Is this true? (Why wheat is toxic... and it's not the gluten)

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  • homesweeths
    homesweeths Posts: 794 Member
    Okay, so Snopes says maybe, maybe not.

    http://www.snopes.com/food/tainted/roundupwheat.asp
  • Naughty_ZOOT
    Naughty_ZOOT Posts: 4,133 Member
    edited February 2015
    I don't know whether it is true but I know that my blood glucose meter tells me that all cereal grains are absolutely NOT for my body. The reason behind it doesn't matter in the end, it harms me and that is enough to know and avoid them all 100%. At our home we do not use chemicals any longer, we have completely changed our food supply, are preparing to return to acreage and produce our own food and to build a home with every possible toxin reduced or removed and we are actively eliminating all other chemicals from cleaners to cosmetics. We are not tree huggers nor are we crazy. We just feel that we want to live healthier lives and many of our friends, coworkers and acquaintances are doing the same thing at their own paces so we are not in the minority from what we are seeing.

    Here is an interesting link that you might want to read the Abstract. That should convince anyone to avoid this product whether it is an issue with cereal grains or any other product.
    This is the link for the entire report. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15862083

    "Glyphosate poisoning.
    Bradberry SM1, Proudfoot AT, Vale JA.
    Author information
    Abstract
    Glyphosate is used extensively as a non-selective herbicide by both professional applicators and consumers and its use is likely to increase further as it is one of the first herbicides against which crops have been genetically modified to increase their tolerance. Commercial glyphosate-based formulations most commonly range from concentrates containing 41% or more glyphosate to 1% glyphosate formulations marketed for domestic use. They generally consist of an aqueous mixture of the isopropylamine (IPA) salt of glyphosate, a surfactant, and various minor components including anti-foaming and colour agents, biocides and inorganic ions to produce pH adjustment. The mechanisms of toxicity of glyphosate formulations are complicated. Not only is glyphosate used as five different salts but commercial formulations of it contain surfactants, which vary in nature and concentration. As a result, human poisoning with this herbicide is not with the active ingredient alone but with complex and variable mixtures. Therefore, It is difficult to separate the toxicity of glyphosate from that of the formulation as a whole or to determine the contribution of surfactants to overall toxicity. Experimental studies suggest that the toxicity of the surfactant, polyoxyethyleneamine (POEA), is greater than the toxicity of glyphosate alone and commercial formulations alone. There is insufficient evidence to conclude that glyphosate preparations containing POEA are more toxic than those containing alternative surfactants. Although surfactants probably contribute to the acute toxicity of glyphosate formulations, the weight of evidence is against surfactants potentiating the toxicity of glyphosate. Accidental ingestion of glyphosate formulations is generally associated with only mild, transient, gastrointestinal features. Most reported cases have followed the deliberate ingestion of the concentrated formulation of Roundup (The use of trade names is for product identification purposes only and does not imply endorsement.) (41% glyphosate as the IPA salt and 15% POEA). There is a reasonable correlation between the amount ingested and the likelihood of serious systemic sequelae or death. Advancing age is also associated with a less favourable prognosis. Ingestion of >85 mL of the concentrated formulation is likely to cause significant toxicity in adults. Gastrointestinal corrosive effects, with mouth, throat and epigastric pain and dysphagia are common. Renal and hepatic impairment are also frequent and usually reflect reduced organ perfusion. Respiratory distress, impaired consciousness, pulmonary oedema, infiltration on chest x-ray, shock, arrythmias, renal failure requiring haemodialysis, metabolic acidosis and hyperkalaemia may supervene in severe cases. Bradycardia and ventricular arrhythmias are often present pre-terminally. Dermal exposure to ready-to-use glyphosate formulations can cause irritation and photo-contact dermatitis has been reported occasionally; these effects are probably due to the preservative Proxel (benzisothiazolin-3-one). Severe skin burns are very rare. Inhalation is a minor route of exposure but spray mist may cause oral or nasal discomfort, an unpleasant taste in the mouth, tingling and throat irritation. Eye exposure may lead to mild conjunctivitis, and superficial corneal injury is possible if irrigation is delayed or inadequate. Management is symptomatic and supportive, and skin decontamination with soap and water after removal of contaminated clothing should be undertaken in cases of dermal exposure.
    PMID: 15862083 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]"

  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,055 Member
    Yeah, I've had it with arguing about why I don't eat wheat and why I don't think it's good for anyone. It hurts me and the rest of my society that continues to eat a wheat/sugar based diet is incredibly sick. So, all that anecdote equals enough truth for me. I did a ton of research at first, but now I'm comfortable in knowing what's right for me. Others can do what they want... and hopefully spare me the whining about all of their health problems constantly. Yup, won't happen but I can walk away. Anyone complaining and making excuses isn't even close to being ready to find a solution.

    If any kind of wheat was ever truly healthy for the human body, modern agriculture has certainly changed that with glyphosate et al.
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,055 Member
    It's not crazy or tree hugging (what's wrong with loving nature?) to decide to avoid poisonous crap that's almost EVERYWHERE in our current society.... and coincidence, almost EVERYONE is very sick.
  • OMADZombie
    OMADZombie Posts: 15 Member
    My father has blood pressure issues and when he eats wheat (he finally quit, yay!) his blood pressure skyrockets. Caffeine does it to him too.