 55, Press 50, Deadlift 105.

    Warm up sets: These articles should more or less cover it:
    http://stronglifts.com/5-rules-to-find-your-perfect-warm-up-weight/
    http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-warm-up-empty-bar-work-weight/
    http://stronglifts.com/why-deadlifts-1x5-stronglifts-5x5-squats/


    How to do these lifts, equipment, etc

    His instructional pages are actually pretty useful:
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-squat-with-proper-technique-fix-common-problems/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-deadlift-with-proper-technique/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-bench-press-with-proper-technique-avoid-shoulder-injuries/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-overhead-press-with-correct-technique/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-master-barbell-row-technique/

    But it helps to look at several videos/instructional pages because it might take a few perspectives for it to "click".

    This is an excellent resource: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Lifts
    For additional videos go to youtube, search for "Rippetoe" and whatever lift you want to watch videos of. Watch those.

    These articles are also super helpful and very very detailed:
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/whats-the-proper-way-to-squat-qa.html
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/clean-style-deadlift-technique.html
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/bench-press-technique.html

    Equipment needed: Barbell. Plates. You can start without a squat rack but you'll need one pretty quickly and a power rack is MUCH better both for ease of use and safety if you are lifting alone. You'll also need a bench (that's why its called a bench press).

    Failure is success!
    At some point you will get to a weight (it will happen at different times on different exercises) where you can't complete all 5x5. yo'll do something like 5-5-4-4-3 (5 reps, 5 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps 3 reps) -- (so if you squat down on the 5th rep and can't get back up again you'd log that as 4). If this happens, next time you go do that exercise do NOT add 5 lbs, go back and do the exact same weight again. If it happens again, use the same weight the next time. If it happens a THIRD time, then the 4th time you deload by 10% and start your next day from there (so if you are squatting 100 lbs and you fail, you will take off 10 lbs and start again at 90, then go to 95, etc).

    If this happens to you 2 ish times, in a row, its time to change to a 3x5 program (I believe). Same deal, but 3 sets instead of 5. Write-up to follow on this if I ever get there or if someone else wants to take it on. (I say 2-ish because you might want to try moving up with the fractionals before you just switch to the 3x5 program, but the basic story is that at SOME weight, you will no longer be able to expect to lift it 25 times in a row, even with rest. At that time, its time to drop your sets.

    I think MFP gives me 2 hours to edit a post so if people want updates to this, holla, otherwise we can use this thread to add FAQ type things. I'm sure I've left something out. Oh wells.

    Thank you! Saving for later.
  • 1RareJewel
    1RareJewel Posts: 440 Member
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    Kimsoontobe Posts: 110 Member
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    MudDancer Posts: 151 Member
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  • jessiefrancine
    jessiefrancine Posts: 271 Member
    This summary is great. I actually read your summaryl, went and read the original full description on the StrongLifts page, then came back and read your summary again. I'm feeling pretty good about my grasp of the program now, though I do want to spend a little time watching the form videos and reading the form links you posted. Thanks!
  • lhaas24
    lhaas24 Posts: 92 Member
    bump :)
  • ens102
    ens102 Posts: 37 Member
    Thank you for the summary, with this and the app I have bullied my husband into actually starting 5x5 with me. The origional website could still do with getting more female friendly though :disappointed:
  • hippytee
    hippytee Posts: 249 Member
    Deadlifts I f
    Don't want to do as I have a bad back, been Advised not to do this exercise, any alternative please.
  • tkfunkyfrogg
    tkfunkyfrogg Posts: 58 Member
    edited October 2015
    I have never done this before and my phone won't use the app (grr, would be convenient!) so I got the spreadsheet. It shows the weight for the first day for both the squat and row as 45# so for the first day I'm lifting just the weight of the bar (if the bar is actually olympic weight, I'll have to double check that) and the deadlift is 25# on either side (95#)?

