PCOS/Metformin/Losing Weight?

RusalkaDevushka
RusalkaDevushka Posts: 10 Member
edited November 19 in Social Groups
Hey, all.

I did a rudimentary search to try and find an answer, but there was a lot of information and I was having trouble finding the answers I was looking for. I was just told about this group after making this post on the regular message boards.

I was recently diagnosed with PCOS. I'm learning that there is apparently a larger club of women with this syndrome than I previously believed. Before I was diagnosed, I'd lost 60 pounds in 2013 by logging my food, and exercising a ton (2 days of Zumba, 2 days of yoga, and 2 days of ellipitcal). I cut out soda, and cut out most bad foods, but was using a lot of processed meals to get through the issue of time (full time student working full time as well).

I've been put on Metformin, 500mg. I know that this is half the dosage of a Type II diabetic (I dated one for four years, so I'm very familiar with Metformin). But this is the problem. Since I know that it lowers insulin levels, and I know I'm trying to lose weight, I'm worried that I will not eat enough to counteract the Metformin, and I don't want my blood sugar to plummet overnight, since I take the pills in the morning and in the evening.

I don't see my doctor until July; she's asked for a follow up to check my insulin and weight loss. I don't want to just be at a weight loss stand still while I wait to see her. I know that there are other women dealing with this, and I'm curious what y'all are doing to offset the lowered blood sugar, if anything at all.

Thanks in advance for any help/stories/advice you can give.

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  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    edited May 2015
    I never had a problem with lowered blood sugar, either on the standard calorie counting diet or on my now low carb, high fat, moderate protein diet while taking Metformin... Maybe others can give better advice.

    I know I had to drastically lower my carbs and stagger any dairy to not have the gastro complications, but otherwise, my lethargy related to food dissipated so I think I'm the opposite end of the scale.
  • andisue50
    andisue50 Posts: 26 Member
    There is very little risk of hypoglycemia while taking metformin because of it's mechanism of action. That why it is so frequently/liberally prescribed- the risks of side effects are so low. So you really shouldn't need to worry about it- just keep doing what you are doing!
  • Nounette11
    Nounette11 Posts: 1 Member
    Hi there,

    I've been on Metformin 500mg for over a year now and, as andisue50 said above, my doctor told me it is unlikely to cause hypoglycemia when you take it.

    However, drinking alcohol while on metformin does in fact lower my blood sugar level pretty fast and makes me struggle with it for 12 to 24h after drinking ... (I guess that's why we're supposed to avoid mixing metformin and alcohol... :blush: )

    Hope this helps!
  • janismaureen
    janismaureen Posts: 11 Member
    I was on it for 5 years (20 years ago) with good results but I stopped it because i was having some low blood sugar episodes ( i thought it was the metformin and I had reached a normal weight so i though i didn't need it anymore. In reality I was probably just not eating enough at that time) Wrong decision. I just restarted it 5 days ago to HELP my low blood sugar and it is helping ALOT I made an uninformed decision that probably made things harder for me for 15 years. My daughter who is 30 has been on it for many years, whenever she tries to go off of it she feels worse, is hungrier and gains weight. She has PCOS, i do not, i just have bad insulin resistance. The last 5 days, i am having less low blood sugar, less hunger and I have had a much easier time eating within my calorie and carb limitations. I dont do low carb, but I do moderateamts of very high quality carbs.

    I have emailed doctors before and had them email me back or call me back or dropped off a letter to be placed on his or her desk. You have a valid question. I am an RN. Most Doctors will get back to you witin a few days.

    Also my daughter and I are both on the extended release version. I take it at night, she takes it in the am. It is much easier to take once a day. something to consider. good luck!
  • xesixb
    xesixb Posts: 165 Member
    I'm on metformin as well and lost 60lbs. What has been bothering me lately is hormonal acne. My left jawline is full of tiny pimples. Always had clear skin. Are you on spironolactone as well?
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    I've been put on Metformin, 500mg. I know that this is half the dosage of a Type II diabetic (I dated one for four years, so I'm very familiar with Metformin).

    Not necessarily. It was just half the dose of the one you dated. Metformin is dosed based on how you respond to it, so it's very individualized.
    But this is the problem. Since I know that it lowers insulin levels, and I know I'm trying to lose weight, I'm worried that I will not eat enough to counteract the Metformin, and I don't want my blood sugar to plummet overnight, since I take the pills in the morning and in the evening.

