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  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,461 Member
    Five negative Thoughts that impede your weight loss:

    (From the Hello Healthy Blog on MFP - Carley Hauck)

    I was recently teaching a workshop on the interaction of mindfulness, compassion and self-nurturing. This is a topic I love exploring, and what I have found to be true is what we feed our minds is directly linked to how we take care of ourselves. We can feed our minds with sweet and loving phrases or sour and critical thoughts. How we relate to our minds is directly linked to how we comfort ourselves—sometimes with food.

    This is an exercise I invite my students and clients to practice. Identify five non-self-nurturing thoughts and five self-nurturing or loving thoughts. Here are some examples:

    Non-Self-Nurturing:
    1.I have no one in my life who truly loves me.
    2.I will never lose the weight, so why try.
    3.I am not smart.
    4.My belly is too big and it will never change.
    5.Nothing in my life ever goes right.

    In a previous post, I spoke about how we have an average of 82,000 thoughts a day. That is a lot of thoughts, so how can those all be true? They can’t be. Are any of the thoughts above really true? NO. We are not our thoughts, and we can start talking back to the negative thoughts. Simply start by pulling out the negative weeds, and plant seeds of love and nurturance. It is spring after all.

    Self-Nurturing Thoughts:
    1.I am loved.
    2.I love and accept myself as I am right now.
    3.I am smart and have multiple intelligences.
    4.My belly holds my power and intuitive center and I am grateful for it.
    5.My life has ups and downs just like everyone, and I have enough right now.

    When you read through the non-self-nurturing thoughts, how do you feel? Sad, angry, hopeless? Does that make you want to reach out for some comfort, like a big bowl of chocolate ice cream? That is a pretty normal reaction. We all want comfort when we are blasted with critical words.

    How do you feel when you read through the self-nurturing thoughts? Empowered, happy, confident? YES!

    The more we feed ourselves with loving and nurturing thoughts, the more we will believe them. Our thoughts affect our feelings, and thus impact our behaviors, so be mindful of inserting loving thoughts and you will, in turn, have loving behaviors.

    For the next month, I am going to invite you to take a self-love challenge. Here are some tips below to get your started. Just pick one of these practices to try on once a day for the next four weeks. If you like what you are feeling, then keep going and make it a habit.

    Be Your Own Best Friend

    What does this look like? Love hanging out with yourself. I like to call these my loving-kindness days. I pick a day or even a night (if you can’t give yourself a whole day) and I just slow down. I don’t schedule anything and I just let myself see what I want to do. Sometimes I read a book, do home yoga practice, and maybe for dinner all I eat is yogurt and fruit. After a day like this, I always feel like my love bucket is full.

    See Your Magnificence and Beauty

    Embrace the amazing and unique person you are every day. Shine your light and show who you are. You can only be who you are; everyone else is already taken.

    Love All of Yourself

    This means saying phrases such as, “I love and accept myself as I am.” You are loving and accepting of your strengths and weaknesses, your pretty parts and not-so-attractive parts. Accept yourself as you are. Forgive yourself for actions that you took when you didn’t know any better. Compassion is the greatest motivator for real change.

    Make Decisions Guided By Self-Love

    Mantra: “I am taking really good care of myself.” If this is the thought that you feed throughout the day, then how do your actions support this? If I were taking really good care of myself, then I might still choose to eat French fries after a harder day at work, but I’d only eat a small portion and I’d also take a walk.

    Surround Yourself with Loving People

    When you start to show yourself more love, you may decide that you want and deserve more love from those around you, too.

    A few years ago, I had this experience where I needed to shift out some friends from my inner circle to make room for new ones. I had some friends who were only capable of being there for the “good times,” but as we know, life is always changing and has many ups and downs. I wanted friends who could be loving, supportive and dependable, and wanted that from me, too. You may need to weed out some people in your life or put them in the outer circle so you can surround yourself with the most loving people.
  • OldWomanRuns
    OldWomanRuns Posts: 106 Member
    Keeping fingers, toes and eyes crossed that your blood work turns out okay for you Snooozie! Do NOT need anything else thrown in the way of getting on with this thing we call life. Glad you had a great walk today by the lake - gnats and all!

