KETOGENICGURL wrote: »

The FB Ketogenic dieters have a VERY strict interpretation..and are not open to even using terms "incorrectly" on their site. Ive posted abut my run in due to MY understanding that ketogentic nutrition is NOT high protein..but with these people it IS..and they use grams only, as in 110 gr protein to 65 fat, low carb is the only comparison I recognized. no mention of LCHF, no use of % of macros..ever.

but it may work for YOUGER dieters… who can tolerate so much protein..and are moving more..I had to drop out as my age, metabolic issues, kidney disease don't allow an older female to follow their plan at all.

( I WAS surprised at how adamant they are about the high protein..which goes against EVERY BOOK/Article/talk, etc I have seen/read since learning about Keto. oh well. the published commercial articles that call Keto high protein must mean them.

Sounds like an irritating group. That would only raise my cortisol, pass.

Keto is great initially but everyone plateaus eventually. I would suggest cutting fat in half or so while upping protein 1-2 days a week (doing keto 5-6 days/week). Gluconeogenesis is a very slow process, it shouldn't knock you out of keto by upping protein 1-2 days; you could also do MCTs as fat sources on these days as well.

m_puppy wrote: »

V_Keto_V wrote: »

Keto is great initially but everyone plateaus eventually. I would suggest cutting fat in half or so while upping protein 1-2 days a week (doing keto 5-6 days/week). Gluconeogenesis is a very slow process, it shouldn't knock you out of keto by upping protein 1-2 days; you could also do MCTs as fat sources on these days as well.

Why do you suggest this? I'm considering lowering my fat intake extensively, upping veggies and protein for one month then coming back to the typical keto diet. I would do this for no other reason than a reset of some variety without kicking myself out of ketosis.

Being pulsatile (not completely adapting to 1 diet and becoming refractory) while not having to completely overhaul a diet a once. You can still be consistent following a cyclical/weekly approach similar to doing 5:2 IF. 2 days/week "inconsistent" then 5 days/week consistent/normal diet. Basically for ease of compliance.

It's nowhere near the insanity of cyclical keto where carbs vary based on day of week and/or workout regimen.

Also, try weighing your food if you dont already. Its very easy to underestimate portion sizes and with a high fat diet its easy to eat far more calories than you realize since a slight miscalculation can mean being off by 1-200 cals (or more) at each meal. Also, dont eat back exercise cals if you normally do. Burn estimates are just that...estimates...and are usually far too generous..

Kimmygirl40 wrote: »

They have charts according to your height... in percentage wise, yes, fat always needs to be higher, but we focus more on the grams. I weigh 265lbs i was told to eat 120g protein, 75g fat and 20g carbs. Why give your body more fat when you are trying to lose? I changed to this woe and NEVER got hungry as i had 3x meals of 40g protein each and the weight just fell off. I dont have all the answers as i just joined the group and this is only my second week, but if you want to know more, follow KETOGENIC DIETERS on facebook and there will be admins who will be all too glad to help you on the correct path. It worked for me and I too struggled with losing weight :-)

That groups charts would push me out of ketosis because of high protein. But that's a personal metabolism thing. I operate better on higher fat.

The product helps people get in to ketosis. It's a very beneficial addition to someone trying to use a Keto diet. I'm here to share what's possible not hurt anyone. Sorry yo!

My recommendation would be to "upgrade" to water fasting.

I hope this helps,
Dan the Man from Michigan
Keto / Water Fasting / E.A.S.Y. Exercise Program
103 pounds down, 21 to go.

Dear FEMA, I feel your pain and frustration, lady. I started the Fed Up Challenge in May 2015. The weight that was supposed to fly off my waist barely budged, and just as the weight loss pace was picking up, it stalled for 3-4 weeks. I then began keto about five weeks ago. Each day, I aim for 125g fat, 75g protein, and less than 20g carbohydrates per day (I usually average 5-10g net carbs per day). I also do this with intermittent fasting. I usually eat my first meal of the day at noon, I stop eating about 4-6 p.m., and I don't break my fast again until about noon the following day. While I have not been seeing rapid results, I have been experiencing steady, dependable results over these past several weeks, which is really encouraging. I took strict notes on my weight during my period; I ended up gaining a little over 3 pounds, and about 4 days into my period, my weight dropped back down and then some. Reading everybody's responses to your situation is a necessary reminder that everybody's body functions on its own terms. I wonder if maybe your plateau is a combination of too few calories (since you're so active!) and the fact that you're starting to get very close to your goal weight. Also, how would you feel about researching intermittent fasting to see if it will kickstart your metabolism? I'm not saying this is a one size fits all solution. It's been pretty successful for me, and it's helped me to further control food craving and appetite in addition to the keto diet. Also, I think you're heading in the right direction by eliminating diet sodas. See how your body responds to that change.

Wishing you luck and many congratulations on your progress thus far. That's awesome