    As others have mentioned, Metformin's mechanism of action does not result in low blood sugar. Metformin simply increases the liver's insulin sensitivity, allowing the body to better gauge when it needs to release glucose into the blood and when to quit doing so.

    You can actually be on Metformin and not eat any carbohydrates at all, and in fact, many women find they have to reduce their carbohydrate intake in order to get Metformin to stop causing GI upset issues.
  • LadyThanata
    LadyThanata Posts: 91 Member
    I started Victoza last week. i dont get blood work done again for another 3 weeks- Doctor has me visiting bi weekly. First week down- no side effects for me. But I have lost 5 lbs. Cant drink, cant really eat sugar and cant eat more then a fistful. I work out 3-5 times a week. Im very active. This is working for me. I will update you on week two. In studies, people with A1C problems,obesity,pcos or type 2 diabetes lost on average 10% of their weight. I read reviews from 100's of people, all losing 20-40lbs in mere months. Majority of these people claim to not be active or really change there diet. All of them had improve a1c levels. This is suppose to help regulate my period improve symptoms of pcos and drastically lower my weight.
  • RusalkaDevushka
    RusalkaDevushka Posts: 10 Member
    Nounette11 wrote: »
    Hi there,

    I've been on Metformin 500mg for over a year now and, as andisue50 said above, my doctor told me it is unlikely to cause hypoglycemia when you take it.

    However, drinking alcohol while on metformin does in fact lower my blood sugar level pretty fast and makes me struggle with it for 12 to 24h after drinking ... (I guess that's why we're supposed to avoid mixing metformin and alcohol... :blush: )

    Hope this helps!

    Yes, I remember reading about that. I don't really drink that much anyway, but sometimes I do like to enjoy an alcoholic drink with dinner if we go out, so I will have to quit that!
  • RusalkaDevushka
    RusalkaDevushka Posts: 10 Member
    xesixb wrote: »
    I'm on metformin as well and lost 60lbs. What has been bothering me lately is hormonal acne. My left jawline is full of tiny pimples. Always had clear skin. Are you on spironolactone as well?

    No other meds besides the Metformin for the time being. I see my doctor next month; I think we'll be figuring out the next steps once we see how things have been.
  • RusalkaDevushka
    RusalkaDevushka Posts: 10 Member
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    I've been put on Metformin, 500mg. I know that this is half the dosage of a Type II diabetic (I dated one for four years, so I'm very familiar with Metformin).

    Not necessarily. It was just half the dose of the one you dated. Metformin is dosed based on how you respond to it, so it's very individualized.
    But this is the problem. Since I know that it lowers insulin levels, and I know I'm trying to lose weight, I'm worried that I will not eat enough to counteract the Metformin, and I don't want my blood sugar to plummet overnight, since I take the pills in the morning and in the evening.

    As others have mentioned, Metformin's mechanism of action does not result in low blood sugar. Metformin simply increases the liver's insulin sensitivity, allowing the body to better gauge when it needs to release glucose into the blood and when to quit doing so.

    You can actually be on Metformin and not eat any carbohydrates at all, and in fact, many women find they have to reduce their carbohydrate intake in order to get Metformin to stop causing GI upset issues.

    I apologize for generalizing.

    I'm actually considering doing a Keto diet, but I'm just quite nervous about cutting out carbs almost completely from my diet, since almost everything I eat has carbs.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    I've been put on Metformin, 500mg. I know that this is half the dosage of a Type II diabetic (I dated one for four years, so I'm very familiar with Metformin).

    Not necessarily. It was just half the dose of the one you dated. Metformin is dosed based on how you respond to it, so it's very individualized.
    But this is the problem. Since I know that it lowers insulin levels, and I know I'm trying to lose weight, I'm worried that I will not eat enough to counteract the Metformin, and I don't want my blood sugar to plummet overnight, since I take the pills in the morning and in the evening.

    As others have mentioned, Metformin's mechanism of action does not result in low blood sugar. Metformin simply increases the liver's insulin sensitivity, allowing the body to better gauge when it needs to release glucose into the blood and when to quit doing so.