    Super enjoyed learning about the Eagles -- love their music. Don't know much about it - but, love listening to it. I think one of the best parts of getting older is we have so many different genres of music to listen to. Choose from yesteryear or current - depending on the mood and the amount of road rage involved..... B)
  • Time2LoseWeightNOW
    Time2LoseWeightNOW Posts: 1,730 Member
    This is my favorite read that has been posted so far...Definitely printing it out to keep close at hand. I need to read it every day. Thanks, Snoozie... Keeping my fingers crossed everything is going to come out great on the new tests. XXXXX
  • milove1029
    milove1029 Posts: 308 Member
    Great going a lot of information for thought thank you!
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,461 Member
    edited May 2015
    I ran aross this blog in another menopausal group on MFP... I read the article itself twice.. (it follows the author's own blog below) and found it quite interesting...

    Since we're all in the same boat, I'm curious as to the Hatter's thoughts on the article?


    Menopausal Weight Gain War Zone
    Posted on 9/10/2013 by Momma_Grizz

    Disclaimer: I did not write the following - it is an excerpt from www.metaboliceffect.com. I am in no way an expert, only a woman who is fighting her way back to health. I finally found an article that I can understand on what causes menopausal weight gain - they have some good tips in there so I thought I would share. Plus, I need this close at hand. Yes, the site is selling a diet plan but what they have said below is also what my Personal Trainer has been telling me all along. After years of low cal dieting and with menopause, my cortisol is way too high causing an increase in belly fat. Now I can see it in writing and hopefully this will help teach this old dog (or grizz) some new tricks.......

    And by reading this, I think I finally figured out what "Stop getting in the way of your dreams and change your self image perception" meant - My body is changing, I need to accept it, most importantly listen to it and change my plan of attack.... yup, I think after licking my wounds all day yesterday I'm back in this game!

    Executive Summary: What I took away from this article and what I shall work into my lifestyle change:


    Realize I am far more carbohydrate reactive and stress sensitive
    Lower cortisol through relaxed walking every day

    Weight train 3 times a week
    Increase non-starchy vegetables intake
    Cut back on starchy foods, grains and dairy
    Cut back on sugary fruit

    Increase lean protein
    Build in restorative and relaxing activity into my life
    And now the article (I've bolded and colored the text that I think are important for me) - it's long but I didn't want to mess with it and take out some words that may be important:

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    What causes weight gain at menopause? Why are the low calorie diets that worked in your younger years no longer effective? What changes can you make to your diet, exercise, and lifestyle regime to combat menopausal weight gain? This article explains the impact female hormones have on weight gain and fat loss and why menopause is such a difficult time for many women.

    Estrogen & Progesterone

    Estrogen and progesterone, while lower down on the fat burning totem poll compared to insulin and cortisol or thyroid and adrenaline, nevertheless do impact a woman’s fat burning metabolism. Estrogen is an insulin sensitizing hormone and a hormone that controls the negative impact of cortisol. Progesterone opposes the action of estrogen on insulin, but works together with estrogen in controlling the negative impact of cortisol.

    Why is this important? Because insulin and cortisol are a bad hormonal combination for fat loss. These two hormones, when combined together in high amounts over long periods, push the female physiology towards storing fat when calories are high (as opposed to building muscle), and reduce the amount of fat burned when calories are low (burning muscle instead). This is a bad combination for any woman, but a menopausal woman is affected to a much greater extent.

    Since insulin and cortisol may be the primary culprits in female belly fat storage, the transition into menopause often results in fat gain especially around the middle. <----this explains my Buddha belly!

    The Fix?

    Realize you are far more carbohydrate reactive and stress sensitive after menopause. Which means the carbohydrates you used to be able to eat that did not affect your waistline may now be too many and do just that. The stressful exercise and lack of sleep you could tolerate in your younger years, while still remaining lean, will now start to show itself on your waist.

    To deal with these hormonal impacts, requires a far more insulin centric approach versus a caloric one. In other words, whereas a lower calorie diet may have been enough in your younger days, you now need a hormonal approach to body change.

    What to eat?

    Now you need to know that it is not just refined sugars that are the issue. You will need to start controlling all the foods that have potential insulin promoting action. This includes many foods that are regarded as “healthy”. Whole grain breads, sweet fruits, dairy foods, and starchy vegetables, which may have once been a central part of your lean diet, may now be working against you. Reducing these foods while simultaneously increasing low starch vegetables, low sweet fruits (berries, apples, and pears), and protein foods has to become your new solution to burning fat.