    Thanks in advance for the help. Want to be prepared before I go to the gym to actually start the program.
  • mirrim52
    mirrim52 Posts: 763 Member
    Yes, that is correct, but workout A is Squat, Bench, Row, so deadlifts won't be until workout B. For Bench and definitely Overhead Press, it is common for the bar alone to be too heavy for women. If it is, start with fixed barbells or dumb bells and work up to the 45 lb bar.
  • LeslieB042812
    LeslieB042812 Posts: 1,799 Member
    Just chiming in, to say thank you! I had book marked this a while back because I was starting with NROLFW and wanted to do 5x5 after, but only made it to stage 3 of NROLFW before switching. I much prefer the simplicity of 5x5!!! I see in prior comments that I'm not the only one who's done that. If you prefer learning something and sticking with improving it, then I recommend 5x5 over NROLFW. If you get bored easily and like to switch things up, then NROLFW is probably better for you. :smile:
  • tkfunkyfrogg
    tkfunkyfrogg Posts: 58 Member
    Thanks very much for the answer Mirrim. I've lifted before so 45# isn't an issue but I'll religiously follow the 5x5 never having done this particular set up before. Appreciate the help!
  • liftingwateringcan
    liftingwateringcan Posts: 109 Member
    Thank you!
  • sfriel68
    sfriel68 Posts: 61 Member
    tameko2 wrote: »
    Since trying to read that PDF report is like having your face shoved into a stranger's hairy, sweaty, muscular armpit I've sent several people a little write up -- and I've now done it like 3-4 times so I think its time to immortalize it somewhere and save people from that dreadful PDF.

    The Plan
    There are only 2 workouts, which you alternate, and you workout 3x a week with at least 1 rest day between each. So for me I do Mon - Thurs - Sat (you could also do Mon - Wed - Fri or Tuesday-Thurs-Sat -- you get the idea).

    These sets are for your WORKWEIGHT (the weight you are lifting that day) and do not include warmup sets.

    Workout A
    Barbell Squat 5x5
    Bench press 5x5
    Barbell Row 5x5 (The app and the PDF call them that but they are actually pendlay rows).
    Video of Medhi doing the whole thing:
    Sesson A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP2g3Sj3qSw

    Workout B:
    Barbell Squat 5x5 (5 sets with 5 reps)
    Overhead press 5x5
    Deadlift 1x5 (1 set with 5 reps)
    Video of Medhi doing the whole thing:
    Session B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro3Mh9o7JPU

    The starting weight should be light -- either 50% of your max 5 rep weight or:

    Squat: Empty Bar (Olympic bar weighs 45 lbs, womens olympic bar weighs 35, there are bars out there that are NOT olympic standard and may weigh less so be aware of this).

    Bench Press: Empty Bar

    Barbell Row: 65 lbs (but if you have a power rack you can start with the bar by placing it on the bars set at a low level and pulling from the rack rather than the floor -- think about where the bar would be height wise if it had 45 lb plates on and that is the highest point you should set it at. This is my own recommendation, I don't believe its specified in any of Medhi's writing because his target audience is big sweaty man-dudes or dudes who want to BE big sweaty man dudes.)

    Overhead Press: Empty Bar

    Deadlift: He recommends you start at 95 lbs, again because you are pulling from the floor so you need plates on there in order to pull. But if you're a 120 lb lady that's like starting at .8 bodyweight which is kind of..very high. You can start with rack pulls until you work up to getting some 10lb or bigger plates on there, then you can put the bar on the ground with extra plates flat underneath it to elevate the bar. (same goes for the Pendlay Rows, in case that wasn't clear.

    Every time you do an exercise add 5 lbs. If its the deadlift, add 10. as you are getting to heavier weights on stuff like the overhead press and bench press where us ladies are likely to fail out earlier than a guy, you might want to invest in these http://www.ironwoodyfitness.com/equipment/fractional-plates/olympic-2-in-fractional-plates.html because 5 lbs is actually a LOT of weight to go up every time - don't feel bad if you can't do it but do plan to progress in SOME manner. (You can also buy large 2 inch drilled washers from a hardware supply which weigh roughly 1.1lb each for much much cheaper).