    You can actually be on Metformin and not eat any carbohydrates at all, and in fact, many women find they have to reduce their carbohydrate intake in order to get Metformin to stop causing GI upset issues.

    I apologize for generalizing.

    I'm actually considering doing a Keto diet, but I'm just quite nervous about cutting out carbs almost completely from my diet, since almost everything I eat has carbs.

    As a full on carb junkie who has gone Keto, once you're there and committed, it is easier than you would imagine! I'm eating foods I've never eaten before. Compulsion and cravings are gone or managed. Food doesn't control me anymore. I have more energy, more mental clarity, I can get out of bed in the morning without a crane...or backhoe... I can eat foods I'd thought were horrible for me, and I feel better than I ever have as an adult before. EVER. All my blood work is improving.... And I can hear my body's hunger signals now. Not the carb voice that ruled my stomach before. It is so utterly freeing, I don't feel restricted (because there is a compromise for any craving/desire/favorite food), and this is the easiest and best eating plan I've ever been on. Even on day where I want to kill things and eat everything, it isn't off plan stuff, because that part clicked in my brain. When I don't care, it just means I want a second serving of something I normally have one of, I want to eat the whole packet of bacon and not share, or I'm dying for a piece of really dark chocolate (but one is radically enough now!).

    I'm not saying there aren't growing pains and that you won't find things that make you miss your old ways, but gosh darned, it's so different a universe for me now. I just keep telling people to try it, because the worst it will do is not work. (hugs)
  • RusalkaDevushka
    RusalkaDevushka Posts: 10 Member
    KnitOrMiss wrote: »
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    I've been put on Metformin, 500mg. I know that this is half the dosage of a Type II diabetic (I dated one for four years, so I'm very familiar with Metformin).

    Not necessarily. It was just half the dose of the one you dated. Metformin is dosed based on how you respond to it, so it's very individualized.
    But this is the problem. Since I know that it lowers insulin levels, and I know I'm trying to lose weight, I'm worried that I will not eat enough to counteract the Metformin, and I don't want my blood sugar to plummet overnight, since I take the pills in the morning and in the evening.

    As others have mentioned, Metformin's mechanism of action does not result in low blood sugar. Metformin simply increases the liver's insulin sensitivity, allowing the body to better gauge when it needs to release glucose into the blood and when to quit doing so.

    You can actually be on Metformin and not eat any carbohydrates at all, and in fact, many women find they have to reduce their carbohydrate intake in order to get Metformin to stop causing GI upset issues.

    I apologize for generalizing.

    I'm actually considering doing a Keto diet, but I'm just quite nervous about cutting out carbs almost completely from my diet, since almost everything I eat has carbs.

    As a full on carb junkie who has gone Keto, once you're there and committed, it is easier than you would imagine! I'm eating foods I've never eaten before. Compulsion and cravings are gone or managed. Food doesn't control me anymore. I have more energy, more mental clarity, I can get out of bed in the morning without a crane...or backhoe... I can eat foods I'd thought were horrible for me, and I feel better than I ever have as an adult before. EVER. All my blood work is improving.... And I can hear my body's hunger signals now. Not the carb voice that ruled my stomach before. It is so utterly freeing, I don't feel restricted (because there is a compromise for any craving/desire/favorite food), and this is the easiest and best eating plan I've ever been on. Even on day where I want to kill things and eat everything, it isn't off plan stuff, because that part clicked in my brain. When I don't care, it just means I want a second serving of something I normally have one of, I want to eat the whole packet of bacon and not share, or I'm dying for a piece of really dark chocolate (but one is radically enough now!).

    I'm not saying there aren't growing pains and that you won't find things that make you miss your old ways, but gosh darned, it's so different a universe for me now. I just keep telling people to try it, because the worst it will do is not work. (hugs)

    I'm actually on my first day of Keto.

    The only thing I'm nervous about is the risk of kidney stones, which can apparently happen if you eat too much protein and oxalate - which seems to be prevalent in Keto - but I'm trying to just stay hydrated and not worry about that. I've seen people who were on Keto and got kidney stones from the change in diet, so I'm terrified I'm going to wake up in a few weeks with terrible pain.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    edited June 2015
    The focus of Keto is eating fats. If you focus on fats, you don't run much risk over overdoing the protein unless you have a preexisting condition. For me, at 240 pounds, roughly 40-45% body fat, my protein range is like 75-130 grams per day. I'd have to get upwards of 250-300+ grams a day without any carbs or fat to go along with it to run in any risk at all. Your body has a great way of balancing itself out. Remember, too, that if you don't get enough protein, your body will not maintain your existing muscles.