    How to exercise?

    Exercise too must be approached differently. Cortisol is produced during intense exercise and long duration exercise. This includes long duration jogging or running and high intensity interval training (HIIT), metabolic conditioning, or weight training. However, intense exercise that is short also raises growth promoting hormones like HGH and testosterone, and these hormones work with cortisol to burn fat and build, or at least maintain, muscle.

    Long duration exercise works differently. It has a different hormonal impact, and it may exacerbate the negative effects of cortisol because it raises cortisol without the balancing action of the growth hormones. And raising cortisol this way during menopause, a time where the female physiology is far more susceptible to the negative impact of cortisol, can frequently cause more issues than it solves for weight gain. For this reason, shorter intense exercise is probably more beneficial compared to long duration moderate intensity exercise.

    Cortisol can also be controlled and lowered nicely by relaxing activities. These include leisure walking (to be distinguished from power walking), restorative yoga (to be distinguished from intense yoga), Tai Chi, as well as massage, sauna, and other restorative non-exercise practices.

    Why is this important?

    All of this is important because the dominant message sent to menopausal women, from their nutritionists and doctors, as well as the mainstream press, runs completely counter to all we just covered. The message is to do more jogging and power walking, not less. They are instructed to eat more grains and dairy and less protein. And they are rarely told to lift weights or educated on the benefits of rest and recovery centered activities

    Together, a lower insulin promoting diet and a smarter stress inducing exercising regime can make a huge difference. Remember, the menopausal physiology is more carbohydrate reactive (estrogen is no longer there to help offset insulin) and more stress sensitive (estrogen and progesterone are not there to dampen cortisol’s negative effect).

    The changes to diet, exercise, and lifestyle can help combat menopause weight gain. Here are the changes we recommend:

    Leisure walk daily 1 hour per day (it lowers cortisol). Preferably do it in a nature setting (it lowers cortisol even more).

    Weight train intensely at least one time per week, preferably three. These sessions should be short. Shoot for less than 60 minutes or even better, less than 30. They work great along with walking too.

    Drastically increase your non-starchy vegetable intake while cutting back on starchy foods, grains, and dairy (this does not mean not to eat these foods, just eat less). This blog helps you understand the best carbohydrates to eat.

    Raise your protein intake with foods that are mostly protein (fish, chicken, etc) versus mostly starch or fat (beans and nuts have some protein but WAY more starch and fat). To help, consider a protein powder replacement shake 1 or two times per day.

    Oh, vegetables and protein are more slowly digested, so if you notice increased gas, that is because your stomach HCL and pancreatic enzyme secretion can also fall with age (and stress). A shot of vinegar, or a nice green salad before meals will almost always solve this. When they don’t, an OTC enzyme preparation is great.

    Build in restorative and relaxing activity into your life. A concept we call rest-based living. Sleep, nap, physical affection, laughter, massage (even self-massage like foam rolling), sauna, restorative yoga, and Tai Chi are all great.

    Are you thinking supplements? Sure they can work, but not like the above recommendations. If you plan on taking supplements or hormones just realize that is a lot like trying to clean up a spill on your kitchen floor with a Dixie cup instead of a mop. It won’t do near the job you want it to.



    Edited to add: here's the link to the actual blog by momma Grizz, in case anyone is interested in seeing other women's thoughts on it as well..

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Momma_Grizz/view/menopausal-weight-gain-war-zone-576021
  • milove1029
    milove1029 Posts: 308 Member
    More great going reading so that's why weight sits around my stomach.
    What do you guys think about a estrogen supplement. I heard that it causes cancer. And how about in taking Soy. My son said soy pills maybe but the food won't really help. I know in the past eating soy helped my hot flashes and even brought my period down.
  • milove1029
    milove1029 Posts: 308 Member
    Definitely do not want my period. Just saying.
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,461 Member
    I can't help with the estrogen supplement as I don't know a thing about em.... and I don't know anything about soy either so i'm actually pretty useless to ya on this one Milove LOL... sowwy!! I have heard lots of women actually have a sensitivity to soy.. but honestly dunno if that's just rumour or based on any kind of fact...

