I sauteee my veggies in olive oil.

There's very few veggies that can't be made better by being sauteed in olive oil and garlic

If you are trying to get into ketosis (burning fat not glucose), yes, too much protein is a hindrance. Carbs turn to glucose,and protein turns to glucose, so your body will use those sources of glucose before turning to fat stores. (I know this is oversimplified, I am not a scientist.) Second, it is the fat that satiates you. Third, I think too much protein causes kidney troubles.

I use coconut oil to cook, in my coffee, and sometimes by the spoonful! I use HWC, coconut cream and coconut milk, too. I eat olives, macadamia nuts, pork rinds, and other high fat snacks we were so often warned away from before LCHF. I use olive oil on salads and sometimes just pour it on steak or chicken. I eat mayo as a dip for raw veggies. I melt butter and pour it over meat and steamed veggies. I absolutely love "boiling" mushrooms in a stick of butter.
I just try to make sure I have fat in every meal/snack.
Good luck!

Acceptance of what fat can do for you isn't easy, at first. It's what makes you not hungry!

Just so you know, not everyone logs their food or measures their carbs, fat, etc. I don't. I just know what foods I can eat and build my meals around them. I also do IF which has greatly reduced my appetite on non fasting days.

Don't fear the protein. You need truly monumental amounts compared to your fat and total calories for protein to be an issue. Amounts that just aren't practical without supplementation.

greenautumn17 wrote: »

If you are trying to get into ketosis (burning fat not glucose), yes, too much protein is a hindrance. Carbs turn to glucose,and protein turns to glucose, so your body will use those sources of glucose before turning to fat stores. (I know this is oversimplified, I am not a scientist.)

No, this is not how this works. The process is mostly demand-driven and not supply-driven. That is, excess protein doesn't mean more glucose produced. Higher needs for glucose, in the absence of dietary sources, will mean more glucose produced. You can short-circuit that by keeping protein too low (emphasis intentional, in that if you're reducing protein enough to limit this process, you're likely losing muscle mass to compensate).

Can excess protein reduce the level of ketosis? Yes. Will it kick you out of ketosis? Not likely. There is speculation as to the mechanism for why the reduction in level of ketosis. I tend to lean on the side that excessive protein is usually accompanied by increased calories as well. As ketones are created also on demand, there are fewer of them needed when energy is ample. The excess protein isn't turning to glucose and kicking you out. You just have fewer ketones because you have more energy overall.

For excess protein to cause an issue, you're looking at 250-300+ grams a day for multiple days/weeks in a row. No one is going to hit those amounts without truly massive calories (which would be a much more likely problem) or by using protein powders and supplements. You're not doing it from food.

Second, it is the fat that satiates you.

Sort of. Protein with fat is extremely satiating. Without the energy from fat, you're going to be hungry and feel like crap. Protein is not a good energy source. Trying to live on fat alone will be very unsatisfying. You need both. Fat is very important for low carb. It can't be stressed enough. But, protein in adequate amounts is equally important.

Third, I think too much protein causes kidney troubles.

No. High amounts of protein can cause issues for those with preexisting kidney disease. It's not been shown to cause it or related to higher risks for kidney disease.

Mayo, butter, HWC, full fat cheese and dressing, burgers. I incorporate all of those into my meals daily and I have no problem hitting 70%.

To piggy back off this post rather than make my own for a similar topic- I am having trouble myself getting enough fat (my goal is 93g a day) with keeping my protein macro in check. Today I logged 30g over my goal for protein. It's hard when all my snacky foods are protein based!

I find fattybattyy's post to be on target. Fat is my goal because it is so easy for me to over do protein. Staying off carbs has not been an issue the last 6 months.

I add extra BPC when my protein has gone too high (>80g), and when protein is too low (<30) I have a protein shake. My macros are set at 16g carb, 65g protein, & 108g fat. Not sure if this is correct way to go about it, but am trying.