    The kidney stones and dehydration might be a related to each other thing. Usually, most entering keto are recommended to have at least 100 oz of water/fluids a day, 4500 mg minimum sodium, and supplement with potassium and magnesium. The way of eating naturally dumps at lot of water, and not getting enough water will compound that.

    If you haven't already joined this group - try it. In the stickied launch pad post at the top, there is a ton of great info on how to do this well...

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

    Here's a great video too.... http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
  • prplepeep
    prplepeep Posts: 18 Member
    I just started Metformin for PCOS myself. I'm on week 2 and full of curiosity and questions- this thread was great! :-)
  • RusalkaDevushka
    RusalkaDevushka Posts: 10 Member
    KnitOrMiss wrote: »
    The focus of Keto is eating fats. If you focus on fats, you don't run much risk over overdoing the protein unless you have a preexisting condition. For me, at 240 pounds, roughly 40-45% body fat, my protein range is like 75-130 grams per day. I'd have to get upwards of 250-300+ grams a day without any carbs or fat to go along with it to run in any risk at all. Your body has a great way of balancing itself out. Remember, too, that if you don't get enough protein, your body will not maintain your existing muscles.

    The kidney stones and dehydration might be a related to each other thing. Usually, most entering keto are recommended to have at least 100 oz of water/fluids a day, 4500 mg minimum sodium, and supplement with potassium and magnesium. The way of eating naturally dumps at lot of water, and not getting enough water will compound that.

    If you haven't already joined this group - try it. In the stickied launch pad post at the top, there is a ton of great info on how to do this well...

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

    Here's a great video too.... http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

    Thank you! I've also seen a website called ibreatheimhungry.com which is wonderful for keto recipes and ideas! If you have not checked it out, do so!
  • RusalkaDevushka
    RusalkaDevushka Posts: 10 Member
    prplepeep wrote: »
    I just started Metformin for PCOS myself. I'm on week 2 and full of curiosity and questions- this thread was great! :-)

    Well, hey, I'm glad I could help in some way! haha
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    KnitOrMiss wrote: »
    The focus of Keto is eating fats. If you focus on fats, you don't run much risk over overdoing the protein unless you have a preexisting condition. For me, at 240 pounds, roughly 40-45% body fat, my protein range is like 75-130 grams per day. I'd have to get upwards of 250-300+ grams a day without any carbs or fat to go along with it to run in any risk at all. Your body has a great way of balancing itself out. Remember, too, that if you don't get enough protein, your body will not maintain your existing muscles.

    The kidney stones and dehydration might be a related to each other thing. Usually, most entering keto are recommended to have at least 100 oz of water/fluids a day, 4500 mg minimum sodium, and supplement with potassium and magnesium. The way of eating naturally dumps at lot of water, and not getting enough water will compound that.

    If you haven't already joined this group - try it. In the stickied launch pad post at the top, there is a ton of great info on how to do this well...

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

    Here's a great video too.... http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

    Thank you! I've also seen a website called ibreatheimhungry.com which is wonderful for keto recipes and ideas! If you have not checked it out, do so!

    If you check out the launch pad stickied post on the LCD group, there are a bunch of other links, too, to other sites as highly recommended as IBreatheImHungry...

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10103966/start-here-the-lcd-launch-pad
  • LisaJayne71
    LisaJayne71 Posts: 197 Member
    I have PCOS so am going to bump this to read completely later on
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    The search function on groups is atrocious, so I personally recommend copying and pasting any threads you want to keep to yourself in email... It is the only way I can personally keep up!!
  • 2Blackbirds
    2Blackbirds Posts: 4 Member
    I just started Metformin last night, and I'm glad there's a community here for support!

    My background: I was diagnosed with PCOS in 2009 at the age of 31, but I've probably had it since adolescence. My mother died of uterine cancer in 2011 (and had estrogen-positive breast cancer before that), most likely caused by the Hormonal Replacement Therapy she was on for 3 years after menopause, so I am prohibited from taking any kind of hormonal medication (like birth control) to control my PCOS.