    So for example, Workout 1 will be Squat 45, Press 45, Deadlift 95 (or amount you think is correct). Workout 2 will be Squat 50, Bench 45, Row 65 (or amount you think is correct). Workout 3 will be Squat 55, Press 50, Deadlift 105.

    Warm up sets: These articles should more or less cover it:
    http://stronglifts.com/5-rules-to-find-your-perfect-warm-up-weight/
    http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-warm-up-empty-bar-work-weight/
    http://stronglifts.com/why-deadlifts-1x5-stronglifts-5x5-squats/


    How to do these lifts, equipment, etc

    His instructional pages are actually pretty useful:
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-squat-with-proper-technique-fix-common-problems/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-deadlift-with-proper-technique/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-bench-press-with-proper-technique-avoid-shoulder-injuries/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-overhead-press-with-correct-technique/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-master-barbell-row-technique/

    But it helps to look at several videos/instructional pages because it might take a few perspectives for it to "click".

    This is an excellent resource: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Lifts
    For additional videos go to youtube, search for "Rippetoe" and whatever lift you want to watch videos of. Watch those.

    These articles are also super helpful and very very detailed:
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/whats-the-proper-way-to-squat-qa.html
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/clean-style-deadlift-technique.html
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/bench-press-technique.html

    Equipment needed: Barbell. Plates. You can start without a squat rack but you'll need one pretty quickly and a power rack is MUCH better both for ease of use and safety if you are lifting alone. You'll also need a bench (that's why its called a bench press).

    Failure is success!
    At some point you will get to a weight (it will happen at different times on different exercises) where you can't complete all 5x5. yo'll do something like 5-5-4-4-3 (5 reps, 5 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps 3 reps) -- (so if you squat down on the 5th rep and can't get back up again you'd log that as 4). If this happens, next time you go do that exercise do NOT add 5 lbs, go back and do the exact same weight again. If it happens again, use the same weight the next time. If it happens a THIRD time, then the 4th time you deload by 10% and start your next day from there (so if you are squatting 100 lbs and you fail, you will take off 10 lbs and start again at 90, then go to 95, etc).

    If this happens to you 2 ish times, in a row, its time to change to a 3x5 program (I believe). Same deal, but 3 sets instead of 5. Write-up to follow on this if I ever get there or if someone else wants to take it on. (I say 2-ish because you might want to try moving up with the fractionals before you just switch to the 3x5 program, but the basic story is that at SOME weight, you will no longer be able to expect to lift it 25 times in a row, even with rest. At that time, its time to drop your sets.

    I think MFP gives me 2 hours to edit a post so if people want updates to this, holla, otherwise we can use this thread to add FAQ type things. I'm sure I've left something out. Oh wells.
    tameko2 wrote: »
    Since trying to read that PDF report is like having your face shoved into a stranger's hairy, sweaty, muscular armpit I've sent several people a little write up -- and I've now done it like 3-4 times so I think its time to immortalize it somewhere and save people from that dreadful PDF.

    The Plan
    There are only 2 workouts, which you alternate, and you workout 3x a week with at least 1 rest day between each. So for me I do Mon - Thurs - Sat (you could also do Mon - Wed - Fri or Tuesday-Thurs-Sat -- you get the idea).

    These sets are for your WORKWEIGHT (the weight you are lifting that day) and do not include warmup sets.

    Workout A
    Barbell Squat 5x5
    Bench press 5x5
    Barbell Row 5x5 (The app and the PDF call them that but they are actually pendlay rows).
    Video of Medhi doing the whole thing:
    Sesson A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP2g3Sj3qSw

    Workout B:
    Barbell Squat 5x5 (5 sets with 5 reps)
    Overhead press 5x5
    Deadlift 1x5 (1 set with 5 reps)
    Video of Medhi doing the whole thing:
    Session B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro3Mh9o7JPU

    The starting weight should be light -- either 50% of your max 5 rep weight or:

    Squat: Empty Bar (Olympic bar weighs 45 lbs, womens olympic bar weighs 35, there are bars out there that are NOT olympic standard and may weigh less so be aware of this).