    I'm incorporating two of the suggestions above at this point - the lesisurely walk in a nature setting and the restorative activity.. guilt free bouts of reading a few chapters every day and a lot of laughter are welcome ones.. I'm also going to try to switch out some of the more starchy vegs for the list of non starchies... won't cut out my taties or corn but perhaps switching them out more often for others will make a diff.. I found the info on exercising differently at this stage interesting..
  • OldWomanRuns
    OldWomanRuns Posts: 106 Member
    What a great read for this Thursday morning -- Thank you!! I am absolutely going to rethink my "wogging" Some days I feel okay after 5 miles - usually when I go on a cool morning. And then times, like last night, I feel like I will pass out and have a horrible headache for the rest of the night. Rethink - Recharge - Redo! I will also have to agree wholeheartedly with the eating less starchy. My menopot is still there, of course, but not nearly how large and fluffy as it was for a long time. This menopause thing sure has changed life up! Embrace it! I now feel like I am sliding down the other side of that giant climb up the mountain. Young folks (I was included in that) always thought that being "over-the-hill" was a bad thing -- Um NO! We are on cruise control! Just figure out how to work this new fangled body.
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,461 Member
    OWR... I totally get what you're saying about the WOG ... and Im doing the same... if I feel great and wanna power walk, I will.. if I don't, I will COMPLETELY enjoy strolling at a leisurely pace enjoying the beauty and sounds of nature! LOVE the cruise control thought - perfect!! I emailed myself the list of non starchy veg so I could keep it in mind for meal prep; so today am going to bake up a squash; will still use the sweet potatos I bought as a topping for a shepherds pie cause I won't cut out all starchy ones, but it's good to have in the back of my mind that there are many of the NS veg I love so shouldn't be hard to pick them more often! btw.. howling at "fluffy"...such a way better term then muffin top....... you slay me!! :D
  • OldWomanRuns
    OldWomanRuns Posts: 106 Member
    Also, loved the self nurturing blog. It has taken me a while - life is very different after kids moved out and elderly in-laws that I took care of passed away. My husband and I made a very large decision and took a giant leap of faith to leave the church we were born and raised and worked in for close to 50 years. You say, leap of "faith" to leave a church? Yes, I do not mean any disrespect for folks that are convicted in their faith to attend any church of their choice - it just was a strong negative force in our lives. Still is strange. But, now, we are okay being with just "us". I am okay being just me - by myself, for myself. I am slowly starting to like me and know I am okay with me. Others may not agree with decisions and my not wanting to socialize anymore, however, I've not felt this good in - well, forever! I am starting to like me! Some days not so much - but on the whole, I love being quiet and hanging out on the property with myself, my husband, my dogs! Self Nurture!
  • seehe
    seehe Posts: 946 Member
    What a great read Snooozie- thanks! Lol the author used the term Buddah Belly- I use that term in reference to mine. :) It's very interesting and enlightening to read information about menopause effects on weight and life and hard to find reliable helpful info, so thanks for sharing!
  • Time2LoseWeightNOW
    Time2LoseWeightNOW Posts: 1,730 Member
    Thanks for the info, Snoozie. I have read in several places that soothing, calm exercise is better for most women our ages than heavy intense, but it is hard to get it through my brain...Like the clean your plate club, I am a member of the "no pain no gain club"..I am going to try some soothing things though now, Thanks.
  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,469 Member
    I'm going to work on the protein intake. I was hearing that we're not so good at absorbing nutrients as we get older, so have to be careful that we get enough protein - I don't know how true that is, but as we're having to eat less calories overall (as we get older), I suppose it makes sense to look at the proportions, and make sure we're getting good quality.
  • OldWomanRuns
    OldWomanRuns Posts: 106 Member
    I agree with you on the protein. I can really tell in my MenoPot Buddha Belly when I've taken in more carbs and grains and less protein. Even when I keep my calories at or even below goal levels, I can tell a difference in the jiggle in my wiggle AND perhaps this is my imagination - my hot flashes increase in intensity - and Who the Heck needs that???? :D
  • seehe
    seehe Posts: 946 Member
    edited May 2015
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,461 Member
    edited May 2015
    susan - loved the article; I have been working on the breathing part.. saw a thing about the 4/7/8 breath technique.. inhale thru nose; hold for 7, exhale thru mouth for 8.. I've been using that a fair bit and find it does help! Usually use it on my lake walks so double bonus! Have already instituted the remove excessive stimulation part; I turn my phone OFF (yup ringer and all!) and leave it in the living room; but i'll never be able to achieve the sleep one; my circadium rhythm has been screwed up for years with the rotating shifts - and add in menopause? that ones a lost cause for me until retirement I fear lol... but love that the ideas are so simple and can incorporate as many as possible every day! thanks for posting!

