ljcox7210 wrote: »

Okay maybe this is far too scary then, I can't eat cheese and call it a diet, I want to be thin but I don't want to get there eating loads of fat, makes me feel nauseous!

Sorry if I wasted anyone's time.

You didn't waste anyone's time!! That's what we're here for! Everyone is routing for your success and wishes you the best. But with everyone's combined experience, as well as the written info you can find in the launch pad, it is difficult to do low carb successfully without increased fat. There's tons of info in the launch pad and like @daylitemag said, read, read, read. Absolutely ask questions here, but be prepared for the answers as well. If you decide to give it a try, perhaps folks could give you tips on how to get past not wanting/liking the fat. I've never had that experience, but I'm sure others have often and could offer advice.

it's all about finding what works for you, but with everyone here, hopefully finding what works will happen a little faster.

ljcox7210 wrote: »

Couchpotato39 wrote: »

Cheese!

Cheese is horrendously calorific and fattening, I'm trying to get lean not put on 20lbs Haha!

Yeah it is - and for that reason I've been trying to cut down he much I eat for years. However, for the last 2 months I've been eating more than ever, but mostly hard cheese with zero carbs, also switched to high fat no sugar yogurt.

I've lost over 20 pounds doing that and my digestion is better than its been in years - your results may vary.

I've heard good things about coconut oil.

If you truly research this woe, it is the simplest, most delicious food, that leads most to not be hungry (at all) between meals. Many are able to reduce their day to just two meals. The health benefits are far too great for me not to continue this woe forever! Congratulations on your weight loss success, but if you're hungry between meals, feel like you're starving, obsessing about the next thing you get to eat (this was me trying low fat diets), you should give it a try for a couple of months and see if it's for you. Those issues disappear with this woe! Wishing you the best of luck!

@gsp90x, I am seeing muscles now, and I don't workout! I'm amazed at what I am seeing! MY FAT IS BUILDING MY MUSCLES! How great is that!!

@ljcox7210 , remember that you don't have to go from eating a typical amount of carbs to eating a very low carb diet all at once, or ever. You could cut 50 grams of carbs out of your diet, and replace those calories with fat (that would be about 20-25 grams of fat). Or you could do what I did, which was to cut back to about 100 grams of carbs a day, and have more fat. (I felt great at 100 grams of carbs a day, and now I'm experimenting with staying under 50).

You've come a long way: congratulations!

ljcox7210 wrote: »

Wow there's a lot to process! Thank you everyone for the advice! I'll have a proper read up and see if I can get my head round it! Again thank you everyone for sticking at me! I've already lost 100lbs and that's probably the reason I'm scared of fat, I'm scared of going back!

LCHF diets tend to have the most success at long term weight reduction and maintenance because it's pretty easy to be compliant when your blood sugar isn't spiking and falling with every meal making you run for the fridge every 4 hours. People tend to simply and naturally eat less food overall this way.
It's my opinion that it's the best chance for long term health and weight management

My calories are between 1500 and 1850 each day. I eat eggs, fish, meat for breakfast and lunch sometimes with homemade mayonnaise. I reserve my leafy veg for my evening (main) meal. I cook the meat and fish in olive oil, have tried coconut oil but only like it with chicken.
With all dairy out, I cannot see how to include more fat.

I have been overweight my entire adult life. I have tried every diet there is. I always ended up gaining all the weight back because it was not sustainable. I felt deprived. I hate low fat dressing. I hate low fat anything. I've been eating this way for 10 months now, and I can see myself eating this way for the rest of my life. I'm not hungry between meals. Instead of food being a reward, comfort or pleasure for me, now it's just something I have to do a couple times a day. I'm not constantly thinking about the next meal. I'm not snacking during the day. I've lost 83 pounds. My health has improved immensely. I'm now running daily instead of crashing on the couch after work. I spring out of bed in the mornings instead of hitting snooze until the entire household is ready to kill me. The list goes on and on.
It does take a while to wrap you mind around this WOE. It goes against everything we have been taught about food, but as they say the proof is in the pudding, or in this case the cheese....lol

KnitOrMiss wrote: »

Ghee is non-dairy.

Ghee is actually dairy. It is clarified butter. Many people who have a dairy intolerance can eat Ghee (which lacks the protein casein and the sugar lactose), but it is still dairy - so anyone who is dairy intolerant should proceed with caution.

ljcox7210 wrote: »

Okay maybe this is far too scary then, I can't eat cheese and call it a diet, I want to be thin but I don't want to get there eating loads of fat, makes me feel nauseous!

Sorry if I wasted anyone's time.

I'm no terribly fond of fats. I find meat fat disgusting - although I can manage crispy bacon. I have a hard time getting past the texture. Many fats also trigger cravings for me, so when I am trying to control my urges I like to omit fats. But - I don't have other good options, since I have been diagnosed with diabetes. Carbs are out & I have to substitute the calories I'm cutting out of my diet when the carbs go with something - either protein or fats. Eating a high protein diet, with diabetes, is not terribly smart, either. So that leaves fat.

I have lost significant quantities of weight (up to 65 lbs), and maintained the loss for years, on low fat diets (CICO, or moderation of consumption) My body is happier with (non-sweet) carbs than without, and happier without sugar and fats - so previously I have always cut out sugars and fats, and kept carbs in. But it is no longer an option, and I am figuring out what fats I can include without triggering cravings.

But - as to your concern about weight loss while eating fats - I have lost 14+ lbs in 5 weeks eating an average of 85 grams of fat a day (around 60% of my diet). My CICO/eat in moderation pattern of loss: Typically I lose for 3-4 days in a row, then plateau (and go up and down within the 3-4 day range of what I have just lost) for 5-10 days, then lose for 3-4 days again, then plateau, etc.

Once I consistently hit around 30 net carbs (about a week and a half ago), I had daily losses with the exception of 2 days. That is a longer extended stretch than I am used to with the scale going down every day. I was sick (likely keto "flu" a week and a half ago, and dropped 1.6 lbs. I debated logging it, since I figured it was just that not eating much for a day meant there wasn't as much food hanging around waiting to be used - and expected it to pop back up the next day. Instead, it kept dropping and has not (more than a week later) jumped up above that low. The decreases: -1.6, -.2, -.6, +.2, -.2, -0.0, -.4 On any of my prior weight losses (non-fatty), this would be more typical: -1.6, +1.7, -.2, +.1, -.3, +.2, -.6, -.2, etc. - taking several days to wiggle around and settle, before dropping the next notch.

Is it the low carb? Forcing my body to change its combustion system? I don't know - but (aside from cravings for which I apparently have odd triggers), it isn't any harder than any other change in eating style I've adopted.