    About ten years ago, I got up to 195 pounds and managed to lose 50 lbs through a combination of eating within a strict calorie limit of 1350, exercising A LOT, and eating low-carb (and thanks to going to a dietician to create a food plan and help me stick to it!). Unfortunately, depression stuck after my mother died, and a combination of eating for comfort, the depression meds, and well, the depression itself has caused me to gain the 50 pounds back within the past two years.

    That, combined with recently realizing PCOS is making my hair a lot thinner, motivated me to go to an endocrinologist last week, and now I'm on Metformin ER (500 mg/day for the first week, 1000 mg/day after that). My stomach feels a little upset this morning, but it's not bad and if anything, it's just making me not want to eat a snack before lunch. I know Metformin can cause stomach upset if you eat a lot of refined carbs, so I'm focusing on eating a lot of protein and vegetables and avoiding carb-heavy meals and sweets.

    Hopefully, the combination of Metformin and gently reducing carbs will help me get back to a healthy weight without needing to strictly track and count my calories/carbs. That kind of tracking did make me lose weight, but it got really obsessive for me, to the point where I would rather remain overweight than get back into that mindset again. :(

    I'd love to hear your experiences on Metformin and what it's done for your weight and other PCOS symptoms like period regularity, unwanted body hair, thinning head hair, acne, etc.!
  • ALNoog
    ALNoog Posts: 413 Member
    I haven't had an Issue with low blood sugar since taking it. I was prescribed it in April for type 2 diabetes. But I have noticed my blood sugar is going crazy lately... It will be 160 and crash down to 70 within a half hour your frame or the opposite.. Get down to 70 and then jump way up into the high 100's
  • toadqueen
    toadqueen Posts: 592 Member
    @ALNoog - have you altered your way of eating since you started the Metformin? My blood sugars went crazy when I began eating low-carb. My doctor made me stop checking and just checked my A1C every 6 months and I have been fine.

    I continued to take Metformin for months after I began to lose weight and stopped taking insulin at the suggestion of my endocrinologist. I am not sure what impact it had on my symptoms. I think it was the weight loss and increase in exercise that lessened the facial hair and regulated my periods. An ultrasound 3 years later revealed that I still had cysts on my ovaries but my symptoms were still abated.
  • ravenstar25
    ravenstar25 Posts: 126 Member
    I only cut down on sugars with metformin for GI issues. I had tried low carb but actually it can be super unhealthy and make you REALLY sick, as it did me. It's not a natural or healthy way to eat and there isn't medical support behind it and I wish people would stop pushing it as a cure because it isn't. Foods with carbohydrates also have a lot of vitamins you need. Taking them as a supplement just isn't the same.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    I only cut down on sugars with metformin for GI issues.

    I had to scale carbs way back, and it eventually got to the point where even fiber would trigger GI issues. It definitely takes some experimentation.
    I had tried low carb but actually it can be super unhealthy and make you REALLY sick, as it did me.

    There is a known adaptation phase, during which if you don't know how to deal with it, you can get really sick. It largely boils down to electrolyte imbalances and sodium deficiency.

    Likewise, many people conflate the usual "low fat!" mantra with low carb, resulting in a low fat, low carb, high protein plan, which is dangerous and isn't really sustainable. Healthy, sustainable low carb is not also low fat, but at least moderate, if not high, fat.

    It's also easy to undereat unintentionally (and even worse if you're already used to chronically undereating), which can lead to lack-of-food related issues. Low carb generally doesn't encourage very low calorie, because the point is that you don't need to starve yourself, but rather, can eat a sane amount of food and get comparable results.

    In short, don't dive in (to any major lifestyle change, really) head first without doing some homework, so you know what to expect, how to ease any transition discomforts, and so you know the difference between "normal" and "something is genuinely wrong."
    It's not a natural or healthy way to eat

    There's nothing unnatural at all about eating meat and vegetables. It's arguably more natural than what most of society eats today.

    It's also not unhealthy by itself. There are unhealthy ways to do it, yes, but there are unhealthy ways to implement the ways of eating that many consider inherently healthy (see also: junk food veg*ns). Subsisting off of hydrogenated vegetable oil margarine and "sugar free!" foods is largely the low carb equivalent of a junk food veg*n who lives off peanut butter on white bread sandwiches and Oreo cookies.