    valairia and OWR - I too am working on more protein, less grains (but not cutting them out completely) and just as an FYI my doc told me last year women often DON'T get enough protein after 50 and it's something we have to make sure we get enough of; however as she also has me on a cholesterol drug for the moment (even tho i'm at the normal range now she wants me a little lower cause of the diabetes) so I've been trying to find what non starchy forms of protein I can; so far have increased my intake of nuts - im not a big seed person but also have been drinking more milk... even skim has about 9gr of protein in it... and I will confess... I even bought a litre of chocolate milk as a treat LOL.... but it's an easy way to add some protein and calcium in to my day... as long as I don't resort to "cookies and milk" that is LOL!

    I've been researching some easy protein lunches and stuff too for work... one I like is making kebabs; chunks of cooked chicken, roasted veg like mushrooms and peppers and onions; easy to eat at work too so hope to try making a couple of them in the next few days... would be interested in hearing what everyone else is doing protein upping wise; need the tips!

    oh and OWR?? hell yes... I have found the carb heavy days kick start the hot flashes.... mind u so does coffee and wine lately lol.... but i'll suffer with those cause aint giving em up hahaha.
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,461 Member
    edited May 2015
    Breaking the Junk Food Addiction (Prevention.com)

    Overindulgence usually starts small: a potato chip, a dab of ranch dip. You fill out the plate with raw carrots and cherry tomatoes, but that chip tasted so good. Pretty soon you have another, and then another. Later, you may feel anxious about it, wondering, Where’s my willpower? Why couldn’t I just walk away?

    If it’s any consolation, it may not be entirely your fault. New research is illuminating how junk food works on our bodies, creating an addiction comparable to cocaine.

    We don’t overindulge in processed foods because we’re weak; we do it because our neurological system demands it.

    The Cycle Of Addiction

    Food addictions are nothing new. We sometimes joke about being a “chocoholic” or having a “Big Mac attack.” However, it’s only recently that science has confirmed what we already suspected: Certain foods can create a vicious cycle of dependence. (Wondering which foods trigger binge behaviors? We've rounded up the 10 Most Addictive Foods.)

    Part of the problem is the way we metabolize processed foods. These all-too-common grocery items are hardly even foods anymore; they’ve been so “dumbed down” with overprocessing. Our bodies absorb their ingredients much more rapidly than, say, a whole grain. As a result, our blood sugar spikes, only to then plummet rapidly. That quick high, not dissimilar to what happens when people abuse alcohol or drugs, generates a craving for more.

    To make matters worse, over time, people become desensitized to these spikes. One study using MRIs to measure brain activity confirmed that too much junk food inhibits the brain’s reward center. Just as alcoholics need more liquor to get drunk, “junkaholics” constantly need more junk food to achieve their “high.”

    Other research, published in the journal Nature Neuroscience, found rats that ate processed snacks ignored healthy foods and became binge eaters. Even more disturbing, their brain patterns resembled those of cocaine abusers.

    No wonder we want more chips.

    How To End The Cycle

    What’s the best way to stop the cycle of addiction? First, don’t get started. Granted, that’s a lot easier said than done. However, thinking strategically about food can put us in a better position to succeed.

    For example, shop mindfully. If it’s difficult to resist processed foods, don’t stock your pantry with them. Rather, seek out healthy snacks, such as fruit, vegetables, nuts, and dishes containing lean protein, healthy omega-3 fats, and extra fiber. Consider these healthy food items as part of an intervention to help you break the cycle of addiction.

    Research suggests that our willpower can be measured and quantified throughout the day. Studies show that willpower and self-control are strongest in the earlier part of the day and weakest toward the end of the day. Try to fill up on healthy foods early so that it’s easier to stave off late-night cravings.

    Natural Supplements That Help Stop Cravings

    Another way to protect ourselves is to supplement wisely. There are a number of natural formulas that help reduce cravings and support healthy blood sugar levels. Look for supplements with American ginseng, medicinal mushrooms, alginates, chromium, alpha lipoic acid, or other natural ingredients that are shown to help to balance glucose, reduce inflammation, and control cravings. Also, it’s critical to drink plenty of filtered water throughout the day, because dehydration can spike cravings for sugar and junk food dramatically.