    Bench Press: Empty Bar

    Barbell Row: 65 lbs (but if you have a power rack you can start with the bar by placing it on the bars set at a low level and pulling from the rack rather than the floor -- think about where the bar would be height wise if it had 45 lb plates on and that is the highest point you should set it at. This is my own recommendation, I don't believe its specified in any of Medhi's writing because his target audience is big sweaty man-dudes or dudes who want to BE big sweaty man dudes.)

    Overhead Press: Empty Bar

    Deadlift: He recommends you start at 95 lbs, again because you are pulling from the floor so you need plates on there in order to pull. But if you're a 120 lb lady that's like starting at .8 bodyweight which is kind of..very high. You can start with rack pulls until you work up to getting some 10lb or bigger plates on there, then you can put the bar on the ground with extra plates flat underneath it to elevate the bar. (same goes for the Pendlay Rows, in case that wasn't clear.

    Every time you do an exercise add 5 lbs. If its the deadlift, add 10. as you are getting to heavier weights on stuff like the overhead press and bench press where us ladies are likely to fail out earlier than a guy, you might want to invest in these http://www.ironwoodyfitness.com/equipment/fractional-plates/olympic-2-in-fractional-plates.html because 5 lbs is actually a LOT of weight to go up every time - don't feel bad if you can't do it but do plan to progress in SOME manner. (You can also buy large 2 inch drilled washers from a hardware supply which weigh roughly 1.1lb each for much much cheaper).

    So for example, Workout 1 will be Squat 45, Press 45, Deadlift 95 (or amount you think is correct). Workout 2 will be Squat 50, Bench 45, Row 65 (or amount you think is correct). Workout 3 will be Squat 55, Press 50, Deadlift 105.

    Warm up sets: These articles should more or less cover it:
    http://stronglifts.com/5-rules-to-find-your-perfect-warm-up-weight/
    http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-warm-up-empty-bar-work-weight/
    http://stronglifts.com/why-deadlifts-1x5-stronglifts-5x5-squats/


    How to do these lifts, equipment, etc

    His instructional pages are actually pretty useful:
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-squat-with-proper-technique-fix-common-problems/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-deadlift-with-proper-technique/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-bench-press-with-proper-technique-avoid-shoulder-injuries/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-overhead-press-with-correct-technique/
    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-master-barbell-row-technique/

    But it helps to look at several videos/instructional pages because it might take a few perspectives for it to "click".

    This is an excellent resource: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Lifts
    For additional videos go to youtube, search for "Rippetoe" and whatever lift you want to watch videos of. Watch those.

    These articles are also super helpful and very very detailed:
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/whats-the-proper-way-to-squat-qa.html
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/clean-style-deadlift-technique.html
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/bench-press-technique.html

    Equipment needed: Barbell. Plates. You can start without a squat rack but you'll need one pretty quickly and a power rack is MUCH better both for ease of use and safety if you are lifting alone. You'll also need a bench (that's why its called a bench press).

    Failure is success!
    At some point you will get to a weight (it will happen at different times on different exercises) where you can't complete all 5x5. yo'll do something like 5-5-4-4-3 (5 reps, 5 reps, 4 reps, 4 reps 3 reps) -- (so if you squat down on the 5th rep and can't get back up again you'd log that as 4). If this happens, next time you go do that exercise do NOT add 5 lbs, go back and do the exact same weight again. If it happens again, use the same weight the next time. If it happens a THIRD time, then the 4th time you deload by 10% and start your next day from there (so if you are squatting 100 lbs and you fail, you will take off 10 lbs and start again at 90, then go to 95, etc).