    Also, the Inuit, plains Indians, and Maasai people, among others, have all historically lived -- and thrived -- on diets low in carbohydrates for countless generations prior to contact with Western Europeans. I think that qualifies as "natural."
    and there isn't medical support behind it

    Fun fact: prior to 1980, the medical community did not believe that blood sugar could be controlled at all, and did not believe that, even if it could, it was necessary to controlling the progression of Diabetes.

    There is actually about 150 years of medical support behind low carb diets, if you know where to look. There are books and papers dating back to at least the mid to late 1800s of people like Dr. James Salisbury, who have sent various disorders into remission through the use of very low (and even zero) carbohydrate diets. The ketogenic diet has been studied for nearly a century for its neurological benefits.

    Contemporary general doctors don't support it largely because they don't stay current with research and run off of what they were taught in med school, which is also largely behind the times. The medical industry has a ton of inertia when it comes to changing their minds on how things are (with keto, for example, they still go off of the studies that used the old method of inducing ketosis, which has been largely abandoned for superior methods that don't require starving and dehydrating the patients). It's also a highly competitive industry, leading to heavy crab mentality, which results in the character (and career) assassination of those who speak too loudly against the party lines. You'll actually find a lot more medical support of it in the specialist arenas, particularly among endocrinologists.
    and I wish people would stop pushing it as a cure because it isn't.

    Hippocrates saw centuries ago that food is, in fact, the cure. While not everyone may benefit (or benefit fully) from a properly implemented low carb diet, many, many people are. Just like anything else, they're going to share their successes and encourage others to try it, because it just might work. You (general "you") don't know until you give it a try, though.

    For many of us, particularly the subset of us here with insulin resistance, it very much is a cure, and has saved us from the mental and emotional toll that comes with starving ourselves and exercising to death for very little (if any) progress.
    Foods with carbohydrates also have a lot of vitamins you need. Taking them as a supplement just isn't the same.

    You don't need supplements to get the vitamins and minerals you need. However, you don't need "foods with carbohydrates," either (unless you're defining that so loosely that even liver falls into that category, but I'm going to assume you mean the same as most people when they say that -- starchy foods like grains and potatoes, and sugary foods like fruit). Also, going low carb does not mean going low vegetable. In fact, most people report eating more vegetables (and more variety of vegetables) after going low carb than they did before.

    Technically speaking, you don't need plant material at all to get all of the nutrients you need. When it comes to superfoods, liver actually blows away all of the others out of the water on nearly every metric. The vitamins and minerals aren't bound up in insoluble fiber or phytates, either, come with a dose of fat built in (required for vitamins A, D, E, and K), and are generally in the bioactive forms (K2 vs K1, vitamin A vs beta carotene, etc), making them more bioavailable than most of their plant-based counterparts.

    If you want to include vegetables, that's perfectly fine, too (low carb, generally speaking, isn't about no vegetables, remember). Non-starchy vegetables are fine sources of vitamins and minerals, as well as phytonutrients, antioxidants, and fiber, without the starch or sugar hit that grains, starchy vegetables, and fruits have.

    All the nutrition, none of the major blood sugar/insulin hit.

    Then, there's also the matter that for many people, eating some of these types of foods actively hinder nutrient absorption and even actively make them sick. For example, I was chronically anemic, despite consuming upwards of 400% the RDA for iron, until I cut grains out of my diet. Turns out that grains have phytates in them that block iron absorption and it was enough to make me anemic. Likewise, I know a number of people with salicylate sensitivity which means that eating nearly any plant material (because all plants make salicylates) makes them sick and malnourished. Both of these issues are generally considered "idiopathic" (aka - "we don't know why it happens, it just does"), and so the cause of the issue, and the path to the cure is, in fact, the food.

    If you feel better on a comparable diet containing more carbohydrates and it's working for you, then great! Seriously, that's awesome and I encourage you to share your success story. However, please do not make vague claims to low carb being "unnatural," "super unhealthy," or vitamin deficient. If that is your opinion, please back it up with more detail on why you believe that, otherwise there's no way to tell whether it was your implementation that needed tweaking or if it's the way of eating itself.
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