    The best news is that good food choices—like bad ones—are self-sustaining. When we eat mindfully and healthfully, we get better nutrition, control blood sugar spikes, and reap countless other benefits. As a result, we feel great and start to crave the nutrient-dense foods that will keep us energized throughout the day. With time, healthy foods and the abundance of good feelings they can generate create their own special rewards: vibrancy, long-term health, and vitality on every level.


    10 Most Addictive Foods - These treats might have you chemically hooked!

    http://www.prevention.com/food/healthy-eating-tips/food-addiction-most-addictive-foods
  • OldWomanRuns
    OldWomanRuns Posts: 106 Member
    Fantastic read! Part that makes me giggle is the "just don't get started" -- ummmm, thinking that most of us are on MFP because we did exactly that and then some! Just have to break this cycle and we can DO IT!! Dig deep and walk away from the chip bag!
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,461 Member
    howling OWR... that was exactly MY first thought.... "there's a thought - just don't start??" If I had aced that I wouldn't be here!! LOLOL... but I did find it interesting that the junk food spikes and just like an addict, keeps taking more and more of it to get us that high ! :o
  • OldWomanRuns
    OldWomanRuns Posts: 106 Member
    Do you find that more and more of chips are needed? I did and have found that with decadent rich sugary desserts - I guess maybe it is because I eat it, get the rush then comes the crush of blood sugar fall and I reach for more sugar to get the rush back and keep going. It gets harder and harder to come back from the fall.
  • milove1029
    milove1029 Posts: 308 Member
    Hi ladies I am back and caught up with reading, nice pics of your yoga buddies Snoozie.

    It's always good to get away but I really ate a lot, but one consolation is that I was in a house that had four flights of stairs and I was the designated cook I offered and I was in between the third and fourth floor for two days. My gift to my niece for her graduation. The exercise was intense for my knees became swollen, but I assure you it did not offset my eating. I cooked a lot and I ate a lot. BTW I love to entertain, cook, eat and drink. So I was extremely happy.

    Goals: I am back to counting carbs in my diary goal met last week and continuing this week. and my new goal is to increase my walking. I hit 16000 yesterday at work and I am already almost at 9000 today.
  • milove1029
    milove1029 Posts: 308 Member
    I meant to post above on the other site I always seem to get confused. Anyway nice read as always.

    I am always trying to stay away from addicting foods. However, I ate four slice of pizza from dominoes for lunch today. It was suppose to be a reward to a scholar and I also rewarded myself, I am going to try not to eat anything or too much for dinner. Maybe a snack.
  • milove1029
    milove1029 Posts: 308 Member
  • seehe
    seehe Posts: 946 Member
    Thanks milkove for the fun quiz. I got 92% ( probably cause I've researched stuff about bread before because of diabetes).
    Two things I have learned about bread in the past that I found particularly interesting were (1) most breads that say whole wheat or 9 grain or whatever are "enriched" if you read the label, which means they are no better than white bread and (2) Sourdough bread is a good choice for blood sugar concerns as it causes the least spike in blood sugar :)
  • Time2LoseWeightNOW
    Time2LoseWeightNOW Posts: 1,730 Member
    83 % , I thought sourdough was better , and I don't remember the other one I got wrong. Thanks, Milove
  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,469 Member
    I got wrong the one about it raising blood pressure (I didn't think it was a particularly bad food for that), and the one about the grams of fibre (haven't tracked fibre, so honestly no idea!).
  • milove1029
    milove1029 Posts: 308 Member
    You guys did great!
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,461 Member
    I got 2 wrong; which kinda surprised me; but one would have been the high blood pressure if I hadn't read vailara's response before taking the test LOL.. I would not have guessed that altho since my horrid discovery of just how much salt is in most bread a few years ago should have clued me in.... and I picked the sourdough cause my nutritionist tld me it was the best choice; but according to the test a whole grain pumpernickel is the best... sadly the only pumpernickel I usually eat is scooped out with spinach dip piled in it LOLOL..
  • milove1029
    milove1029 Posts: 308 Member
    @ Snoozie lol
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