    If this happens to you 2 ish times, in a row, its time to change to a 3x5 program (I believe). Same deal, but 3 sets instead of 5. Write-up to follow on this if I ever get there or if someone else wants to take it on. (I say 2-ish because you might want to try moving up with the fractionals before you just switch to the 3x5 program, but the basic story is that at SOME weight, you will no longer be able to expect to lift it 25 times in a row, even with rest. At that time, its time to drop your sets.

    I think MFP gives me 2 hours to edit a post so if people want updates to this, holla, otherwise we can use this thread to add FAQ type things. I'm sure I've left something out. Oh wells.

    I'm thinking of trying this as I'm looking to start weight training programme. does it only consist of 3 different exercises each time?
  • fanncy0626
    fanncy0626 Posts: 7,152 Member
    Yes! Just three exercises each time with increased weight at each additional session until you reach your max. There is an app that you can put on your phone or computer to help you with your workout schedule. It keeps track of your workout success and will tell you when to deload as well as time your rest between sets. Good luck! You will love the results that lifting hands on your body!
  • kimiuzzell
    kimiuzzell Posts: 611 Member
    Definitely get the app!! And don't be deceived by it "only" consisting of 3 exercises - the results will be very apparent, very soon! Enjoy :)
  • bsbprincess
    bsbprincess Posts: 161 Member
    Thank you for this!!! I was sent here by a lovely lifter, and now after reading your description and watching that video it all seems so much simpler (not easy, god no, LOL) than I was thinking it was. Bravo! Totally going for this as soon as I can get to a gym.
  • DaphneSW
    DaphneSW Posts: 117 Member
    bookmark :)
  • sadrac4683
    sadrac4683 Posts: 80 Member
    Started doing Strongs 5X5 and I noticed that on the app they have an upgrade option to gain strength faster. Just curious to see if anyone has purchased it and if it is worth it.
  • Sherriediva1
    Sherriediva1 Posts: 345 Member
    Started yesterday. ..my pecs are sore today and I need to work on form for the barbell rows because my back was sore/irritated for a couple hours afterwards. I'm 5ft 6in, anyone know how high off the floor the bar should be for proper form? I watched the videos, but the weights aren't the same size, nor could I lift that much on day one. Also,hand position? Shoulder width or wider? All advice is appreciated ☺
  • Connie48
    Connie48 Posts: 190 Member
    Thank you!
  • dafoots0911
    dafoots0911 Posts: 347 Member
    Just curious about the order of w/o A and w/o B.
    Week one I did w/o A, B, A. Am I supposed to do B, A, B on week two and then back to A, B, A on week three.
  • DawnEmbers
    DawnEmbers Posts: 2,451 Member
    Tad late to respond but yep. @dafoots0911 that is how it goes. A/B/A then B/A/B and so forth.
  • buckwld5150
    buckwld5150 Posts: 5 Member
    sadrac4683 wrote: »
    Started doing Strongs 5X5 and I noticed that on the app they have an upgrade option to gain strength faster. Just curious to see if anyone has purchased it and if it is worth it.

    I purchased the accessory pack and I love it. You can customize how many additional exercises you want to do on workout A or B, and I feel like it gives the workout a little more variety. If I'm struggling with a workout or don't have time, I might skip them because I don't want to be too sore to complete the main lifts, but I usually have a little bit left in me at the end! Oh and if I remember correctly, the warmup sets are part of the package as well. I love that it calculates the weights for your warm up sets, very helpful.
  • pearl12970
    pearl12970 Posts: 13 Member
    edited June 2016
    Thank you for this. So helpful !
  • healthhappinessfit
    healthhappinessfit Posts: 39 Member
    Thank you!
  • Graceious1
    Graceious1 Posts: 716 Member
    I go up in increments of 2.5lb abd the app is brilliant and constantly updating. Thanks for your notes
  • Dhathri
    Dhathri Posts: 323 Member
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    kenya50 Posts: 4 Member
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